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didn't see team pay any price and confidence has to do with one's self not the competition
UK paid the price on Tuesday when he missed two of the easiest shots a player is likely to get in a game. If it is only a confidence matter, he needs to ride the pine until he gains enough confidence to compete. If he didn't come with all the hype, you wouldn't be advocating for him staying on the court. Hype doesn't score points to assist in getting wins. The board has trashed players who have been way more productive than Edwards.
 
I get what your saying burger but come on its a bit worrisome when your supposed lotto pick cant get double digits v Stoneface.
All of the forwards do idnt do much offesively primarily becquse they were zoned all game. I think he just needs to find his niche on this team
 
UK paid the price on Tuesday when he missed two of the easiest shots a player is likely to get in a game. If it is only a confidence matter, he needs to ride the pine until he gains enough confidence to compete.
You dont get confidence riding the pine
 
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UK paid the price on Tuesday when he missed two of the easiest shots a player is likely to get in a game. If it is only a confidence matter, he needs to ride the pine until he gains enough confidence to compete.
he was not the only one who blew opportunities but I prefer to look to the positives instead of living off of the negatives
 
You dont get confidence riding the pine
You don't get victories by playing players who are not ready to play. He was supposed to come with confidence. These players hang around only one season, so we don't have time to wait for them to get confidence especially when there are others who already have confidence and can play.

You should be laughing at yourself because you have nothing of substance to bring to this discussion.
 
he was not the only one who blew opportunities but I prefer to look to the positives instead of living off of the negatives
Unfortunately, he hasn't displayed any positive to look at. He is nearly at the bottom in production. This isn't why he was recruited and signed or why he is probably making nearly a 1 million in NIL money.
 
UK paid the price on Tuesday when he missed two of the easiest shots a player is likely to get in a game. If it is only a confidence matter, he needs to ride the pine until he gains enough confidence to compete. If he didn't come with all the hype, you wouldn't be advocating for him staying on the court. Hype doesn't score points to assist in getting wins. The board has trashed players who have been way more productive than Edwards.
Alot of people missed easy shots and had costly turnovers that game.
 
Alot of people missed easy shots and had costly turnovers that game.
A lot of people didn't miss easy shots. There were some who missed easy shots but nothing like the ones Edwards missed. The ones who did missed not so easy shots also made some difficult shots. If you are ok with KY losing while Edwards and Wagner get their confidence, that is your choice. I would like to see them both get fewer minutes until their play justifies more minutes.
 
Half of you are acting like he's playing like Khalil Whitney. He hasn't dropped 20 points but he's looked fine against all the teams except for Kansas. Lets let him get feet under him, get a role and get comfortable. He'll hit some 3's soon and make a bigger impact overall.
GREAT post. I was actually coming to post this.

We've seen so many freshman come in and be absolutely terrible. We've had McDonald's All-Americans that couldn't play defense or score. Guys couldn't even get on the floor their freshman season.

We've also seen guys start out slow and improve a lot over the course of the season.
He's averaging 9 and 5, and people are acting like he's giving us absolutely nothing. While it's nice to think he's gonna be the best version of himself from the jump--most freshman aren't. I think he'll show a lot of improvement as the season goes on and he figures out how to translate his game to college.
 
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The scouting reports were all over the place for him.
Mostly I was thinking about the way posters imagine they can evaluate talent and predict the arc of a player's career from a tiny subset of performances. I've referenced it before but Joe B said that players don't really reach their playing potential before the 2nd semester of their sophomore years. Physical and emotional maturity factor prominently in that. But everyone's a Carnac. The seer of seers. The prognosticator of prognosticators.
 
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It has been four games, but it isn't like these kids came from local off the radar high schools. These kids have been groomed for years to handle the stage they are now playing on. It is nothing but a bunch of hollow excuses to suggest that two players who look very average just needs a little time to shake their jitters. If it is jitters they are dealing with, they should spend more time on the bench until they get their jitters under control. Kentucky is about the team and not just about a couple of players. This isn't an NBA farm team whose primary purpose is to develop NBA players.
Saying its jitters is fine, saying they are bad and lazy are 4 games isn’t. Edwards is a good player having to adjust right now, he will be fine so will Wagner
 
They are both literally averaging between 9.3 to 9.5 a game so far. They don't have far to go.

Reed and Dilly are averaging 13.3 and 16.8 so far, more than we expected. It works out ok so far.
I meant like 14 or 15 points, Reed and dilly aren’t gonna be on every game, but right now minus the Kansas game their production is fine
 
I get what your saying burger but come on its a bit worrisome when your supposed lotto pick cant get double digits v Stoneface.
How are you still allowed to post here?

You're like the junkie, former convict uncle of the message board.
 
Not all these guys come alive right away. And SF is a hard position to get going. PGs have the ball in their hands and bigs can grab rebounds. But SFs and wings go through a bigger transition.

It also doesn't help when the guys we thought would be reserves... Dilly and Shep.. are showing out big time.

Give it time.
that's true, but the 2 highest rated kids coming in have struggled mightily & been severly out played by Dilly & Shep
 
How are you still allowed to post here?

You're like the junkie, former convict uncle of the message board.
why because he says the truth?
why is it so strange to expect your highest rated recruit to show something against a team that just started playing division 1 basketball?
I don't think he is lazy, but he is a little soft. How many times has he had his shot blocked this year excluding Kansas? How many careless turnovers has he had? He was supposed to be a stud coming in and thus far he has not proven it.
 
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You don't get victories by playing players who are not ready to play. He was supposed to come with confidence. These players hang around only one season, so we don't have time wait for them to get confidence especially when there are others who already have confidence and can play.
A frosh at hame 4.
A lot of people didn't miss easy shots. There were some who missed easy shots but nothing like the ones Edwards missed. The ones who did missed not so easy shots also made some difficult shots. If you are ok with KY losing while Edwards and Wagner get their confidence, that is your choice. I would like to see them both get fewer minutes until their play justifies more minutes.
Im no t ok with the Cats losing but down the rankings road we will need both of this guys. You seemed to have already given up on them. No one individual lost the game but Reeves going 3/17 on 3s particularly towards the end of the didnt help.
 
why because he says the truth?
why is it so strange to expect your highest rated recruit to show something against a team that just started playing division 1 basketball?
I dno't think he is lazy, but he is a little soft. How many times has he had his shot blocked this year excluding Kansas? How many careless turnovers has he had? He was supposed to be a stud coming in and thus far he has not proven it.
Outside of Leadbelly, he's the biggest troll on the board and has been for years. It's startling that you haven't taken this reality into account.
 
8, 3, 9, 4, 8 - Towns’ first 5 games at UK
13, 4, 6, 10, 6 - SGA’s first 5 games at UK
7, 8, 8, 16 - Aaron Harrison’s first four games at UK his second year!
12, 6, 7, 12, 5 - WCS’ first five games his Junior year!

Some guys struggle at times. People on here seem too dumb to realize that.
 
It’s been 4 games, I’m not making any overall big picture assumptions on a player 4 games into his college career. Edwards will be fine and find a groove eventually, Kentucky needs him along with Wagner to be good
We need them to be good but will they- we have played 1 really good team and some cupcakes and IMO, they both should have showed more by now
 
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A frosh at hame 4.

Im no t ok with the Cats losing but down the rankings road we will need both of this guys. You seemed to have already given up on them. No one individual lost the game but Reeves going 3/17 on 3s particularly towards the end of the didnt help.
I agree with you that we need them, but we need them to produce. I believe that players get playing time the old fashion way; they earn it with their play and not by their number of stars. If you didn't know about his number of stars, I doubt that you would advocating for his unearned playing time.
 
Saying its jitters is fine, saying they are bad and lazy are 4 games isn’t. Edwards is a good player having to adjust right now, he will be fine so will Wagner
They won't be fine because someone says they will be. They will be fine because they demonstrate on the court that they are worthy of all the hype. Until then, next man up!
 
Was never high on his film. Don't think he does anything well. Not athletic, can't really shoot, average ball handling skills, and doesn't really finish at the rim. Some of these talent scouts must smoke crack.
Yes we’ve had much more than 4 games to watch him - was on numerous times in High School as well as all star games
I’m not surprised by Sheppard and Dillingham being our best Frosh - it was all on tape to see
 
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They won't be fine because someone says they will be. They will be fine because they demonstrate on the court that they are worthy of all the hype. Until then, next man up!
If either one of them can get 14 points a game and be solid then that’s really good, and I think they will be fine because they have time
 
If either one of them can get 14 points a game and be solid then that’s really good, and I think they will be fine because they have time
I hope you are right because Cal will keep sending DJ out there no matter how poorly he plays.
 
We need them to be good but will they- we have played 1 really good team and some cupcakes and IMO, they both should have showed more by now
It’s been 4 games. They certainly should have played better against Kansas, that was a disappointing but other than that they are going to have ups and downs like most freshman
 
It’s been 4 games. They certainly should have played better against Kansas, that was a disappointing but other than that they are going to have ups and downs like most freshman
After playing so poorly against KU, I thought they would have used an inferior opponent to show that the KU game was a fluke. They failed!
 
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Mostly I was thinking about the way posters imagine they can evaluate talent and predict the arc of a player's career from a tiny subset of performances. I've referenced it before but Joe B said that players don't really reach their playing potential before the 2nd semester of their sophomore years. Physical and emotional maturity factor prominently in that. But everyone's a Carnac. The seer of seers. The prognosticator of prognosticators.
This is a sports message board. You are going to be greatly disappointed with bar you’ve set, lol.
 
I agree with you that we need them, but we need them to produce. I believe that players get playing time the old fashion way; they earn it with their play and not by their number of stars. If you didn't know about his number of stars, I doubt that you would advocating for his unearned playing time.
No sir, Im not a star kind of guy. But he has skills and potential we will need down the road
 
Most notably left out were Knight, Lamb, Jones, and Miller.
Knox? Keldon Johnson? James Young?

I just think you get to a point where you can start arguing that Archie was as good as some guys.

Like of the ones you listed, I would say Knight was for sure better in his one year here. Jones was better over 2 years for sure.

I wouldn’t spend much time arguing that Lamb or Miller were better. If you’re going with those guys, might as well add in Teague.

Anyway, main point is he wasn’t close to top 10. Top 20 you can start to argue, imo.
 
Curious - since we know he'll only be here one season no matter what he does on the court, how long are we willing to say "he'll be fine"? 10 games? That's a third of the season. 20 games? SEC Tournament? I'm very curious. I've seen a LOT of things from him that are not something you just change overnight. I think it's Poythress all over again, but others will disagree and that's fine.
 
Outside of Leadbelly, he's the biggest troll on the board and has been for years. It's startling that you haven't taken this reality into account.
Troll
You are a joke
Just because I don't kiss your heroes butt, you can't accept it. Been following uk since the runts,how about you. These guys are now paid pros. They are paid to perform.
 
A lot of people didn't miss easy shots. There were some who missed easy shots but nothing like the ones Edwards missed. The ones who did missed not so easy shots also made some difficult shots. If you are ok with KY losing while Edwards and Wagner get their confidence, that is your choice. I would like to see them both get fewer minutes until their play justifies more minutes.
Careful, you will be called a troll because you don't agree with all of the ccc butt kisses, like I was
 
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