You can bend the criteria to fit whomever you want but AD is our GOAT. He is the best player to ever step on the basketball court at UK. He is our version of michael Jordan. Playing 1 year means nothing when discussing who is the best ever.
Does Kentucky have a true GOAT?
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41...Issel laughs at 41. He averaged almost 34 ppg
So you never saw Issel play. Not that there is anything wrong with that...
AD may have only played one year, but he had the single most decorated season in college basketball history. Title winner, most wins by a title team (38), best win percentage by a title team, FOY, POY, DPOY, MVP.
Not saying he should be #1.. but damn.. that single year.
Not saying he should be #1.. but damn.. that single year.
^ And was 17th on the Team for FGA.
Issel is 11th in scoring all time. ABA + NBA.
OUR GOAT. No one else is close.
OUR GOAT. No one else is close.
The Issel worship in these threads always sickens me. He was an awesome player for his day. At the same age AD would absolutely annihilate Issel one on one under any set of rules you please. And I’m not even completely convinced AD is our GOAT (though he has a hella case).
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nostalgia is a hell of a drug ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Its should be stipulated whether best while at UK or best all time. Big difference.
Best at UK = IMO Dan Issel but I don't know much about the older guys. AD had a great year but the body of work doesn't surpass what Issel and others have done for their career.
Best all time = will probably be Anthony Davis but he ain't done yet
Best at UK = IMO Dan Issel but I don't know much about the older guys. AD had a great year but the body of work doesn't surpass what Issel and others have done for their career.
Best all time = will probably be Anthony Davis but he ain't done yet
hmmm. Look below - Davis did all that in one year, Issel did 1 of those things in 4 years (he was a consensus 1st team AA his senior year). Yet he was more productive? Can't see it.......
I agree with this and I have followed UK since 1957 and I have never seen a player develop like Dan did in his years at UK. He was truly special!
Dan Issel, Bill Spivey, Anthony Davis
I see were you named Spivey & rightly so. He was basketball's 1st great 7' footer. And would have been a can't miss Hall of Famer if it wasn't for the point shaving scandal that rocked college basketball during that time.
I'll respect your opinion if you tell me: how old were you when Issel played for UK? If you were under 15, ignorance is a heck of a drug too!
Issel scored 27,000 points as a Pro.
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How many rings did Issel win at UK?? I mean with all our nattys seems like the GOAT would come from one of those teams
Jabbar said Issel was the most difficult player he ever guarded in the NBA and he
was the all time leading scorer and rebounder at UK.
11th all time scorer in ABA/NBA.
It's Big Dan.
was the all time leading scorer and rebounder at UK.
11th all time scorer in ABA/NBA.
It's Big Dan.
Wall is over hyped. Great speed, ver good finisher but not transcendent player he was supposed to be. Not that he's not great, he's a star just not a superstar.
nothing against Anthony Davis, but for greatest players for UK . . . not greatest players, but greatest players for UK . . . and I am old, but AD ain't even on the list . . .
If that’s the criteria, it’s this guy:
He played a lot of games but doesn’t have the stats to back it up. Gotta have a natty, a big time producer and has to carry some nba success. Davis top pick (how many we had?), carried his team to a title, averaged 14,10 and 5. He did in what season Issel couldn’t do in 3.
What about Alex Groza?
Way before my time (Heck my dad was 2 years old when he played his last game at UK), but he won back to back titles, was two time MOP of the tourney, consensus 2nd team All-American in '48 and consensus 1st team All-American in 1949. Led the team in scoring both years. Averaged over 20 a game in 1949.
Not saying he is the GOAT, but that's pretty good stats.
Way before my time (Heck my dad was 2 years old when he played his last game at UK), but he won back to back titles, was two time MOP of the tourney, consensus 2nd team All-American in '48 and consensus 1st team All-American in 1949. Led the team in scoring both years. Averaged over 20 a game in 1949.
Not saying he is the GOAT, but that's pretty good stats.
It’s Dan Issel. In terms of pure stats, it’s Issel.
Now with that being said, in terms of shot blocking and court dominance? It’s Davis. Easily.
Davis had 186 blocks in one season. That’s insane. If he had stayed 4 years. Oh my.
Now with that being said, in terms of shot blocking and court dominance? It’s Davis. Easily.
Davis had 186 blocks in one season. That’s insane. If he had stayed 4 years. Oh my.
But Davis doesn’t win if Pete Maravich is playing either. As far as all time seasons, it would be hard for anyone to compete with Pete. Lol Different conversation but very interesting. I love this board.
That’s probably as close as any argument for either player. I’ll take that. Anyone being in the same conversation with Issel at UK is unbelievable.
Yes he would...
It's Davis. Anyone who says otherwise are confused that winning basketball is all about putting big numbers. It's not.
AD knew how to win at collegiate level. He probably did some thing unintentionally but that's the reality.
AD's accolades are far greater than anyone else. It's quite insane actually. Right now he's considered top 3 player in NBA. Absolutely insnae dude.
Thanks for that. He was a bad man from what the older guys say. That sure was a great career. Can u believe how many great players we’ve had. I feel like I’m the luckiest man in the world to have been born and raised a KY WILDCAT!
Wow. I know It hasn’t been that long but it happened so fast and he was gone. Just thinking back how dominant he was seems unreal now. Just wow. Such a rare and talented guy. Actually once in a lifetime kinda guy.
