Duke's recruiting Insider Edition: Kevin Knox
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Exactly ! No matter rankings, you come here you have every oppertunity to get it right in front of NBA scouts.
Newman as like a Soph in high school was thought to be ours. We backed off him though and it obivoulsy was a good move.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are many recruits who have no interest in playing with Grayson Allen. That kid is the definition of punk, and we've all seen it first hand, again and again. Yet, it's painfully clear that he's a teacher's pet for Coach K. (because they're cut from the same cloth) So, Allen will run that team next season. That's what he wanted this season, but there were more talented players surrounding him. So, now that the elite players are gone, it's Allen's show. If I'm an elite recruit, especially if I'm a guard, I'm avoiding that whole scene.
Yep, the most shocking thing to me about Knox is that ZERO experts had him coming to UK. It wasn't a 60/40 Duke lean or even an 80/20 Duke lean. The last crystal ball I saw before he committed was 83% Duke and 17% North Carolina. Kentucky wasn't even in the conversation.
I think it's hilarious! It just shows that sometimes these "experts" are doing the exact same thing I do- GUESS
The thing I'd love to find out from these recruiting gurus is this: is your prediction on "player A" based on actual evidence of some kind or is it just based on a hunch or following a wave of other experts?
From what I can see from following the Knox recruitment, that's all they had. One guy would guess and another guy would follow along. Then, suddenly, everyone started saying the same thing. Knox never gave any real clues. He spoke well of every school on his list. He seemed to like all the coaches and all the programs. He never stated he was more interested in one over the other. So, they filled in the blanks.
If we're honest, aside from actual statements from players or possibly close relatives, this whole recruiting thing is a crap shoot. They don't know. The same is true for Bamba right now. He's been a Kentucky lean and then a Texas lean, but none of this is based on his own words. It's a hunch and a guess. That's it.
No I was saying for really old folks it may need to have an alternate meaning. We all hopefully get there but thanks for the name calling.You MAY have been calling me really old. It stands; Chump.....
That is why I wouldn't be surprised if he picks Michigan lol
BKO I thought Jarret Allen also out of Texas was a better prospect. We become involved and Bolden climbs out of the twenties as a prospect into the lower teens. Duke signs him late and all the sudden he's rated in the top 10. ...LOL I watched young Mr Bolden a couple of games and he couldn't even set a legal screen without movement and he was not receiving the ball in the DUKE offense unless he snagged a rebound. As a Freshman not the player I expected!
I've noticed that happens quite a bit with certain players (ok, players who play for certain teams)
Bolden blows. Been saying that forever. What's funny is that several of us UK fans were telling all the Dukies about the shortcomings of their "super team" last year and every single aspect came to fruition. Every.single.one. ![[thumb2]](https://ct.yimg.com/mr/uploads/891/1684387.png "Thumbs Up 2 [thumb2]")
I can count on two fingers the amount of times Kentucky has got over on Duke while under Coach Cal.
It was about damn time Cal burned DUKE really good on a recruit or on the basketball court. The Ulis/Murray win in 2015 and beating them for Knox this year is about all the positive news we've gotten versus Duke imo.
35% of Cal's paycheck is to make sure Duke doesn't get the players needed to win championships imo! That's job #2 right behind winning the championships for UK.
#dukemustdie
The day a team named Duke matches us with 8 titles is the day a coach gets fired no matter who it is.
It was about damn time Cal burned DUKE really good on a recruit or on the basketball court. The Ulis/Murray win in 2015 and beating them for Knox this year is about all the positive news we've gotten versus Duke imo.
35% of Cal's paycheck is to make sure Duke doesn't get the players needed to win championships imo! That's job #2 right behind winning the championships for UK.
#dukemustdie
The day a team named Duke matches us with 8 titles is the day a coach gets fired no matter who it is.
Disagree. We beat them out for multiple recruits just this year alone. We also got Wall in 2009. I wish K would grow a pair and schedule us for a yearly game. I firmly believe that the contrast in styles and the players Cal brings in would be detrimental to Duke in matchups with us. Our guards are almost always more athletic and quicker. Our frontline is almost always bigger and more athletic. K likes to play small ball. Duke likes to play the passing lanes. That would open up the lob for us. Just like in 2015-2016, we beat them off the dribble and threw the lob all game long. We also killed them in transition. I just think we would be a terrible matchup for them every single year if we were to play them. The only year Duke had a better team was 2012-2013, since Cal arrived. I really think K is too chicken shit to play us. Always has been, IMO.
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Bolden blows. Been saying that forever. What's funny is that several of us UK fans were telling all the Dukies about the shortcomings of their "super team" last year and every single aspect came to fruition. Every.single.one.
Yep. No PG, check. Too many wanting shots, check. Potential for bad team chemistry, check.
I don't think it indicates anything the longer he takes. Just a guess, but my opinion is that he likes Cal and Smart a lot and doesn't want to let down either one of them. Just putting it off as long as he can, IMO.
Yessir. Bingo.
Edit: throw in the fact that Bolden was overrated and their guards couldn't guard a phone booth and I think the punchlist would be complete.
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Who has Duke beaten us for? Kennard, Bolden, and? We showed early interest on Giles but he was Duke so early that I'm not sure that recruitment really played out.
We gave them Amile Jefferson and took Terrence Jones instead. They wanted Quade Green. They wanted Jamal Murray. They wanted Wall. They're after Bamba. They wanted Knox.
But we really don't go after the same kids very often. Usually both coaches seem to gear their targets away from the targets of the other and we divide up the top 10 or so with 2-3 each.
We gave them Amile Jefferson and took Terrence Jones instead. They wanted Quade Green. They wanted Jamal Murray. They wanted Wall. They're after Bamba. They wanted Knox.
But we really don't go after the same kids very often. Usually both coaches seem to gear their targets away from the targets of the other and we divide up the top 10 or so with 2-3 each.
I really can't see any way Bamba goes anywhere but UK seeing as how all his buddies are already here. If he wants a shot at a national title, he'll come here. Don't see him winning one at Michigan or Texas and from everything I've read, Duke is basically out of the picture.
This × 1,000,000. Man, @GonzoCat90 you're one of the best posters on this board.
Thanks. With 20-something thousand posts, a few are bound to be good. Maybe.
Chad let's call Duke what they are. That's a team that's gonna have 5-7 burger boys and all Americans.
Total underachievement if they don't win it all.
team chemistry ended up being worse than I thought it would, to be honest
Trent is a burger boy and all American. How many does K need?
Ruining college basketball and underachieving. They should win two titles this year.
We recruited Okafor,Trent, Giles, Tatum, Bolden and Carter. Cal surely would have taken all of them if they wanted UK. Boldent really is the only one that came down to the end though, the others were dook all the way.
With Bamba though his best friend is Green and he is also friends with Knox and Diallo . I know he knows Coleman at UT but Green and him are like brothers as they have said as much.
Niether he nor duval have ever impressed me a ton . Carter is a beast though when he stays in the paint . He hangs around the 3 pt line way too often though.
I disagree. The Devil is in the details. With Knox other than limitless playing time there was no real draw at Duke in fact playing the 4 nomatter how you label it is not what he wanted. Here is my point a player was mentioned with. Knox (monk) a player has been mentioned with Bamba (Davis) both guys have stated in interviews that it was important to them. All these guys are buddies. Cal dropped his pg target and found out who these guys wanted that was Green. Neither guy talks their camps don't talk UK doesn't talk. Oh but he likes coach smart. Oh he can step in for Alan he wants to be looked at as an Anthony Davis not a player he is already better than. But come on y'all have all been 18 have you ever chose an adult not your parent over your boys? And he likes Cal to so he gets best of all of it at UK. If it is a 2 team race then and Bamba is the kinda kid we all know he is intellectually then this is one of the easiest calls ever
Duvall has the same kinda of game as someone like Selby. What are you a 1 or a 2? Certainly not a natural PG and have great athleticism and what not but not a shooter either. Im interested to see just how good he really is.
Duke is all set for one more year of give the ball to Gayson and get out of the way !! He will be pushed for everything from player of the year (just like last year) to comeback player of the year, to top pick in the draft by Jay (Duke) Bilas.
But in the long run, only one of those four really panned out as expected--Kennard. Newman has yet to prove anything other than he couldn't find a classroom without an escort.
I think I understood most of that Dablueman. (Punctuation is your friend, by the way.) But yes, I hear what you're saying. Let me see if I can summarize it. There were some clues given by Knox, but those clues may not be obvious to all. You think Knox saw Monk and then heard Calipari say that he could be the next Monk, and that was a big selling point. You also think Knox made it clear he wanted to work with Green, which prompted Calipari to go after Quade more than others. The only problem I have with that is I had never seen any connection between Knox and Green. I have heard about a connection between Bamba and Green, though, and I've also heard about a strong tie between Bamba and Knox. Anyway, I still think it's mostly a crap shoot, especially in these days when recruits are waiting as long as possible to sign. So, I still say, unless we hear something directly from the recruit, a parent, or perhaps a high school or AAU coach, everyone is mostly guessing. I do think UK is the favorite for Bamba right now, with Green and Knox both already in the fold, with UK being a legit contender next season, and with Calipari's proven record. But hey, you know what I'm doing? I'm guessing.
There is a picture on KSR of five of our guys are at a table at some McD's game event. Knox, Green, JV, Washington and Richards. Too bad Bamba wasn't in the picture.
Not all of us have time in there schedules to focus on the punctuation and grammar and I am also confident enough in myself and my own intellect not to be offended when someone else points it out. If you had trouble understanding because of it my apologies
