Did Barnhart Really Say No to an Offensive Guru?
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No, this has NOT been confirmed. Of course not. Nothing in Tucker's article is "confirmed", it was just a strategic misdirection piece.
Also though the guy gets paid 9 million a year and has a full staff that HE has hired. Why do you need another offensive guru? That should be a part of the support staff that's already in place.
Also though the guy gets paid 9 million a year and has a full staff that HE has hired. Why do you need another offensive guru? That should be a part of the support staff that's already in place.
Not buying it.. Cal ain’t gonna let Mitch have control over who his assistants are.
The head coach chooses his own assistants, that’s just how it works.
The head coach chooses his own assistants, that’s just how it works.
This. Cal makes $9 million a year. And he has 3 full time assistants. I don't blame Mitch for saying we're spending enough on your staff, you figure it out. The assistants are not just there to recruit. They should also be able to coach some. So should Cal.
Not even sure how that would work
You already have 4 assistants.
2 student coaches. Trainer, strength and conditioning coach.
Would they be allowed on the bench?
Who would want that job and would their voice get heard with all those people during the game?
You can't have a hundred staff and think they'll all contribute.
If that is to be a position, you have to have to replace someone high on the totem pole.
You already have 4 assistants.
2 student coaches. Trainer, strength and conditioning coach.
Would they be allowed on the bench?
Who would want that job and would their voice get heard with all those people during the game?
You can't have a hundred staff and think they'll all contribute.
If that is to be a position, you have to have to replace someone high on the totem pole.
Reality works in mysterious ways. In these days, all you need is to think something and it is so. If you say something out loud, it has been proved.
I’ll play devils advocate.
Cal is a defense and rebounding coach. Look at the UT game and it was defense and rebounding that were radically different from the USCjr game. So he says ok we got that but wants to bring in someone to modernize the offense.
I don’t necessarily believe it, but Barney shooting such a thing down is totally believable too.
Let me play Devil’s Advocate with a rebuttal of my own.
I’m good with Cal being a defensive and rebounding coach. No issues there. What I’m saying though is no one is asking him to do this all himself. He already has a full, very well paid support staff of assistant coaches. If Cal really needs to bring in some guru to modernize the offense, then I hate to say it but one of the members of the already very full very much already existent support staff is not pulling their weight. Why are they here? Are they just a full staff of recruiters?
My argument is simply that Cal should not need another layer of support. Every staff has assistants for a reason.
This. If he was told no, it was 100% the right call. We know two of the guys are dynamite recruiters. That's fine. Cut bruiser loose and hire someone who adds value.
I guess the other option would be return part of that salary and use that for the hire. You'd think we could get a really bright offensive mind for less than a million per year
If he didn't he should have! If a college HC making 9+million yr, coaching 8-10 players can't run a team without somebody drawing up plays for him then he has no business coaching and CCC should be embarrassed for himself for even asking for this.
Completely ridiculous. If Cal really wanted one, or needed one, he could pay for it himself.
I don't know how you can confirm it, with anything short of Barnhart saying he declined that request.
Antigua, it’s safe to say, is a full time recruiter. It looks more and more like Chin is too. And hey, they reeled in a huge (final?) class for Cal.
Who replaced Robic? Who replaced Strickland? Those are not rhetorical questions, I have either forgotten or they weren’t really replaced. Hiring a special assistant isn’t that big of a deal.
How does playing man to man switch all screens for the entire game make one a defensive coach? Massive improvement on that end but they still missed 5 wide open bunny looks.
Why is Bruiser Flint here? What exactly is his position? What about the guy that came from Texas that replaced Lucas? Sorry brain fart on his name
NCAA allows instructions and input from only a certain number of coaches ….we have the allowed number. Cal can cut anyone loose and hire anyone he wants and they’ll likely be top 10% in pay of all paid assistants . UK’s offense isn’t the fault of the athletic department
100%. The facilities and “Cal needs an offensive guru and Mitch said no” are silly distractions and somehow people bought them hook, line, and sinker.
If cal wanted an offensive Guru, he could easily replace an assistant for one.
It's clear as crystal that Cal needs help with offensive strategy and coaching. It's also pretty clear he doesn't want anyone showing him up on the sideline. It's also a fact that we have the number of coaches we can have.
Since Cal hasn't earned half of his paid wages for at least 2 of the last 4 years, why doesn't he pony up the dough for a guru to come in during practices and teach a tailored offensive system to him and to his players based on the talent he has on hand? Surely there's someone out there that can see what he has and how to best use it. (Not that it's his job or anything.) If the person is hired by Cal as a personal consultant/assistant, the university is off the hook, right?
Since Cal hasn't earned half of his paid wages for at least 2 of the last 4 years, why doesn't he pony up the dough for a guru to come in during practices and teach a tailored offensive system to him and to his players based on the talent he has on hand? Surely there's someone out there that can see what he has and how to best use it. (Not that it's his job or anything.) If the person is hired by Cal as a personal consultant/assistant, the university is off the hook, right?
Disagree. I find it quite difficult to believe.
First off, I’m not even sure what we’re talking about here. NCAA rules limit the number of assistant coaches and GAs each team can hire. So are people suggesting hiring another guy in addition to those limits under the title of “offensive guru”? I doubt that would even be allowed, as it would be construed as an attempt to do an end run around the rules..
As for his official coaching staff, no way. The HC, not the AD, chooses his own staff. That’s something every head coach insists on having control over. No way Cal would allow himself to be the exception.
This sounds like just another bullshit rumor to me.
Agree STL. This is the avenue that our coach is CHOOSING to travel down now that he's on the hot seat. His folks are creating diversions, PR stunts, half-truths, and complete fabrications to distract from the record, downward trends, and absentee coaching.
It’s Cal’s effing job to coach this team. He is just lazy and has shown that over time. It takes some thought and work on the chalk board to draw up an offense that works to get players good shots. He doesn’t want to invest the time yet he makes all of that money to do just that. His lazy non coaching ass can’t leave soon enough for me.
most coaches are familiar with most ‘styles ‘ of offense and can coach it . I think a lot of it is our best player happens to be an oak tree in the middle , so we play a little different than some other teams. That ‘true’ 5 post player doesn’t exist much anymore . What we are doing looks better when shots go in , especially the floppy screens and such that get some three looks . Every bit of of everything looks better when our D steps up like Saturday. If Cal is here next yr , they’ll play different than this group . Rick Barnes would get hammered here , b/c all his teams look ‘bad’ offensively a lot , and the whole thing is about defense …and he recruits that way . Strong , wide-body types that are tough and willing to play D. When he pops with a team that can guard like this group and is willing to , you get really good records …27-5 type stuff
Here is my question, why are we paying Cal 8 million a year, if he needs to hire a coach for offense, makes no sense.
Take it out of CCC's compensation. He shouldn't need one for 9 Mil a year anyway.
As he should have. How many coaches does the team need?
This isn't football.
This isn't football.
We can’t hire any more even if we wanted to. We’re at the NCAA limit.
Only way we can hire another coach under the rules is if we fire someone on the current staff to make room for him. This rumor is so bogus.
9 million a year should ensure you already have an offensive guru imo.
Man this is reminiscent of the Tubby days when it comes to assistants. If Cal wants an offensive coach and he feels he doesn’t have one on his staff fire somebody and hire someone that can coach offense. Mitch should do to him what he did to Tubby tell him you need to make assistant changes!
9 mil a yr and 3 assistants! He shouldn't need an offensive guru. He should be the guru
Begs the wues
Flint needs to take an actual assistant coach job and a new assistant head coach that’s an offensive guru needs to be hired, imo.
I know he’s Cal’s buddy but cmon man.
Begs the question why in the hell is Bruiser Flint here? Literally what does he do?
Flint needs to take an actual assistant coach job and a new assistant head coach that’s an offensive guru needs to be hired, imo.
I know he’s Cal’s buddy but cmon man.
Yes..like the one you look at in the mirror every morning shaving your face. This is an embarrassment of epic proportion.
There is no way Cal asked Barney for an offensive coach. Thus there's no way Barney denied the request.
I didn’t read the article but I heard on ksr before that it said he asked Mitch for an offensive and defensive coordinator. Let’s look at that with common sense, first college basketball don’t have offensive and defensive coordinators, that’s for football and secondly with Cal’s ego, do you think he would say, “hey Mitch, I need to hire a offensive coordinator” or Offensive guru, however it was said is ridiculous. Cal wouldn’t say that unless he’s joking. That’s what the current coaches are paid to do
Cal doesn’t even delegate. He has a support staff but cal does what he wants. They’re all yes men. Bruiser does nothing. His loyalty is why he’s there. Cals ego won’t allow bringing in someone to run half the game. It’s ludicrous that cal even made that comment because we know the truth. He has a bench full of guys who can recruit and yes men.
I think Barnhart should have done more to shoot that down in the interview though
I've said this before but regardless of how much Cal is paid and what you think Cal should be responsible for, the AD does not want to be seen as a road block to helping improve the program.
you just don't say no in that situation - not when it comes to the flagship program at the University.
I've said this before but regardless of how much Cal is paid and what you think Cal should be responsible for, the AD does not want to be seen as a road block to helping improve the program.
you just don't say no in that situation - not when it comes to the flagship program at the University.
What he said was exactly correct. He will always be happy to provide all his athletic programs with the support staff they need to be successful. Only answer that he needed to give. It’s absurd to suggest that unless he gives Cal another offensive guru on his staff he is somehow a roadblock to improving the program.
What the athletic department provides to Cal is a very healthy budget and carte blanch to hire all the assistant coaches and support staff allowable by the NCAA. If Cal hasn’t filled one of those positions with what he needs, that’s on Cal. Not on the Athletic Director.
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