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Ft. Campbell, KY schools removing books, billboards, etc. about slavery, Civil Rights Movement, Black History, etc.

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This also includes books about transgender issues (which is another kettle of fish); regardless where you stand on that, removing books about the Civil Rights movement is DISGUSTING. They are also having to take down billboards that discuss Black History Month or Civil Rights leaders (including Dr. King).

I know this isn't going to be a resounding post and alot of people will disagree. Removing American history at ANY level (including Civil War, etc.) is WRONG.

I'm sad today. This is wrong.
 
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What kind of moron equates history with DEI? Only the ones who are seeking to conflate them, for obvious reasons.

“At Fort Campbell, administrators and librarians are interpreting the guidance to apply to anything that deals with diversity, inclusion or equity, and anything that could be perceived to promote one group over another or make one group look bad, the source said. That would include any books that mention slavery, the civil rights movement or the treatment of Native Americans.”
 
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That’s the point of all this. Learning about civil rights and past atrocities such as Jim Crow and slavery will hurt certain students’ parents’ feelings, so we’re white washing everything and pretending it didn’t happen, so when it happens again no one will be like “how could we let this happen?”

I still remember being horrified when learning about the Civil Rights Movement in grade school in the mid 80s and that wound was still pretty fresh then but it was taught as if were 300 years ago. I never understood why people who looked like me were such assholes to other people based on skin color. I understand now.

The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth, Latino Heritage Month, Asian Heritage Month. I’m sure Columbus Day and President’s Day are still OK. (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...k-day-black-history-month-other-celebrations/)

Some of us desperately wanted this. Others did not. We will see how it goes.
 
MegaBlue05 said:
The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth, Latino Heritage Month, Asian Heritage Month. I’m sure Columbus Day and President’s Day are still OK. (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...k-day-black-history-month-other-celebrations/)
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“It also noted a pause on “special observances” hosted throughout the year. While Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth were included, the memo said the change would not affect those national holidays.“
 
JumperJack said:
“It also noted a pause on “special observances” hosted throughout the year. While Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth were included, the memo said the change would not affect those national holidays.“
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Yes. They still get the day off, but can’t host or promote a symposium to discuss the Civil Rights era or hang posters celebrating Dr. King because …..?????

Can you help explain how these new initiatives are helpful in any way or why this is such a top priority of the current administration who promised to prioritize lowering prices and reigning in inflation?

I feel like we have much bigger fish to fry as a country than this performative 50s era nonsense that will likely be reversed one day by someone else.

Seems silly to me, but I am just a random dude in rural Kentucky who feels like I live on a different planet than 3 out of every 4 of my neighbors. Lol.
 
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“It also noted a pause on “special observances” hosted throughout the year. While Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth were included, the memo said the change would not affect those national holidays.“
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"Teacher, why do we have the day off tomorrow?"
"Sorry, Jimmy, I can't talk to you about that."

Wild shit. Wild.
 
MegaBlue05 said:
That’s the point of all this. Learning about civil rights and past atrocities such as Jim Crow and slavery will hurt certain students’ parents’ feelings, so we’re white washing everything and pretending it didn’t happen, so when it happens again no one will be like “how could we let this happen?”

I still remember being horrified when learning about the Civil Rights Movement in grade school in the mid 80s and that wound was still pretty fresh then but it was taught as if were 300 years ago. I never understood why people who looked like me were such assholes to other people based on skin color. I understand now.

The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth, Latino Heritage Month, Asian Heritage Month. I’m sure Columbus Day and President’s Day are still OK. (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...k-day-black-history-month-other-celebrations/)

Some of us desperately wanted this. Others did not. We will see how it goes.
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It's crazy that in a country that espouses "Freedom and Justice" for all that you are no longer free to learn about Civil RIghts, slavery, Dr. King, etc in an American school.

And to be clear, I'm not angry at Ft. Campbell Schools or their administration- they are having to comply due to their status within the Department of Defense. I am very angry at the US government for pushing this. And DURING Black History Month. What an insanely loud dog whistle.
 
The current tribe in power will scream bloody murder when the other tribe takes power and reverses all that’s been done.

That’s just one of the reasons the Executive Order has gotten out of hand. These issues were meant to be decided by congress not one person.
 
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MegaBlue05 said:
Yes. They still get the day off, but can’t host or promote a symposium to discuss the Civil Rights era or hang posters celebrating Dr. King because …..?????

Can you help explain how these new initiatives are helpful in any way or why this is such a top priority of the current administration who promised to prioritize lowering prices and reigning in inflation?

I feel like we have much bigger fish to fry as a country than this performative 50s era nonsense that will likely be reversed one day by someone else.

Seems silly to me, but I am just a random dude in rural Kentucky who feels like I live on a different planet than 3 out of every 4 of my neighbors. Lol.
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It's all good man. I've been accused of being a libtard several times this week, just for asking if things like renaming bodies of water are a priority. For the record, I've been an independent for nearly 20 years. Used to be a Republican, only one in my family I might add. So, I've pretty conservative on several issues. Just don't put up with political theater well, and that what a LOT of this is right now.
 
Feel like Fort Campbell is going the extreme response here imo. But at the same time I do t really give a shit and this is the exact type of nonsense that everyone pays attention to and focuses on instead of important issues that actually effect the people of this country.
 
Ron Mehico said:
Feel like Fort Campbell is going the extreme response here imo. But at the same time I do t really give a shit and this is the exact type of nonsense that everyone pays attention to and focuses on instead of important issues that actually effect the people of this country.
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Like renaming bodies of water while grocery prices skyrocket? The problem is the current administration is making a lot of noise about small things. And I'm not sure exactly why.
 
bbncal02 said:
Like renaming bodies of water while grocery prices skyrocket? The problem is the current administration is making a lot of noise about small things. And I'm not sure exactly why.
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I mean I’m not super into politics but it’s seemed to me they’ve uncovered hundreds of billions of fraud from US taxpayers and are securing the border which should hopefully help in the long run with the inflation that’s been going on the last 5 years post COVID
 
MegaBlue05 said:
Can you help explain how these new initiatives are helpful in any way or why this is such a top priority of the current administration who promised to prioritize lowering prices and reigning in inflation?
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Because DEI is inherently racist. You’ve been in a cave if you don’t know why.

Like the deal with the Tuskegee Airmen, this amounts to malicious compliance (which was immediately corrected by Hegseth himself).

Imagine being a college educated adult and believing that in order to talk about MLK, slavery, or civil rights, you also have to be able to say that white people are inherently racist and oppressive. But that’s exactly what is happening here, whether you grasp it or not.

And just to be clear: this new administration promised multiple things in addition to addressing inflation. Please don’t pretend that eliminating the racism of DEI is not one of those things.
 
bbncal02 said:
Like renaming bodies of water while grocery prices skyrocket? The problem is the current administration is making a lot of noise about small things. And I'm not sure exactly why.
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They are doing unprecedented work in addressing government waste which is the #1 contributor to inflation.
 
bbncal02 said:
It's all good man. I've been accused of being a libtard several times this week, just for asking if things like renaming bodies of water are a priority. For the record, I've been an independent for nearly 20 years. Used to be a Republican, only one in my family I might add. So, I've pretty conservative on several issues. Just don't put up with political theater well, and that what a LOT of this is right now.
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I get it. I am a libtard in Kentucky and a card carrying conservative in California. I am also currently a member of no party (not much for us to do in primary season though n Kentucky) and am formerly a member of both parties. Neither truly represents me and both repulse me in different ways.

I agree that real issues that affect every day working people are much more important than red meat political theater that’s so prevalent on both sides of the aisle today.
 
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They are doing unprecedented work in addressing government waste which is the #1 contributor to inflation.
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Yet inflation was going down, and now it's going up. And the US government is going to give 400M to Tesla for Cybertrucks. But sure, no waste their nor conflict of interest.
 
MegaBlue05 said:
I get it. I am a libtard in Kentucky and a card carrying conservative in California. I am also currently a member of no party (not much for us to do in primary season though n Kentucky) and am formerly a member of both parties. Neither truly represents me and both repulse me in different ways.

I agree that real issues that affect every day working people are much more important than red meat political theater that’s so prevalent on both sides of the aisle today.
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Nice to be GBI (God Blessed Independent). I'm beholden to NO man that's for sure.
 
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Yet inflation was going down, and now it's going up. And the US government is going to give 400M to Tesla for Cybertrucks. But sure, no waste their nor conflict of interest.
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You seem really independent 🙄 so I would say let’s see how inflation looks 4 years from now instead of 2 weeks into a presidency which is a little ridiculous to judge anything on. Just my take though.
 
JumperJack said:
Because DEI is inherently racist. You’ve been in a cave if you don’t know why.

Like the deal with the Tuskegee Airmen, this amounts to malicious compliance (which was immediately corrected by Hegseth himself).

Imagine being a college educated adult and believing that in order to talk about MLK, slavery, or civil rights, you also have to be able to say that white people are inherently racist and oppressive. But that’s exactly what is happening here, whether you grasp it or not.

And just to be clear: this new administration promised multiple things in addition to addressing inflation. Please don’t pretend that eliminating the racism of DEI is not one of those things.
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I have several friends that are teachers in public school. A couple of them history teachers. They don't teach that the Civil Rights Movement is somehow related to white people being racist in today's world. But you'd be naive to think that wasn't the case in the 60's.
And incidents like Emmet Till and the kidnapping of Civil Rights workers are proof of very systemic racism in the South. Now, of course, racism will never truly die as long as human exist, and we are in a MUCH better place today than 60 years ago. But to sit and agree with the removal of billboards discussing Dr. King and books that talk about slavery is naive. It's no different than removing statues. ANY erasure or censure of American history is morally WRONG.
 
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Ron Mehico said:
Feel like Fort Campbell is going the extreme response here imo. But at the same time I do t really give a shit and this is the exact type of nonsense that everyone pays attention to and focuses on instead of important issues that actually effect the people of this country.
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There is actually a name for it: malicious compliance. The Air Force tried that by claiming they would no longer be able to teach about the Tuskegee airmen. Until the new secdef told them to knock it off.
 
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JumperJack said:
Imagine being a college educated adult and believing that in order to talk about MLK, slavery, or civil rights, you also have to be able to say that white people are inherently racist and oppressive. But that’s exactly what is happening here, whether you grasp it or not.
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College educated and was taught about slavery, MLK, and civil rights without being told that white people are inherently racist and oppressive.

If that’s what’s happening in today’s classrooms than this response is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It’s both a lazy and irresponsible fix while smelling very opportunistic.
 
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