Don't let Harris fool you the decision has been made for days
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I for one do not wish him success or failure. Don't expect to come back to KY as a conquering hero, not ever . I'll take all the Tim Couches and Elams and any KY boy who chooses KY over the likes of Alabama, USC, Notre Dame etc, etc, etc. I don't buy this garbage about not making it to the pros when you play for programs who must be in the hunt for a NC every year. Lesser programs may not have as many but if your good enough you don't need a name school. Anyone ever hear of Jerry Rice? Also I don't like jerking our team and fans around like this. I know many do it but it's classless.
1. I agree iwth this take. It would have been great to have Harris but that is one position we're solid and young at.
2. I know this won't go over well...but our offensive style isn't really all that condusive to Harris. I'd still want him, but running out of shotgun, no FB, a fair % of read option, etc...RB like Boom is more needed that a bigger kid like Harris. If I'm UK, I'm beating the bushes for guys like JoJo/Boom moreso than Harris/Horton.
3. I'd be more crushed if this was Elam vs. Harris boing to Bama. DL like Elam are what seperates UK from most of SEC...not RB. Or a bigtime WR would have been a blow given the style of offense w'ere running. A guy like Parker is a game changer in this offense, not a RB that we're not showcasing.
As I have said in other posts, I can understand him choosing Alabama, as much as I don't like it. At first glance, I also didn't like the fact that he said he has known since the Iron Bowl.
I haven't read this entire thread, but something just came to mind. Isn't it possible he drug this out and didn't let Coach Stoops know in deference to his mother? I didn't see it when he announced, but most are saying that she looked fairly upset. Maybe she was pushing him to give it more time so that he could be sure or even hoping he might have a change of heart before he announced (or even told Coach Stoops). She may have not wanted him to completely shut the door.
Of course I have no way of knowing this............just a thought.
I haven't read this entire thread, but something just came to mind. Isn't it possible he drug this out and didn't let Coach Stoops know in deference to his mother? I didn't see it when he announced, but most are saying that she looked fairly upset. Maybe she was pushing him to give it more time so that he could be sure or even hoping he might have a change of heart before he announced (or even told Coach Stoops). She may have not wanted him to completely shut the door.
Of course I have no way of knowing this............just a thought.
I'll be really fair and civil and hopefully you'll extend the same courtesy to me. I'm not trying to jump your ass at all but c'mon man. We got kicked in the gut today. Kicked in the nuts too. He strung UK along unfairly IMO but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and wish him well and certainly don't blame Alabama. But when he leads us to believe he may very well sign with us and we've been trying to become relevant in football for so long it was a bad day for a bunch of decent UK football fans that have been loyal for longer than most. We didn't come looking for you, you came right to our board and twisted the knife a little further when it was already rammed in pretty deep. Why don't you enjoy your new player and have a great day but leave us alone ? Not trying to be a jerk- but this really isn't a good time to spar with us. Do you get where I'm coming from ?
ASBamaguy if you were a diehard 'Bama basketball fan you would probably know how UK fans feel about losing your top instate talent. We got Cousins and Bledsoe from your home state, At that time we really needed them, but most years if we miss on one 5 star recruit we have others lined up to take their place. Same with you in football. If you hadn't gotten Harris you wouldn't have been too disappointed because you have a whole stable of top tier backs and 1 or more of them may turn out to be better than Harris. Just like 'Bama in basketball, we don't have the luxury of missing out on that type of talent because whoever we sign instead probably won't be nearly as good.
Wow if this is true then Harris is a pos. Not only would he screw us with himself but he will cost us any shot we could have had with other running backs. He could have been telling Stoops the whole time he was coming or whatever the reason it's understandable why UK didn't recruit other backs. Harris is sorry as hell if he made up his mind in November and then strung us and the coaches along the whole time. He will be one of the most hated opposing players now IMO.
Gonzo, dude sthu. UK fans are pissed and we have LEGIT reason to be. People need to vent so go play mommy or daddy somewhere else.
Gonzo, dude sthu. UK fans are pissed and we have LEGIT reason to be. People need to vent so go play mommy or daddy somewhere else.
I feel the same way Jack. Ever since Steve Doran went to Bama I have pulled for them when they aren't playing the Cats! Go many friends who are Bama fans. In recruiting you win some lose some, but you don't quit!
I'm sorry we didn't get Harris.
I'm also sorry he didn't have the discretion to be careful about what he said today. He had the opportunity to ride off into the sunset and be supported by most of his home state, even though he chose to play somewhere else. But, that's not the case now because of statements he didn't need or have to make. That's too bad, and that's on him.
Also, have we ever seen a more blatant, and clear example of the loser-in-mommy's-basement than today? The degree of pitiful it takes for an Alabama fan to run to a UK message board right after this announcement is amazing.
Go Cats!
I'm also sorry he didn't have the discretion to be careful about what he said today. He had the opportunity to ride off into the sunset and be supported by most of his home state, even though he chose to play somewhere else. But, that's not the case now because of statements he didn't need or have to make. That's too bad, and that's on him.
Also, have we ever seen a more blatant, and clear example of the loser-in-mommy's-basement than today? The degree of pitiful it takes for an Alabama fan to run to a UK message board right after this announcement is amazing.
Go Cats!
some people are comfortable with that, with just taking up the shoes of others who have established a path, the idea of blazing a trail frightens them, they want the safety of going to the factory and picking up the same tools that have been there for decades
takes a special brave soul to strike out where noone has been there before. We've already been lucky enough to get A BUNCH of them the last 2 classes....Hatcher, Elam, Barker, Boom. One today was not brave or strong enough for our path. That's fine, we will find one who is to fill the spot he turned down.
It just strikes me as a VERY childish, selfish and underhanded move since he said he has known for a month. His, putting the announcement off for a month, has hurt our chances with other RBs and put the staff in a horrible situation. Its almost like he intentionally tried to hurt Stoops and UK. This is what bothers me!!!
Yeah, the more this is analyzed the more we see that Harris played the UK staff and being Kentucky football, it has to be swallowed. The greatest irony is that in the same week that UK makes Marrow one of the highest paid recruiters, we lose an in state potentially all world running back that we invested the world in, that my friends is American irony.
You have a LEGIT reason to be pissed off at a teenager you know nothing about based on some possible biased hypotheticals a bunch of spurned fans created this afternoon? That's a LEGIT reason to be pissed?
Do you all really think every other recruit decides moments before he goes to the podium? How many stories do you have to read where players admit they know almost all along where they're going but give other programs the chance to recruit them to be sure and weigh all their options? Do you think guys who are going to commit on NSD still haven't made up their minds and will just flip a coin?
That's how this works. If you think it's Damien Harris' fault we didn't recruit another RB while Ohio State and Bama both brought in highly ranked ones this season, you're delusional.
Just be honest: we all wanted Harris to be a Cat, we felt for a long time like he would be, and it hurts to watch the best player the state has produced in 20 years go be a part of the machine for an SEC rival when we thought we had him. You don't have to project derogatory traits or make up scenarios about what he was thinking or doing.
He set his announcement date a long time ago and committed on that date. It wouldn't have made much sense to just go ahead and tell everyone a month in advance or to not give Kentucky and Ohio State a chance to make their final sales pitch and see if they can change your mind. No one is stringing anyone along, they're just keeping their decision private so they can have their moment.
If people can't handle that, don't follow recruiting. No one was mad these last several months when they thought Harris was a lock to UK but was just waiting to commit, but now that it's not us, everyone thinks he shouldn't have waited. Are we stringing along the recruits who are waiting and hoping for a UK offer while we go after our higher-rated targets? Or is the loyalty and consideration only something that applies to the teenagers?
Gonzo trying wayyyyyyyy too hard...
Why is Bama guy being such a passive aggressive twit? You're killing your rep on this board, bamafan.
Why is Bama guy being such a passive aggressive twit? You're killing your rep on this board, bamafan.
I'm trying to figure out where this went wrong, UK till death. Go back and read my first two posts in the thread. Pretty reasonable stuff, really, and then the mouth breathers jumped my ass.
And where am I being passive aggressive? If I were gloating or celebrating I could understand the vitriol. I'm not. Apparently my mere presence is the problem.
This post was edited on 1/9 7:19 PM by ASBamaguy
And where am I being passive aggressive? If I were gloating or celebrating I could understand the vitriol. I'm not. Apparently my mere presence is the problem.
This post was edited on 1/9 7:19 PM by ASBamaguy
Yeah and if he didn't live in KY they would have never been on the list. Every player any where always keeps the home state school on there. Boo hoo, you'll never get those couple of months back in your life. That asshole he led all those buckeye fans on too, how dare he. It hurts we didn't get him, but to act like he sat down and planned out how to job UK...that's more than LOL.
Nothing went wrong. We just don't want to go back and forth with a die hard Alabama fan. You won. Good for you. Why won't you leave a fan base alone that has no desire to talk with you. You've got an agenda so stop playing dumb about it.
You are an Alabama fan; we are Kentucky fans; this is a Kentucky board, and our team which we support lost out on a recruit who committed to the team in which YOU support. Ergo, don't be surprised to see people be less than welcoming. If the Bama' board wasn't premium (and I've been to tidefans.com; no LSU fans are allowed, and I have not seen an Auburn fan there), I'm quite sure that you guys would have been less than welcoming to Auburn fans after the "kick-six". No one is mad at H****s for picking Alabama; many of us feel that he played Kentucky and their fans, and therefore, many of us are unhappy. To you Alabama fans, recruits don't matter; five-star recruits like H****s are a dime a dozen for Alabama. No, none of us are personally affected by this; I think anyone with common sense knows this; however, this is a SPORTS message board for KENTUCKY fans. I see you on here very seldomly (I see an Alabama fan with "91" in his name, although I have seen you post here some (not sure why, as Kentucky isn't a team which Alabama plays but once every five years, and is not a rival). The reason you decided to come to the KENTUCKY board on this particular day is fairly obvious to everyone; it is not some coincidence. On other teams' boards, you would have been banned a long time ago. Honestly, yes, you are being rational, but in a sort of manner that screams "douche". I doubt that you would walk into a room full of Kentucky fans and jumped in this conversation (and said some of the things which you posted). You are welcome 364/365 days a year, unfortunately, your intuition should have told you that this was 1/365 (you do not post here regularly enough for us not to question your motive when coming here, regardless of how "reasonable" or "rational" your first post was).
*Why are there Kentucky fans who like UK basketball but root for Bama' in football. It makes no sense to me unless you attended both universities. I went to UK, went to Stetson (yes, I am a Hatter!!!), and EKU. I root for those three teams only. I guess that there is the bandwagon aspect, I suppose. Alabama has a nice campus, and I respect their program, but I still hate Alabama (I hate everyone in the SEC except for Texas A&M, which, I don't root for, nor, do I hate).
I have never seen your name here before today. Not one single time.
I hardly believe that is a coincidence, and if you try to make anybody think otherwise, you're beyond ignorant.
People have made it abundantly clear that your presence is a problem. If you want to post your opinion, there are several other free forums for many teams throughout the SEC.
SECRant is a pretty popular one, try there. Fact is, you're a Bammer, and if you think a Bammer would be welcome on the Kentucky football forum shortly after a big in-state recruit spurned us for your school, you're either very oblivious, or very stupid.
I started off thinking you were possibly an okay person and NOT an ass hole. I also thought Damien Harris may come to UK. Turns out I whiffed on both of those. Well keep on posting and show all of us just how big of an ass you really are.
i wish him the best, but it really does bother me he told people he made up his mind that long ago. Everyone is different, me, I'd would have stayed home and played for friends and family. Regardless of Alabama, talent goes to the NFL. Saban, he just gets the talent. Best of luck to ya kid. Would have loved watching you rise with Stoops. Breaks our hearts, but you did what you thought was best for you. Now, you are Bama! We are BBN!
I don't mind other fans posting on here at all as it gives us an outsiders point of view and most other sec fans are usually civil. Most UL fans are ass hats and can't converse without degrading comments.
Bama dude usually we UK posters here are very corgial but you caught us in a very bad day while losing our biggest in state recruit we have had in many years or ever to your school all the while he recieved the staff and state.
Made his mom cry which really bothered me.
Bama dude usually we UK posters here are very corgial but you caught us in a very bad day while losing our biggest in state recruit we have had in many years or ever to your school all the while he recieved the staff and state.
Made his mom cry which really bothered me.
I am not going to give you any "attaboys" anyway, nor is anyone else, since you have zero impact on the program; you just merely root for them (which is why I never say "we", when referring to Kentucky, although I attended the University; did you attend Alabama or at least grow up in Alabama?). I have never understood the logic behind congratulating a person whose favorite team won a big game, when they had zero impact on the outcome. Why would you offer your opinion on a Kentucky board on this particular day? Again, I bet that you don't "offer your opinion" if we were all in a room in direct contact with one another, but I guess it's easy to "offer my opinion" behind a keyboard. Again, you do not post here regularly enough for us to not be suspicious of your motives; maybe I'm wrong, but I find the timing of your appearance to be quite odd. We're not as dumb or irrational as you might believe. From a personal standpoint, I'm quite sure that many of us DGAF what Damien does, but the fan in us is pissed, and this is a Kentucky message board where we can be irrational.
This post was edited on 1/9 7:46 PM by lakercat
Classy post by perhaps a wanna be UK fan. I know a mod that patrols this forum that will ban you in a second for what you just said. I'd recommend you editing it before he sees it.
No one said it did not "blow", but the immature and childish posts by so called UK fans today has been a bit embarrassing. The guy made his decision, and it is over. He is moving on, so should everyone on here. Crying and whining about it is not going to change it. The staff and players have all already moved on, and I am sure we will be fine overall next year at RB and beyond. Boom Williams is a star in the making. If he can stay healthy and stay on the field, he will do great things in the 2-3 years to come. We also have some great depth at the position to give him rest when he needs it. This was not an end all be all loss at a key position of need, but rather would have just given us another good RB in an already deep backfield.
First, I wish Damien Harris the best.
And though bittersweet, I am proud that a KY kid is so highly rated to be sought after by the Bama's, OSU, and Michigans of the football elite. Would have been a powerful get for UK. Both for his onfield potential, and the message it would send to other recruits.
But how many times has this played out in "reverse" in basketball? How many 5 star players have we gotten from other states, where the in state school also had a solid shot? Quiet a few. It happens. And I bet a lot of those UK basketball 5 stars knew where they were going weeks before the big announcement. But didn't tell the home town school.
And saying he decided 6 weeks ago, is probably more of a "compliment" to Bama vs a disrespect to UK. I mean, do any of us really want a player that decided when they sat down at the table? Or to do a T Jones?
Having had some kids who played sports, and been around the recruiting game a bit... I am sure UK had a pretty good idea of late where Harris was going.
And for a 17 year old, what does decided mean anyway? He may have felt pretty good or even certain at that point he was going to Bama. But maybe Mom was still pressing him to go to UK?
I hope he has a great career at Bama, and a great career in the NFL. And as for ASBamaFan, I appreciate your reasonable banter on this thread.
And though bittersweet, I am proud that a KY kid is so highly rated to be sought after by the Bama's, OSU, and Michigans of the football elite. Would have been a powerful get for UK. Both for his onfield potential, and the message it would send to other recruits.
But how many times has this played out in "reverse" in basketball? How many 5 star players have we gotten from other states, where the in state school also had a solid shot? Quiet a few. It happens. And I bet a lot of those UK basketball 5 stars knew where they were going weeks before the big announcement. But didn't tell the home town school.
And saying he decided 6 weeks ago, is probably more of a "compliment" to Bama vs a disrespect to UK. I mean, do any of us really want a player that decided when they sat down at the table? Or to do a T Jones?
Having had some kids who played sports, and been around the recruiting game a bit... I am sure UK had a pretty good idea of late where Harris was going.
And for a 17 year old, what does decided mean anyway? He may have felt pretty good or even certain at that point he was going to Bama. But maybe Mom was still pressing him to go to UK?
I hope he has a great career at Bama, and a great career in the NFL. And as for ASBamaFan, I appreciate your reasonable banter on this thread.
