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Finally watched last 12 mins of Wisc game last night

Let's turn the page guys, you can't change what has happened. At least we are hanging another Final 4 banner.

We have a really nice team this coming year, and our backcourt is going to be phenomenal. I can't wait for the new season to start, it's just around the corner.
 
Who decides who is in the game? If the twins were NOT doing what he wanted, then they needed to sit. Call a timeout, get on the same page or sit. That loss is al on Cal,as he is the one that makes the decisions.

Cal did pull Andrew for a short spurt after he refused to get the ball the Karl. He also took the blame for the loss. Maybe you missed both of those events? Also, if Cal pulled both the twins, you're suggesting he put in Booker and Ulis despite the fact they were getting owned defensively?

If that's not what you're suggesting, what would you have done differently?
 
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So far, I haven't had the heart to rewatch the game but I probably will when Basketball season nears.
 
If you're gonna blame Cal for the loss, you need to blame him for 38 straight wins in 1 season, too.
 
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Thanks coach, I hope your therapist helped you in your thearputic recovery. Next thing you should work on is spelling. I watched the whole season and never saw a guy named Townes on this team.
 
Whoever you want to blame, whether or not you want to move on, it's probably the second biggest defining moment/game of Cal's tenure so far.

It it ended today (thankfully it doesn't) the championship season and the missed perfect season are what would stick out most.
 
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What is your mission? Bitch and moan about Cal as much as possible?

I have no mission, I'm just reminding you of what this coach's stated #1 goal is. It's his goal, not mine or I assume any UK's fans #1 goal. Don't get pissed at me for the reminder of HIS words.
 
I have no mission, I'm just reminding you of what this coach's stated #1 goal is. It's his goal, not mine or I assume any UK's fans #1 goal. Don't get pissed at me for the reminder of HIS words.
Gee, everyone stand and thank Mrchump for constantly reminding BBN that the UK basketball coach made a comment that getting 8 players drafted was the season goal.
Damn him. Damn him and his lofty goals and wanting player success to lead to a title.
Damn him, for not saying what YOU want to hear.
Again Thanks, everyone had totally forgotten about that. You should be praised and set on mountain top. Damn that coach.....
 
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Ive said it over and over on here that I feel like Cal gets tight in big games as the favorite. I am very thankful for the title and final fours accumulated in Cal's tenure and any "critical analysis" shouldn't come across as being unappreciative. I think the most difficult thing in the wake of the loss is seeing our top draft picks "Towns, Lyles, WCS" really already excelling at the next level. I understand that Wisconsin had good players too, as did Duke, but when you look at the depth of talent it leaves a bad feeling at the fact that we let one slip away against Wisconsin. People think 92' Duke loss was the most painful. To me while that loss hurt tremendously, you at least knew that our kids were ready and performed above expectations (Duke was unreal and we went toe-to-toe). The Wisconsin loss saw several lapses that quite frankly were inexcusable. Ill never forgive the 3 shot clock violations and how anyone can try and deflect in regard to that is ridiculous.

I totally understand Cal's strategy in staying with the twins as others have pointed out. Hell those kids are winners and gamers, I would have stuck with them as well. If you pull them and we lose everyone would have been saying "why would he pull the twins who have been there before etc". So I totally understand that move (not to mention the help it gave us defensively). But the excuses on here of "well Andrew didn't do what Cal wanted him to with getting the ball into the post". Thats why you call a freaking timeout and make damn sure he understands what you want him to do even if you have to go Bobby Knight on him. Can't take the timeouts with you, and you sure as hell can't get 38-0 back. Flat out bad.
 
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Called a timeout at least and make sure everyone was on the same page as far as execution.

Cal called a timeout at the 2:25 mark, exactly 51 seconds after an official TV timeout. At the 2:25 mark the game was tied 60-60 and Wisconsin had just scored 4 unanswered points.

That doesn't count as calling a timeout to "make sure everyone was on the same page?"

Really???
 
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Thats why you call a freaking timeout and make damn sure he understands what you want him to do even if you have to go Bobby Knight on him. Can't take the timeouts with you, and you sure as hell can't get 38-0 back. Flat out bad.

Again, there was a full TV timeout at the 3:16 mark, followed by a UK timeout at the 2:25 mark. I'm not sure what you're even talking about. You guys are revisionist historians.
 
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Again, there was a full TV timeout at the 3:16 mark, followed by a UK timeout at the 2:25 mark. I'm not sure what you're even talking about. You guys are revisionist historians.


Yeah guess you're right man. Cal coached the perfect game. He didn't make a mistake and quite frankly he never makes mistakes.
 
Whoever you want to blame, whether or not you want to move on, it's probably the second biggest defining moment/game of Cal's tenure so far.

It it ended today (thankfully it doesn't) the championship season and the missed perfect season are what would stick out most.


No matter what, when it does end... the Guy-AFTER-Cal is going to have a tough act to follow.

Yes, it would be that much more awesome if there was another NC, and there's always room for constructive criticism and honest debate... but make no mistake, we are having a helluva run right now. I think we're going to have a great season in 2015-2016, and I expect there'll be some other good ones after that.

I hope Cal stays at least 10 more years, and during that time another bona fide "perfect fit" rises to the top. Frankly, It's hard for me to imagine anyone other than Coach Cal at the helm.
 
Yeah guess you're right man. Cal coached the perfect game. He didn't make a mistake and quite frankly he never makes mistakes.

That's not what I'm implying at all. Cal gets some of the blame, so does the team. I think it's only logical to spread the blame across the board because it was a team effort and a team loss. I'm not sure why some of you are dead set on blaming one side or the other with absolute resolve.
 
I hope Cal stays at least 10 more years, and during that time another bona fide "perfect fit" rises to the top. Frankly, It's hard for me to imagine anyone other than Coach Cal at the helm.

Cal's personality is literally a needle in the haystack if we're looking to replicate or remotely match his charisma. That said, I don't think we'll ever find a spokesman like Cal ever again, but that's okay. Pitino did just fine as a narcissistic walking contradiction. I think someone like Shaka could potentially succeed here. Fun system and likeable personality and seems to enjoy working.

Worse thing in the world Cal could do is win a 2nd and 3rd title before bolting. That would put a world of pressure on the next guy to tie UCLA, and I doubt the process would come easily.
 
It was a fun season. If you focus on one game then that's on you. Undefeated regular season with beatdowns of KU and and UCLA.

Also we're hanging a banner.

Some are glass half empty people and that's ok. They were raised that way.
 
I'd much rather be 22-17 with a banner. I mean, this is Kentucky. We don't need more wins. We need more banners. Love Cal but let's not pretend here.
I want a title with everyone else. More times than not we don't get one. However, I also like having historical seasons and we did that last season.
 
I'm glad some of you hand wringers and worry warts weren't around back when we played Georgetown and lost after comfortably controlling the game in the first half. It was vastly more traumatic than the Wisconsin game. With all the hysterics now, there would have been massive loss of life back then.

I guess if you just gotta have someone to blame then blame whoever makes you feel good inside. Trash some young kids, a coach that has done a stellar job or whatever else just gets you happy.

If you want to blame the one actually at fault, blame Wisconsin. They were better than us that day. Cal didn't throw the game to get the Harrisons drafted. Cal didn't throw the game cause he forgot Ulis was on the bench. The Harrison's didn't throw the game cause . . . oh, this discussion is just as stupid now as it was months ago.

Its Wisconsin's fault. They beat our ass that one time. Damn shame, but it's really, really, REALLY hard to not lose, ever. Try it sometime. You'll see.
 
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I'm glad some of you hand wringers and worry warts weren't around back when we played Georgetown and lost after comfortably controlling the game in the first half. It was vastly more traumatic than the Wisconsin game. With all the hysterics now, there would have been massive loss of life back then.

I guess if you just gotta have someone to blame then blame whoever makes you feel good inside. Trash some young kids, a coach that has done a stellar job or whatever else just gets you happy.

If you want to blame the one actually at fault, blame Wisconsin. They were better than us that day. Cal didn't throw the game to get the Harrisons drafted. Cal didn't throw the game cause he forgot Ulis was on the bench. The Harrison's didn't throw the game cause . . . oh, this discussion is just as stupid now as it was months ago.

Its Wisconsin's fault. They beat our ass that one time. Damn shame, but it's really, really, REALLY hard to not lose, ever. Try it sometime. You'll see.

Cool story
 
This thread needs some of this:

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Why would we watch that game again? I've seen the Sweet 16 and Final Four wins over Louisville at least five times apiece. I've seen the first WVU game, the two UConn games, and the Wisconsin game once each, and hell I turned every one of them off before they finished. I went to bed thinking we lost to UConn by four in 2011. We lost, so I turn those pages and move on.
 
I'm glad some of you hand wringers and worry warts weren't around back when we played Georgetown and lost after comfortably controlling the game in the first half. It was vastly more traumatic than the Wisconsin game. With all the hysterics now, there would have been massive loss of life back then.

If you want to blame the one actually at fault, blame Wisconsin. Its Wisconsin's fault. They beat our ass that one time. Damn shame, but it's really, really, REALLY hard to not lose, ever. Try it sometime. You'll see.

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Perfect game to use the zone especially when Ulis was in the game. The zone would have neutralize their interior play and drives to the basket.
 
That's one criticism of Cal that I think is legit. The zone isn't some fluky defense only to be used in emergencies. If he would embrace it as a necessary tool against the best offensive teams we'll face it would help him immensely in late March, IMHO.
 
Maybe you should watch it again because your first point isn't necessarily accurate. During the infamous stretch run when UK had three shot-clock violations (really two shot clock violations, one of which came after two full-clock possessions that led to multiple offensive rebounds and three total possession shots), you will see that two of those possessions were dictated - and ultimately negated - as the result of Andrew and Aaron refusing to get the ball down low. On one possession, Aaron refused to throw the ball into Towns who, isolated on the low block, had worked ferociously and successfully for position (at that point, a good 11 seconds left on the shot clock). Aaron instead threw the ball back out to Andrew, which led to his disastrous 1-4 isolation that Cal was forced to call as the shot clock wound down.

The other possession saw Andrew take the ball to the right wing, look down at Towns, and unfathomably decide not the make the entry. This resulted in another episode of Cal flaying his arms into the air while cursing Andrew and a Tyler Ulis cameo with Andrew relegated briefly to the bench.

So for all the talk about Cal's failures in the game, one would be well-served to re-watch the game as I did. I found that some of my initial memories were in fact wrong, and that I too had bought into a group think myth that really didn't depict the realities of who should shoulder the majority of the responsibility.

This is exactly what happened. I love the twins, and they were clutch. But man they blew that game by not feeding KAT in the post on those possessions.
 
Ah, so you found a way to avoid the truth and ease your pain. Just curious, was it at the expense of the coach or the kids? Maybe you went all in and just trashed everybody. Don't worry, be happy.
Uhh. Sarcasm
 
I'm glad some of you hand wringers and worry warts weren't around back when we played Georgetown and lost after comfortably controlling the game in the first half. It was vastly more traumatic than the Wisconsin game. With all the hysterics now, there would have been massive loss of life back then.

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Man... the Georgetown game in 1984... should be called the $h*t Happens Game.

I felt really good about the Cats getting that NC Banner, even more certain than I was about this year... and then whatever-happened-in-that-game happened. I guess that always gave me some perspective, whenever it came to the NCAAT.
 
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