Did Barnhart Really Say No to an Offensive Guru?

[aceman509]

Does anyone know who K.T. Turner is or what he does? Not sarcasm, I read about UK every day as a lot of folks on this board do and I just had to look him up on the UK athletics website to remember his name.

Even if one of Orlando/Chin/Bruiser isn't dedicated to offense or a game plan, the last "new, young guy" on the staff should be responsible for that role. Do we really have 4 assistants that are only here for recruiting?

 

[sluggercatfan]

I think the biggest disconnect you and I are having here is my problem isn’t really what Cal is being paid.

The bigger issue here is that Cal HAS A STAFF. He has assistant coaches already. Several, very well paid assistants. As many as the NCAA will allow. If he needs another member of his already huge and well paid support staff, the AD has to ask about what the roles and responsibilities are for your current staff? If a head coach needs help designing his offense, that’s literally why assistant coach positions exist. And if one of those roles isn’t pulling their weight, you cut them loose. The money is there. But you might have to do the hard thing and fire a guy to access it. It’s up to Cal, not Mitch.

NOBODY in CCC'S position should need an offensive coordinator for BASKETBALL! If he needs one that should be a total embarrassment to him.

 

[STL_Cat]

NOBODY in CCC'S position should need an offensive coordinator for BASKETBALL! If he needs one that should be a total embarrassment to him.

And even if you do, that’s why you have a full staff of assistant coaches. If you need an offensive coordinator, that’s why you have a staff. We happen to have the highest paid staff of assistant coaches in all of college basketball, including the top paid assistant in Orlando Antigua.

The fact that we have anyone taking this topic and believing that Mitch Barnhart is in any way impeding the progress of the college basketball program — if anyone believes that, then mission accomplished by Cal. Don’t buy into it.

 

[STL_Cat]

Does anyone know who K.T. Turner is or what he does? Not sarcasm, I read about UK every day as a lot of folks on this board do and I just had to look him up on the UK athletics website to remember his name.

Even if one of Orlando/Chin/Bruiser isn't dedicated to offense or a game plan, the last "new, young guy" on the staff should be responsible for that role. Do we really have 4 assistants that are only here for recruiting?

Exactly. You can’t tell me you have an entire staff whose sole responsibilities are recruiting. Especially when the head coach is known for that being his main strength as well. What that tells me is a major strategic error by Cal in assembling his staff. If I’m MB, I say you have plenty of support staff, you’ve just done a really poor job assembling it if you have 90% of your staff dedicated to one thing.

 

[STL_Cat]

Bruiser might need to have a meeting with The Bobs.

“What, exactly, would ya say ya do here?”

 

[ChaiseyD]

How did he supposedly treat Robic? Last time I heard Robic speak he couldn't have been more thankful to Cal.

I guess I missed this conspiracy theory?

No robics wife came out and said that he was let go without much of anything said at all.

 

[billoliver40]

Truth is that the NCAA still has some rules that limit the number of coaches on a basketball team. Even the proposed rules that ADD two assistants state they cannot recruit.
Kentucky pays its coach an inordinate salary. The assistants are some of the highest paid around and few if any schools have a "Kentucky" recruiting budget.

No such thing as an offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator in basketball.

Sounds like Calipari wants to get paid 9 large a year tk recruit while two other guys do the actual coaching.

BS idea that seeks to throw responsibility on the AD that has paid Calipari like a king.

I guarantee you if the team somehow pulls a turnaround, we won't see anybody giving cred to the AD....and no reason to.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Maybe Cal will leak some more ignorant BS to Kyle Tucker to distract the sheep. We got more coaches than players on the bench but Mitch Barnhart won’t let this washed up old man hire a offensive guru. Too funny.

 

[billoliver40]

The point is that whatever is left of the ncaa allows a certain number of coaches. If Cal wants to make one of those slots 'offensive coordinator" I'm dure he has that right.

This whole thing is smoke and mirrors.

 

[CatsFanIL]

I guess I'm confused, why can't he hire an offensive coordinator? Pretty simple, hire an assistant coach that excels in offensive game-planning and schemes? Don't hire Bruiser. Don't hire Tony Barbee. Hire a great Xs and Os assistant coach. Cal is a great recruiter, so are Chin and Antigua - so Cal can obviously go out and hire an assistant coach of his choosing that excels at Xs and Os. Purdue uses an OC, Gonzaga uses an OC, Northwestern too I think. I'm sure there are many more. But why doesn't he just delegate that? Quit crying about money. Cal, Antigua, KT, Bruiser, and Chin - that's 5 full-time coaches on staff but you can't figure out a better offense? Get out of here

 

[STL_Cat]

I guess I'm confused, why can't he hire an offensive coordinator? Pretty simple, hire an assistant coach that excels in offensive game-planning and schemes? Don't hire Bruiser. Don't hire Tony Barbee. Hire a great Xs and Os assistant coach. Cal is a great recruiter, so are Chin and Antigua - so Cal can obviously go out and hire an assistant coach of his choosing that excels at Xs and Os. Purdue uses an OC, Gonzaga uses an OC, Northwestern too I think. I'm sure there are many more. But why doesn't he just delegate that? Quit crying about money. Cal, Antigua, KT, Bruiser, and Chin - that's 5 full-time coaches on staff but you can't figure out a better offense? Get out of here

Exactly what I said over and over again in this thread, well said. What's unbelievable is that people actually fell for this.

 

[qwesley]

Step one is being open to empowering assistants to give input. It is all Cal in timeouts.

 

[Verbal Kint II]

New assistant is definitely gonna be this offensive guru he wasn’t allowed to hire, right? Not Josh Pastner or Derek Kellog.

 

[yoshukai]

New assistant is definitely gonna be this offensive guru he wasn’t allowed to hire, right? Not Josh Pastner or Derek Kellog.

I’m sure the Cal cult will say “Mitch forced him to hire ________. “ It’s never Cals fault.

 

[EliteBlue]

Basketball isn’t football.

The offense and defense aren’t made up of completely different players that are on the field at separate times adjusting to a plethora of schemes and concepts

Football has a 100 man roster.

Basketball has 10-15 and possession changes every 25 seconds with the same 5 playing both sides of the ball.

We play strictly man….the Cal Crew says he’s a defensive guy so if we are only playing a single defense with refusal to adjust to personnel via a zone etc then Cal should already have plenty of time to teach and perfect a more diverse offense. The fact he doesn’t is purely bc he emphasizes 1v1 playmaking to showcase and get ready for the NBA and a few generic concepts based around athleticism.

You do not need multiple “coordinators” or position coaches for a 10 man roster plus a couple walk ons. That’s Cal being lazy and trying to delegate all responsibility while collecting 9 mil. It isn’t a 100man roster we’re you need position coaches and coordinators to divide attention and maximize the 2 hours of practice time daily for positions specialization.

The staff to player ratio is already 1:2 in the basketball lockerroom

 

[NociHTTP]

Basketball isn’t football.

The offense and defense aren’t made up of completely different players that are on the field at separate times adjusting to a plethora of schemes and concepts

Football has a 100 man roster.

Basketball has 10-15 and possession changes every 25 seconds with the same 5 playing both sides of the ball.

We play strictly man….the Cal Crew says he’s a defensive guy so if we are only playing a single defense with refusal to adjust to personnel via a zone etc then Cal should already have plenty of time to teach and perfect a more diverse offense. The fact he doesn’t is purely bc he emphasizes 1v1 playmaking to showcase and get ready for the NBA and a few generic concepts based around athleticism.

You do not need multiple “coordinators” or position coaches for a 10 man roster plus a couple walk ons. That’s Cal being lazy and trying to delegate all responsibility while collecting 9 mil. It isn’t a 100man roster we’re you need position coaches and coordinators to divide attention and maximize the 2 hours of practice time daily for positions specialization.

The staff to player ratio is already 1:2 in the basketball lockerroom

So many people are going to get their eyes opened when there's a new head coach in place.

 

[BlueSince92]

Misdirection or not....

Cal no longer recruits at a level that digs himself out of his previous season's holes from attrition, injury, misused players performing badly, players forgotten on the bench and underdeveloped, and scouting duds.

He runs a matador defense that feeds off inflated computer numbers when his upper tier athletes play weaker teams, but ranked teams generally can and do drive trucks through it.

If Cal himself is not the Offensive Guru, why again are we throwing nine million dollars his way every year?

 

[CatsFanIL]

Basketball isn’t football.

The offense and defense aren’t made up of completely different players that are on the field at separate times adjusting to a plethora of schemes and concepts

Football has a 100 man roster.

Basketball has 10-15 and possession changes every 25 seconds with the same 5 playing both sides of the ball.

We play strictly man….the Cal Crew says he’s a defensive guy so if we are only playing a single defense with refusal to adjust to personnel via a zone etc then Cal should already have plenty of time to teach and perfect a more diverse offense. The fact he doesn’t is purely bc he emphasizes 1v1 playmaking to showcase and get ready for the NBA and a few generic concepts based around athleticism.

You do not need multiple “coordinators” or position coaches for a 10 man roster plus a couple walk ons. That’s Cal being lazy and trying to delegate all responsibility while collecting 9 mil. It isn’t a 100man roster we’re you need position coaches and coordinators to divide attention and maximize the 2 hours of practice time daily for positions specialization.

The staff to player ratio is already 1:2 in the basketball lockerroom

I actually disagree. Seems like most of your argument is built around what happens in games, when comparing football to basketball. Your "DC" or your "OC" could have an increased and significan role in practice. Implementing the offensive scheme, creating scoring options for specific lineups, preparing specifically for how to attack this team or that team. Then in games, sets/actions ready to attack the specific team you're playing - whether out of a timeout, off a free-throw, dead-ball situations, etc. Instead of spending most of their time recruiting or focused on player development, they're focused on the offensive scheme.

Obviously, same with the defensive side.

 

[Verbal Kint II]

Weird that Cal is hiring a player development coach instead of an offensive coordinator. I guess Barnhart still won’t let him hire one.

 

[North Carolina Blue Wildcat]

I don’t know if he did or didn’t but I would say no as well if I were paying a coach $9m per year..

 

[dl51344]

Step one is being open to empowering assistants to give input. It is all Cal in timeouts.

I have noticed how most good coaches have at least one assistant giving input and being listened to during time outs. Some do the time out totally themselves. At Ky the assistants sit as statues in their seats as if they need permission from Cal to get up. I might be exaggerating but not much. JMO.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Maybe Barnhart won’t let Cal sign guys out of of the portal just like he won’t let him hire an “offensive coordinator”. Maybe we need to back off of Cal since it’s not his fault… “if true.”

 

[kl40504]

I work with a lady that is a UK alumnus, about my age. She doesn't live around Kentucky anymore but we still chat regularly as we work for the same company.

We were out at a work event back in February and she was going on and on about Barnhart and how he "won't let Calipari build a new practice facility or hire an offensive coordinator."

I was shocked there are real humans out here falling for Cal's smokescreens and misdirection.

Not

 

[jwphelps]

Sorry if it's common knowledge, but has been a busy weekend. Carved out time for the Cats and Bengals and was rewarded by both.

Anyways, I know Tucker's article said Cal wanted to hire an offensive guru and Barnhart said no. Has this been confirmed?

Here is my question, we have a coach that gets paid about 10 million per year, why does he need an offensive guru, is that not his job, or is he admitting that he can't coach.

 

[UKnCincy]

Here is my question, we have a coach that gets paid about 10 million per year, why does he need an offensive guru, is that not his job, or is he admitting that he can't coach.

Exactly.

Cal asking to hire an offensive guru is like a race car driver asking his team to hire a co-driver to operate only the brakes. It’s not necessary and adds dead weight.

 

[Magilla Gorillla]

Maybe Barnhart won’t let Cal sign guys out of of the portal just like he won’t let him hire an “offensive coordinator”. Maybe we need to back off of Cal since it’s not his fault… “if true.”

This was obvious sarcasm and kI40504 liked it. Bless his heart.

 

[CatPhight]

Here is my question, we have a coach that gets paid about 10 million per year, why does he need an offensive guru, is that not his job, or is he admitting that he can't coach.