Don't get your hopes up but Chad Ford reports Bam/Briscoe still 50/50 or undecided
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Would love to have Briscoe back. I think he and Greene and Diallo would be a great back court. We would face a lot of zone. Getting Bam back would be a pleasant surprise. I don't think it happens though.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
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Add Knox (and probably even without him if we get a shooter) and you can book tickets to the FF IMO. Experience length and talent. Cal loves to work with that combo.
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Add Knox (and probably even without him if we get a shooter) and you can book tickets to the FF IMO. Experience length and talent. Cal loves to work with that combo.
If Bam comes back, announce immediately that he'll play the 4 full time. I love Bam, but he is not, and never will be, a rim protector. Bamba is the rim protector we need. Bam can be the offense down low and Bamba can just defend, defend, defend.
I think you guys are getting your hopes up. Both Bam & Briscoe will be gone. Bam is a 1st round pick and can improve his game in the NBA as he is making big bucks. Briscoe will leave & play overseas as he is not getting drafted. Briscoe does not have a good shot from 3 and just don't see him in the NBA.
A lot of you are also are selling Green short. Going to be a very good pg. at UK. Green is a pass 1st pg and will make other players better. I would love to see Bamba at UK.
A lot of you are also are selling Green short. Going to be a very good pg. at UK. Green is a pass 1st pg and will make other players better. I would love to see Bamba at UK.
Bam also has a lot of PT to share next year. He should retain his starter position, but it's never a guarantee. We've heard this before, players think about coming back, but they see the incoming talent, and that can be a deciding factor.
With who?
Bamba is definitely not a done deal, a toss up at best.
Nobody else coming in is playing over Bam.
I don't think he returns but it's not because he is worried about playing time.
Part under the assumption if Bamba comes. Look, it's not ALL about positions.. it's about touches.. it's about times when we go bigger or go smaller. Bamba DOES have some affect on Bam, and vice versa.
The players have said as much.. so IDK what to tell you. Incoming classes seem to be a factor in them leaving. Maybe it's that Bam knows these guys, knows they came here on the pretense of Bam leaving.. so he figures "Ok, it's time"..
The players have said as much.. so IDK what to tell you. Incoming classes seem to be a factor in them leaving. Maybe it's that Bam knows these guys, knows they came here on the pretense of Bam leaving.. so he figures "Ok, it's time"..
I agree with some of the other posters who said no way we keep Bam and also get Bamba. Not happening. Think they will wait till Bam goes through the NBA evaluation process at the camp and get a read of how high in the first round he would likely go. If he goes than Bam will come if he stays no Bamba. I just hope we end up with one or the other on the roster next year. The one I am really hoping for though is Kevin Knox! That would be huge to have Knox and either Bam or Bamba on the same team. This sure helps take the edge out of our loss in the tourney. Does for me anyway. I am very proud of our team this year especially with getting screwed on the NCAA draw as usual. . If not for the questionable calling in the first half of the UNC Game I think we would be in the final 4 now. Time to move on though. Go Cats!
I know Bamba pronounces his name "Bom ba", but it's hard for me not to say "Bam ba".
This is a bit of a tough call,I think it comes down to what we meed to make us a better team.If you factor in who is coming in and what we have on hand while taking Bam and Bamba out of the mix,(if we can only have one of the two)looking at it that way Bamba seems to be more of a need.Vanderbilt and Washington can compensate to a degree for the loss of Bam while neither can bring to the table what Bamba does.In addition if some combination of Jones,Hump and Gabriel return the loss of Bam is lessened.
In most cases the return of an experienced player is preferable to the addition of an unknown but in this case(to paraphrase Spock)the need for the old is outweighed by the need for the new(sorry I couldn't resist)
In most cases the return of an experienced player is preferable to the addition of an unknown but in this case(to paraphrase Spock)the need for the old is outweighed by the need for the new(sorry I couldn't resist)
Well here is the kicker, there is a much longer time for those guys to decide on their draft prospects.
Bam or Bamba is the trade off we are facing. I do not think you can get both.
Briscoe seems to be fine either way. If he is back, we can just bump the 6'5 Diallo to the wing and play with Green and Briscoe as 2 guards. Plus, if we get one of those shooters we started recruiting I do not think their role would change because I think they are first guard off the bench no matter who is here. Alexander may get hurt in the process for PT, but Peyton Siva was a McD AA and only played 10 MPG as a Freshman and he turned out alright.
Bam or Bamba is the trade off we are facing. I do not think you can get both.
Briscoe seems to be fine either way. If he is back, we can just bump the 6'5 Diallo to the wing and play with Green and Briscoe as 2 guards. Plus, if we get one of those shooters we started recruiting I do not think their role would change because I think they are first guard off the bench no matter who is here. Alexander may get hurt in the process for PT, but Peyton Siva was a McD AA and only played 10 MPG as a Freshman and he turned out alright.
If peyton siva had been john wall he would've only played 10 mpg for slick as a freshman.
Although these are both true quotes, I'm not sure why you guys are so easily dismissing Bamba's desire to play the 4. He was very clear that he liked UK because we already have a center and he can play the PF position...?
I'm guessing wenynen will be joining the circus or deciding to got with his second passion of opening a subway
Yeah once again did weynen drop out to purse cosmetology?Briscoe
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That hair isn't going to take care of itself.
The only school I worry that may steal bamba is Michigan. I think bam have zero affect on bamba. Bam is a true four and if we were ever so lucky to land both that would be our front court. Even with out bamba, Richards seems capable of playing center if not him than hump will. I would love to have bamba, but if we could return bam and briscoe, I'll take it and I feel they can do very well. I think green is capable of running the show but will have some wtf moments. I don't think bams decision has no bearing on bamba as bam would literally play the four. Plus I'm fully expecting weynen back who could add big minutes off the bench. Bam is a true four will play that spot if he were to return. This draft is stocked and one more year he would be a top ten player.
lol I figured he took up cosmetology since he seems to put a lot of effort into his hair lol
Hard to see Bam returning, but I do feel that there is a lot of room for improvement in terms of draft stock. Not to mention next year's draft seems significantly weaker.
Briscoe should return, but his stock is what it is. There's not an opportunity for significant draft improvement IMO.
Briscoe should return, but his stock is what it is. There's not an opportunity for significant draft improvement IMO.
Fox even said prior to the season that if he was a lottery pick he'd definitely leave. Said he'd only come back to UK for a second year "if he had to."
I disagree. He continues to work on his jump shot, both mid and long range, he will certainly improve his draft stock. Can he move into the lottery? No. But I think in a down 2018 draft, he can become a solid first rounder, especially with a year of playing exclusively at guard.
Bam on the other hand, I just don't think there is a scenario in which he will come back. He probably should, as he can become a top 8 pick next year with a year of additional work, but I just don't think that will happen. I guess you never know though.
I will bet the farm that Bam, Fox, Monk & Briscoe will leave & I don't even bet. This is a sure thing.
Doesn't matter where he goes, I don't think he will be here next year. It is what it is. Some people have other agendas you don't know about.
Give me Briscoe and Bam over Knox and Bamba every day of the week. With Knox and Bamba, all of our rotational players would be FR except WG and IH. That's scary as heck to me.
On the flipside, I feel like Briscoe and Bam could give us what Lamb and T Jones gave us in 2012 with the ridiculous class we already have committed. A national championship.
Look at Briscoe's improvement from FR to SO year. If he were to improve anywhere near that much as a JR, he would be an all SEC first team, all american type player in what would be an extremely young and lacking players in a backcourt without him.
As far as Bam? I LOVE the Thomas Robinson comparison. As the year went, Bam realized more and more how unstoppable he was. He had a bad last game, but was the #1 reason we won 14 games in a row before UNC.
Give me Green, Briscoe, Diallo, WG, Bam, Richards, Vanderbilt, Washington, and Humphries all day long over Green, Knox, Diallo, WG, Bamba, Richards, Vanderbilt, Washington, and Humphries.
The first group is preseason #1 and will destroy teams from day 1 due to the experience mixed with talent. The second is similar to this year's team. Some early losses, scary road games, and everyone praying they can live up to their potential and make a run for the E8 or better at year's end.
Jr. Briscoe & So. Bam > Fr. Knox & Fr. Bamba
And I don't even think it is close. We tend to give FR the benefit of the doubt here, but sometimes ignore how much players can improve by sticking around. Briscoe may never be a NBA All-Star, but he would be one of the best college guards in the nation as a JR next year, IMO. Added to that, Bam is similarly skilled overall to Bamba as a FR. Of course a SO Bam is better than a FR Bamba. A SO Bam is the preseason SEC player of the year type player.
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
On the flipside, I feel like Briscoe and Bam could give us what Lamb and T Jones gave us in 2012 with the ridiculous class we already have committed. A national championship.
Look at Briscoe's improvement from FR to SO year. If he were to improve anywhere near that much as a JR, he would be an all SEC first team, all american type player in what would be an extremely young and lacking players in a backcourt without him.
As far as Bam? I LOVE the Thomas Robinson comparison. As the year went, Bam realized more and more how unstoppable he was. He had a bad last game, but was the #1 reason we won 14 games in a row before UNC.
Give me Green, Briscoe, Diallo, WG, Bam, Richards, Vanderbilt, Washington, and Humphries all day long over Green, Knox, Diallo, WG, Bamba, Richards, Vanderbilt, Washington, and Humphries.
The first group is preseason #1 and will destroy teams from day 1 due to the experience mixed with talent. The second is similar to this year's team. Some early losses, scary road games, and everyone praying they can live up to their potential and make a run for the E8 or better at year's end.
Jr. Briscoe & So. Bam > Fr. Knox & Fr. Bamba
And I don't even think it is close. We tend to give FR the benefit of the doubt here, but sometimes ignore how much players can improve by sticking around. Briscoe may never be a NBA All-Star, but he would be one of the best college guards in the nation as a JR next year, IMO. Added to that, Bam is similarly skilled overall to Bamba as a FR. Of course a SO Bam is better than a FR Bamba. A SO Bam is the preseason SEC player of the year type player.
All in my completely worthless opinion as always.
We're already really crowded in the frontcourt and would need to be creative with how we play people to make it work. Adding two more players would be unrealistic.
Son of a biscuit. Are you kidding me? Did you not learn anything from the season just concluded? How many times did how many people say on this very board, between early January and late February, that we wouldn't get out of the first weekend, or "at best" be a Sweet 16 team? And if we play anyone - anyone - other than Carolina on Sunday, we're in the Final Four. And already, not even out of March, and you're ready to give up on next year. Have you not learned anything about this coach after 8 years?
Did any one see where Matt jones said bam is leaning toward entering draft with no agent though.
Even with Bam not playing as good as most expected his freshman season at Kentucky, i don't see him coming back. Too much money on the line. It's not like the dude played bad at Kentucky. He actually had a really good year as freshman post player under Cal. It's just some fans hyped the kid up to be a superstar right away when he wasn't. I like Bamba and want him at Kentucky next year, but the fans saying they would take Bamba over a SO Bam is just not being serious. We all know what Bam did as a freshman. We all know the kid will be improved with under year at Kentucky. I like Bamba's potential a lot, but let's be real. Sometimes a kid doesn't bring what you expected while watching him in highschool. Bamba has the stats to be a big time post defender and will probably be elite in the frontcourt, but you just never know. I think it's safe to say a SO Bam is as close as you can get to a guranatee of not being a bust. A SO Bam would probably end up with numbers like 14ppg, 8rpg and 1bpg. Those are not stats that many will give you during a season in the post.
