Skal seems to be playing well in the NBA and is a multi millionaire. What has to stop is our fans bitching nonstop
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Skal seems to be playing well in the NBA and is a multi millionaire. What has to stop is our fans bitching nonstop
No offense, but where are you getting your information? How do you know whether Cal's going to play Hump next year, or not. I hadn't heard that Bamba had committed yet either. How do you know that Richards is better than Hump? I don't think he is, at least offensively.
Yikes. Don't think I'd ever seen it laid out like that before. Good post.
Just talking about 2nd round or undrafted. They were both in the the first round
Sure he can - just say "dude, you're just not ready". Be honest rather than meekly supportive. Maybe Cal is and these kids just go anyway. Who knows, but man this is kinda silly. Fox and Monk, yes, understandable. Even Bam is understandable. But there is no one else on this current roster that should even consider anything but coming back to UK (or transferring if that's their thing).
Only thing I can think is that Hump has gotten interest from pro teams in Australia. Otherwise, no reason for him to go anywhere.
I said it wrong! I watched an interview where he said, HIS MOTHER, SISTER'S, AND HIS FATHER WERE REALLY IMPRESSED BY COACH K, AND dUKe, Which is to me, just like (EVERYONE WHO HAS HIM PLAYING AT UK IS BY WHAT THEY UNDERSTAND IN HIS COMMENT'S) ! I happen to believe he will play for dUKe! It's just an opinion, like where I HAVE READ FOR DAY'S HE IS PLAYING FOR UK! NOT TRUE AS OF THE LAST FEW HOUR'S! I HOPE he does play for the CAT'S? The last time I looked, he is undecided.....
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I remember getting blasted on here for saying Cal should quit talking about the GD one and done so much. It has created a monster, and some of you that are now whining obviously just don't get it. You all want your cake and you want to eat it too.
I really like Hump but him leaving wouldn't exactly be the end of the world.
It's a rebuild season of sorts next year. It was pretty obvious from the start. Cal said as early as October last year that he expected to lose 8-9 players. This is no shock to him.
Next year we start five new players with at least two new guys with key roles off the bench.
Expect them to take their lumps early and then make a S16 run.
Two or three will go pro and four or five will return. Add three or four stud Freshmen with SO/JR role players and have a shot at a
title again in 18-19.
I think our roster will be:
G Green/Alexander
G Diallo/?(Baker, Smith, Johnson?)
F Washington/Vanderbilt
F Bamba/Killeya-Jones
F Richards/Wynyard
Bamba is a must, though. Got to get him. Johnson to me is a big get as well. We need a proven shooter. He probably starts if he is here.
Gabriel isn't likely back. He needs to get paid.
Next year we start five new players with at least two new guys with key roles off the bench.
Expect them to take their lumps early and then make a S16 run.
Two or three will go pro and four or five will return. Add three or four stud Freshmen with SO/JR role players and have a shot at a
title again in 18-19.
I think our roster will be:
G Green/Alexander
G Diallo/?(Baker, Smith, Johnson?)
F Washington/Vanderbilt
F Bamba/Killeya-Jones
F Richards/Wynyard
Bamba is a must, though. Got to get him. Johnson to me is a big get as well. We need a proven shooter. He probably starts if he is here.
Gabriel isn't likely back. He needs to get paid.
nope....kid isnt going to play next year. 2 points and 2 rebounds....you think we were losing a star the way people are up in arms.
Don't kid yourself. He's a good player and would have gotten even better next year.
Well, if Hump can get $$ to play ball, more power to him. Perhaps he's not driven for the NBA.
Don't forget Gabriel and SKJ now know the expectations and they just need to get stronger to get the bigger minutes. Bam and/or Knox would make us beyond deep up front.
Confident we'll conrptend again next year without any more departures.
Don't forget Gabriel and SKJ now know the expectations and they just need to get stronger to get the bigger minutes. Bam and/or Knox would make us beyond deep up front.
Confident we'll conrptend again next year without any more departures.
There's nothing wrong with a "rebuilding" season every once in a while -- as long as you are actually building something. But every single freshman on that list - with the exception of MAYBE Alexander -- sees himself as a one and done. So what is being rebuilt?
We are what we are at this point. This is no longer about one-and-done for the best of the best. It's about getting on and off campus as quickly as possible, no matter the on-court performance. If you stay more than one year, it's disappointing. If you stay more than two, a flat out failure. To some fans that's great; to others it's awful. For me, it's simply reality; I can either quit caring about the team I've followed passionately since 1984, or just accept it for what it is, because it's not changing anytime soon. But I won't be naive enough to think we are ever rebuilding. We're just passing time until we do it all again the next year.
dont kid yourself....he averaged 2 points and 2 rebounds this year when we needed another big to step up. he failed. he could TRIPLE his production next year and it still wouldnt amount to much.
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We know you like stars whether they can play or not. To say Hump didn't step up is nonsense. He was never given a chance to step up. A minute here are there and then out at the first mistake.
I think we get Bamba but if not and Hump leaves we'll be woeful at the 5.
Tai will get a lot of
Minutes in that case. Richards will get in foul trouble for sure.
he didnt get minutes because he would get 2 fouls in the 2 minutes he was in. he was given every chance...he just isnt good. i know he hit like 2 jumps shot and as a result people think he is awesome as a result...but he isnt a big loss if he leaves.
First off I wish ALL of the marginal 1 and done players would stay longer at UK.
But having a better chance at the end of the year in the NCAA improves with the talent level the coach can bring in on each team. It's unrealistic in the "1 and done" era to expect elite players to stay for multiple years for the fans and all of the complaining about the revolving door of players each and every year gets old.
Any UK fan in their right mind would have loved to have traded the yearly W/L records, tournament success and the players that Call has brought in in the last 8-years to the previous 8; anyone who says otherwise is not being truthful.
Some 8-year comparisons:
2009-2017: W/L 249-53/ .825, SEC W/L 111-27/ .804.
2001-2009: W/L 191-77/ .713, SEC W/L 90-37/ .709.
But having a better chance at the end of the year in the NCAA improves with the talent level the coach can bring in on each team. It's unrealistic in the "1 and done" era to expect elite players to stay for multiple years for the fans and all of the complaining about the revolving door of players each and every year gets old.
Any UK fan in their right mind would have loved to have traded the yearly W/L records, tournament success and the players that Call has brought in in the last 8-years to the previous 8; anyone who says otherwise is not being truthful.
Some 8-year comparisons:
2009-2017: W/L 249-53/ .825, SEC W/L 111-27/ .804.
2001-2009: W/L 191-77/ .713, SEC W/L 90-37/ .709.
I loved his intensity on the court. Think with some time on the court and the coach allowing him to do what he does best I think he can find some pt with an nba team. Moved well on the court for a 7 footer and showed a nice touch from the outside.
This is my issue. He's doing Briscoe a disservice if he's not pleading with him to come back or transfer. Cal says once the seasons over its all about the kids. If he's not doing everything he can to help these kids make the right decision then he can't make that claim.
It was the same with Lamb, Teauge, Goodwin, Orton, Johnson, Aaron Harrison.
If Aaron Harrison and Dakari Johnson come back they're the focal point of the offense and raise their stock substantially.
Same with Lamb and Teague. Those guys could have had a season similar to Murray and Ulis.
If Cal is just saying "you should come back" and then a "welp I did my best" that's kind of bull crap.
If you're saying they just weren't good enough to ever do it on the college level, sure. I don't know that. But Aaron Harrison would no doubt have been the best 2 guard on the roster and Dakari would have been a low post presence we were sorely missing. Both guys would have at least gotten a chance to prove that they were first round worthy that they didn't get in their first 2 seasons because we had so many other mouths to feed.
We are due for some guys to stay.
2012 had a couple guys stay who were expected to leave.
2015 had several stay that were expected to leave.
So I expect a couple of dudes to stick around for 2019. Alexander, probably one of Vanderbilt/Washington, SKJ, Wynyard, and a guard (whoever Cal signs this Spring- Smith, Baker, Johnson?).
Add in a 2-4 studs from the '18 class (a great class top to bottom they say) and we chase 9 again.
UK also puts a better percentage per player in the league. We have way more pros than those teams combined. Plus how many of those undrafted have gotten contracts.
Especially for him. He can go somewhere and get meaningful minutes and could do it making money too.
I don't get the argument that Orton didn't make the right decision. He pulled one of the great take the money and run moves ever. There is no likely scenario where he comes out further ahead.
Yes it would.
We've won 8 in 114 years of basketball. Horrible program by your lofty standards Titles1. Nice handle, troll.
He makes more
No one and done rule means none of those players ever play college ball.
Well said. The downside of Cal's recruiting marketing pitch (ie. "UK is the fastest path to the money!!") has been that it disproportionally attracts players who have no true interest in being college basketball players, and choose UK only because it's reputed to be the quickest way out. And when you're disproportionally attracting players with that mindset, its only logical that you'll see more players leaving who probably shouldn't go, in addition to the ones who should.
Briscoe plainly never wanted to be here more than one season. He desperately tried to leave last year and only reluctantly came back on the last day before the deadline because it'd become clear he had no chance of being drafted. So his mindset is that his first year was a failiure because he didn't get to leave, so staying again would only mean double failure.
And I'd bet Humphries has a similar mindset. He's from Australia, so you know he didn't grow up with any dreams of NCAA glory. Instead he likely chose UK because of Cal's reputation for quickly getting players where they want to be professionally. So if he now sees that pro opportunity in his home country, why not jump on it?
