Did Anyone Else Notice the Ball Spotting Seemed to Short UK in Oxford?

[The-Hack]

For the first time since the 2019 Belk Bowl, I thought the refs consistently marked Kentucky a half yard (or more) short of where the ball was located in the offensive player’s hands.

Sure, they are supposed to mark it where a knee or elbow (etc.) lands and not give credit for an extra foot or two if the body part landed before the offensive player stretches out.

But we all watch a lot of college ball and know that 90 percent of the time, the offensive player is sort of given the benefit of the doubt, and the ball marked where the ball was in his grasp when tackled.

I felt there were 5 or 6 obvious spots where our player had crossed a five yard lateral mark by at least a half yard, only to see the ball spotted a foot from the five yard lateral mark.

?????

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

I saw that a few times; also thought they gave a favorable spot to Ole Miss on a few plays, including a key first down.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

Yes they were shorting us and favoring Ole Miss. Stoops saw it too and was pissed. So was I. Luckily, I think the game was fairly called in all of the other areas.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Also, if not for the capability to challenge, UK would have undoubtedly lost when the initial call was down by contact on the Ole Miss fumble deep in Ole Miss territory.
They would have at least scored 3 and probably 7 and thus won the game.

That was the 1st of 3 miracle plays UK got to win the game.

One, the Ole Miss player fumbling deep in their own territory while both knees landed on the UK defender and not the ground. Two, 4th and 7th bomb to BB, and three, Kattus fumble recovery at the goal line.

If just one of the above 3 miracles doesn’t occur, we lose.

 

[Mike-McD]

Yes they were shorting us and favoring Ole Miss. Stoops saw it too and was pissed. So was I. Luckily, I think the game was fairly called in all of the other areas.

So...MOSTLY fair?

 

[YardCat]

On the road we seem to get unfavorable spots most of the time. Stoops knows and I’m sure he sends in tape every week to the SEC.

 

[The-Hack]

On the road we seem to get unfavorable spots most of the time. Stoops knows and I’m sure he sends in tape every week to the SEC.

I haven’t noticed it consistently.

The bright yellow electronic first down line on TV made it especially obvious. Jackson Dart ran to the yellow line at least once in the second half, his knee and 80-85 percent of his body were clearly behind the yellow line; essentially only his head and neck were on or passed the yellow line. He got the first down.

Our backs had the ball removed from their hands like at the 34 yard line and the ref very obviously (right next to the players body still on the ground) backed the spot to the 35 yard line. They have the excuse of a knee or other body part touching, but I didn’t see the proof on replays.

And ball placement is especially important for a conservative offensive philosophy. Mumme, Leach and high octane offenses just want the ball spotted quickly.

Our grind it out offense needs every yard it can get, and 15 or 20 short spots could cost us field goal range or worse throughout an exchange of punts/possessions.

 

[UKFBFan78]

Yes they were shorting us and favoring Ole Miss. Stoops saw it too and was pissed. So was I. Luckily, I think the game was fairly called in all of the other areas.

I remember 1 play were they gave ole miss almost 5 yards after he went out of bounds and no one said anything. He was clearly out of bounds.

 

[docholiday51]

For the first time since the 2019 Belk Bowl, I thought the refs consistently marked Kentucky a half yard (or more) short of where the ball was located in the offensive player’s hands.

Sure, they are supposed to mark it where a knee or elbow (etc.) lands and not give credit for an extra foot or two if the body part landed before the offensive player stretches out.

But we all watch a lot of college ball and know that 90 percent of the time, the offensive player is sort of given the benefit of the doubt, and the ball marked where the ball was in his grasp when tackled.

I felt there were 5 or 6 obvious spots where our player had crossed a five yard lateral mark by at least a half yard, only to see the ball spotted a foot from the five yard lateral mark.

?????

From watching a lot of CFB and NFL this season I think refs are spotting the ball short on a regular basis, or at least more than I remember in recent years. Also do they not measure for 1st downs anymore, have seen very few measurements all season

 

[katwest]

I've noticed that the last two games, the ref spots the ball at least 3 to 6 inches short of where it should be for us a lot. The other teams may get the same kind of spot, but it's not as obvious as our losing ground most of the time. Another thing I've noticed while watching other games is that the refs always call a quick touchdown for other teams when you really can't tell if they score or not on a goal line play. But even when it's obvious that we score, none of the refs call it and they review it ten times, then they MIGHT call it a touchdown. It's like they just hate to give it to us unless we take it 10 yards deep into the end zone.

 

[Lempface]

Yeah caught this too, and it's total BS. Refs are awful, lowest form of human life.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

I've noticed that the last two games, the ref spots the ball at least 3 to 6 inches short of where it should be for us a lot. The other teams may get the same kind of spot, but it's not as obvious as our losing ground most of the time. Another thing I've noticed while watching other games is that the refs always call a quick touchdown for other teams when you really can't tell if they score or not on a goal line play. But even when it's obvious that we score, none of the refs call it and they review it ten times, then they MIGHT call it a touchdown. It's like they just hate to give it to us unless we take it 10 yards deep into the end zone.

I’m certain Ohio didn’t cross the goal line on their score in that game. Maybe they would have as it was only like second down I think, but they didn’t cross the goal line when they gave them the points. No review.

 

[docholiday51]

I haven’t noticed it consistently.

The bright yellow electronic first down line on TV made it especially obvious. Jackson Dart ran to the yellow line at least once in the second half, his knee and 80-85 percent of his body were clearly behind the yellow line; essentially only his head and neck were on or passed the yellow line. He got the first down.

Our backs had the ball removed from their hands like at the 34 yard line and the ref very obviously (right next to the players body still on the ground) backed the spot to the 35 yard line. They have the excuse of a knee or other body part touching, but I didn’t see the proof on replays.

And ball placement is especially important for a conservative offensive philosophy. Mumme, Leach and high octane offenses just want the ball spotted quickly.

Our grind it out offense needs every inch it can get, and 15 or 20 short spots could cost us field goal range or worse throughout an exchange of punts/possessions.

There fixed it ,you can thank me later

 

[CRZ4UK]

Also, if not for the capability to challenge, UK would have undoubtedly lost when the initial call was down by contact on the Ole Miss fumble deep in Ole Miss territory.
They would have at least scored 3 and probably 7 and thus won the game.

That was the 1st of 3 miracle plays UK got to win the game.

One, the Ole Miss player fumbling deep in their own territory while both knees landed on the UK defender and not the ground. Two, 4th and 7th bomb to BB, and three, Kattus fumble recovery at the goal line.

If just one of the above 3 miracles doesn’t occur, we lose.

Don’t forget the overturned catch. I didn’t think it was a catch. I never thought they would overturn it though.