Hmm. Aaron Bradshaw

[LmdCat]

It’s funny, UK actually had a player “point shaving” a few seasons ago but it wasn’t AB! AB doesn’t play enough, or play the right position to point shave, besides the officiating is there to prevent that!

I love watching fake UK fans grasp at anything, ANYTHING, at all that could come back to potentially harm UK😂

Well folks, keep dreaming, because Coach Pope is about to go on a run that’s going to break your pathetic little hearts🤣

This has nothing to do with UK fans grasping at anything. UK fans are simply reporting what they have read or heard. If that bothers you, SO WHAT! This has very little to do with Kentucky other than Bradshaw played for Kentucky. This is a Bradshaw matter and possibly a Cal problem. We don't have a single player or coach who were associated with anything Kentucky during the Cal nightmare. Maybe Arkansas should be concerned about the continued investigation and their New Jersey, Delaware, and Pennsylvania connections.

 

[Digger-Cat]

Since we are going to assume that we know what is going on, let's consider this. Maybe the real reason Cal left Kentucky is one of his buddies informed him about this investigation. The story that I read stated that another player has already been released from the program he played for because of point shaving. The point shaving scandal involves other players whose names will soon be released, and the players under investigation have a Delaware, New Jersey, or Pennsylvania connection. This investigation is just really getting started and it may result in the total ban of college sports betting.

If that came true and Cal did leave after hearing it was coming, would anyone be surprised? I sure wouldn't.

 

[Digger-Cat]

Combing through Google, it pisses me off when all the different news outlets post about this Bradshaw situation. They don't say "Ohio State's Aaron Bradshaw is in trouble", no, they say "former Kentucky player, Aaron Bradshaw is in trouble".
I widh they would stop doing that. He's Ohio State's problem now.

 

[KentuckyCat420]

Combing through Google, it pisses me off when all the different news outlets post about this Bradshaw situation. They don't say "Ohio State's Aaron Bradshaw is in trouble", no, they say "former Kentucky player, Aaron Bradshaw is in trouble".
I widh they would stop doing that. He's Ohio State's problem now.

It seems highly likely that whatever Bradshaw did happened during his time at Kentucky, so it’s relevant whether you like it or not.

 

[LmdCat]

If that came true and Cal did leave after hearing it was coming, would anyone be surprised? I sure wouldn't.

If this is true, it would simply mean that his well-established coaching pattern remains true.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

Combing through Google, it pisses me off when all the different news outlets post about this Bradshaw situation. They don't say "Ohio State's Aaron Bradshaw is in trouble", no, they say "former Kentucky player, Aaron Bradshaw is in trouble".
I widh they would stop doing that. He's Ohio State's problem now.

What are the sources doing that? The only ones I see doing that are UK fan sites that are leaning into the UK connection. Every other non-UK related site is labeling him as an Ohio State player.

 

[Ky_Bred_Cat]

Wrong forum.

My post is gone. It literally repeated, and made light of, the three main themes discussed throughout this thread. Did you even read the thread? Are you a MOD? WTH.

 

[Digger-Cat]

It seems highly likely that whatever Bradshaw did happened during his time at Kentucky, so it’s relevant whether you like it or not.

Highly likely? I disagree. He didn't play enough here to shave points.
At this point right now, UK has nothing to do with whatever the issue is and nobody has a shred of evidence that shiws he did anything at UK, so UK's name shouldn't be involved.
If this was Lamont Butler, would anybody say "ex San Diego State player Lamont Butlee… .". No, so why do it with AB? He's an Ohio State player and that's wjat the headlines should say.

 

[Ky_Bred_Cat]

My post is gone. It literally repeated, and made light of, the three main themes discussed throughout this thread. Did you even read the thread? Are you a MOD? WTH.

The three main themes in this thread:
- was speeding and didn't show up in court
- was point shaving
- likes guys

It's not hard to guess which of the three of these topics you glanced at in my post, without even reading the full thread, and made a snap decision to delete my comment (which was funny).

Better go back and read the thread. You might chose to delete numerous other comments if you are so offended by that and are interested in being consistent.

 

[ukfan1622]

Highly likely? I disagree. He didn't play enough here to shave points.
At this point right now, UK has nothing to do with whatever the issue is and nobody has a shred of evidence that shiws he did anything at UK, so UK's name shouldn't be involved.
If this was Lamont Butler, would anybody say "ex San Diego State player Lamont Butlee… .". No, so why do it with AB? He's an Ohio State player and that's wjat the headlines should say.

Because when it comes to college basketball Ohio State is a nobody.

 

[berniecarbo]

For Ohio people. Is 30 mph over a felony in Ohio? Just something I heard. That would make it more than just a ticket.

 

[CastleRubric]

I don’t see this situation being the same as the other 2

Wasnt Rose declared eligible by the NCAA
So they played him

THEN the NCAA reopened their findings and flipped him to INeligible & pursued sanctions?


Could have sworn that one had a really weird twist

 

[TucsonCat]

Another scenario is that Bradshaw heard about point shaving and bet on those games as well.
It does have a Philly angle.
He might be the Shoeless Joe Jackson of this story.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Wasnt Rose declared eligible by the NCAA
So they played him

THEN the NCAA reopened their findings and flipped him to INeligible & pursued sanctions?


Could have sworn that one had a really weird twist

It did and I don't think they ever really proved beyond a reasonable doubt he cheated. Rose still has never admitted he did (if he did) either.

And the Camby thing is a who gives a crap. With what we have now, UMass should be able to hang and claim that banner.

 

[Creed Bratton]

I don't gamble but can "point shaving" not only be affecting the spread of a game but also individual stats for parlays?

 

[Fox2monk]

I don't gamble but can "point shaving" not only be affecting the spread of a game but also individual stats for parlays?

Could be but I doubt any of his parleys paid out much unless it was part of like pick 10 of them to hit that night or something and he did it for that.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

I don't gamble but can "point shaving" not only be affecting the spread of a game but also individual stats for parlays?

In modern gambling, yes, that is a possibility. It typically occurs when a player feigns injury to be taken out of the game because their stats will register if they entered the game. It could also happen if a player tries to get ejected or deliberately in foul trouble.

Individual "under" prop bets are the biggest problem, and these might be going away soon for NCAA if they haven't already.

It's difficult to prove in one off performances unless suspicious betting occurs. Jontay Porter was outed when somebody placed an $80,000 bet on him to underperform. Who does that? Nobody, and that's how the greed got him caught.

 

[Creed Bratton]

Could be but I doubt any of his parleys paid out much unless it was part of like pick 10 of them to hit that night or something and he did it for that.

Gotcha. Like I said I don't gamble and know nothing about it but hear the constant talk about betting and parlays from KSR when I actually listen to it.

 

[Fox2monk]

Gotcha. Like I said I don't gamble and know nothing about it but hear the constant talk about betting and parlays from KSR when I actually listen to it.

Parlays pay out a lot when you pick a bunch of them together. I’m no expert on gambling, but generally the more things you bet on IE: such as Kobe scoring over 20 points. The more you bet on for a single bet like 10 separate players doing something that night wether it be rebounds, points, steals, whatever the lower the chance you hit, and therefore a greater payout because of the high odds. If you miss just one bet in the parlay you lose, therefore you get a larger payout the more small bets you roll into one large bet.

 

[travisbickle]

I’ve done zero reading on any of this outside of this thread, but couldn’t this be a much simpler issue of him just betting on OSU games this season?

 

[catsfanbgky]

I will wait until ALL of the facts come out and see if it was a gambling issue or related while at UK. One thing I do not see, is how Cal had anything to do with it ??? Why put all the blame on him ? It may not even be while at UK, lets wait for the facts of what actually he did to point blame. People are jumping the gun and making claims but have NONE of the facts of what he actually did and where ???

 

[catsfanbgky]

I’ve done zero reading on any of this outside of this thread, but couldn’t this be a much simpler issue of him just betting on OSU games this season?

Or gambling in general. maybe not even on OSU games, just college games. I will wait for the facts to come out before blaming anyone.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

It’s a domestic incident for Bradshaw.

 

[B.B.H.]

The three main themes in this thread:
- was speeding and didn't show up in court
- was point shaving
- likes guys

It's not hard to guess which of the three of these topics you glanced at in my post, without even reading the full thread, and made a snap decision to delete my comment (which was funny).

Better go back and read the thread. You might chose to delete numerous other comments if you are so offended by that and are interested in being consistent.

It was a funny post, entirely on topic and had zero business getting deleted. I saw it coming though, let’s be real —- there are certain types of people who get protected to the degree of enforcing everyone else’s behavior insomuch that walking on eggshells is the normal way of things. Those are the “allegedly” tolerant people and they not only have their own libertarian free wills but provide dams to yours. Just my two cents. (I also find it comical because I’ve been a long time viewer of this site long before I’ve been posting and I rarely see the same person who complained being on topic. Almost every thread turns into something about Calipari to them and no one minds because this is, after all, a message board.) For what it’s worth with Bradshaw, I hope everything turns out to be a nothing burger. He wasn’t the best player but seemed like a genuinely likable dude at UK.

 

[KAB Cats]

It’s a domestic incident for Bradshaw.

Still so many sketchy details....

Not clear if we are talking a domestic issue AND gambling issue or a domestic issue OR a gambling issue or if all of it is just internet chatter.

 

[cathouse]

Fighting two women for their rebound?

We know who won that fight.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Still so many sketchy details....

Not clear if we are talking a domestic issue AND gambling issue or a domestic issue OR a gambling issue or if all of it is just internet chatter.

It’s a domestic incident at his apartment on campus

 

[KAB Cats]

It’s a domestic incident at his apartment on campus

Yes -- reportedly according to Twitter...

But that doesn't mean it's not gambling.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Yes -- reportedly according to Twitter...

But that doesn't mean it's not gambling.

I don’t think it’s gambling anymore, the OSU media are now saying the same stuff this report says.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

It was a domestic incident. At Ohio State. With Nothing to Do With Kentucky Basketball. Read the link below.

So, despite 100 posts in this thread: THERE WAS NO POINT SHAVING. HE DID NOT FIX GAMES. IT WASN'T ANYTHING TO DO WITH GAMBLING. IT HAS NO EFFECT ON KENTUCKY.

It is absolutely bizarre that people would make this up out of thin air, with no basis in reality, and through some weird alchemy it gets transmogrified into the truth just by repetition.

Ohio State's Aaron Bradshaw being investigated for domestic incident

Ohio State's Aaron Bradshaw is not currently participating in team activities as the university investigates a domestic incident.

www.dispatch.com

 

[shaudyshaud]

The point shaving angle never made sense considering the player in question .

Glad that was put to rest

 

[KAB Cats]

It was Trilly Donovan, who is connected and pretty onpoint behind the scenes, who suggested the link the gambling sting. That rumor didn't appear out of nowhere. Ohio State very well may be saying this is due to a domestic incident, but to reiterate, it's definitely not a foregone conclusion that Bradshaw is not involved in gambling.

It also might be the case that the gambling matter was "fake news" so to speak, but need time to let things play out.

 

[B.B.H.]

I still think they should check his box scores at Kentucky and charge his with point shaving for each of those minutes

 

[catsfanbgky]

Yes -- reportedly according to Twitter...

But that doesn't mean it's not gambling.

You will just not give up on your theory will you ? IT IS NOT GAMBLING RELATED. Give it up, it is NOT true.

"Let it play out", why don't you practice what you preach ??

 

[KAB Cats]

You will just not give up on your theory will you ? IT IS NOT GAMBLING RELATED. Give it up, it is NOT true.

lol, I have no theory. Im just relaying information.

 

[catsfanbgky]

lol, I have no theory. Im just relaying information.

Well, it is FALSE information, so stop spreading rumors that have NOT been proven to be facts, which would not be rumors. You are relaying unproven guesses, it is very unethical and borderline stupid. It has been stated it is domestic, it has NOT been stated gambling, see the difference ?

 

[KAB Cats]

Well, it is FALSE information, so stop spreading rumors that have NOT been proven to be facts, which would not be rumors. You are relaying unproven guesses, it is very unethical and borderline stupid. It has been stated it is domestic, it has NOT been stated gambling, see the difference ?

Here's the thing, buddy. You have no idea what is rumor or true any more than I know what is rumor or true. What I do know is that Trilly Donovan is very well connected and does carry credibility.

Now, those MIGHT be rumors that are totally unfounded, but my point is.... Aaron Bradshaw might have more than a single problem. You have zero ability to disprove that statement. The truth will play out eventually.

 

[B.B.H.]

You will just not give up on your theory will you ? IT IS NOT GAMBLING RELATED. Give it up, it is NOT true.

Well to be fair he could have

Here's the thing, buddy. You have no idea what is rumor or true any more than I know what is rumor or true. What I do know is that Trilly Donovan is very well connected and does carry credibility.

Now, those MIGHT be rumors that are totally unfounded, but my point is.... Aaron Bradshaw might have more than a single problem. You have zero ability to disprove that statement. The truth will play out eventually.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

But that doesn't mean it's not gambling.

LOL. Yes, he was gambling that he could become entangled in a "domestic incident" and no one would report it to the Athletic Department.

But keep trying. If the utterly improbable, preposterous and almost ridiculous claim that Aaron Bradshaw played a role in fixing games or shaving points or otherwise conspiring with gamblers while at Kentucky last year can be willed into reality, you can do it.