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Diallo Entering Draft... Not hiring agent

Oh no, it cost UK money. I expect you've already emailed Dr. Cap about the scholarships UK awarded to students who dropped out this spring.

Name the recruits we were after that we didn't get because we landed Diallo instead.

If Diallo was going to go pro regardless, it at least looks better to Bamba that we stood by his friend as he chased his dream. You don't think Cal is on top of this?
Nope. Yes, I hate wasting resources. You're asking me to prove a negative. It is enough that we probaby won't have a top rated 2 guard next year.
 
Boy, these threads always bring out the trolls.

I hate the power the NCAA holds over players and I'm all for guys realizing their dream, but I don't blame ANY fan for being frustrated when players leave, especially fringe second round draft picks, guys that may not even be drafted or never played a game. I completely get the frustration and am not calling them trolls.
 
The best thing to do as Diallo tests the waters is to immediately start sending him severe hatred on Twitter, etc. That way he will know that he'd better come back.

Wait...
 
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Basically everyone got played..short, sweet, simple. Not here to write a novel...



"Got played" ????

That is your rebuttal?


So you wouldn't have signed your top recruit?

Your #1 need next year?

Let him enroll early with all of the departures next year?

Because even though he didnt feel ready to play all season, he just MIGHT test the NBA???

Is that what you are saying?
 
I didn't think he had that attitude..where did you see It? A lot of our 1 year guys no they are leaving before the year is over, that mean they are all bad leaders?
Well he definitely had that attitude, don't know how you missed it. And freshman usually aren't team leaders that takes a special player like MKG or Knight.
 
Coach K is a better coach than Cal. Roy Williams is a better coach than Cal. Calhoun was a better coach than Coach Cal. Sorry if that offends any of you, but I"m basing it on their whole body of work.

The Ollie loss hurts a lot because Cal is most certainly a vastly superior coach to him. If UK is fully healthy I feel they win that game, same with Poy in 2015. That's probably two titles Cal most likely haves if not for injuries.
Same thing you would do if I hadn't commented probably. People were giving opinions on the subject so I did, keep scrolling if you don't agree little fella
I agree. Signing One and dones are fine but you also have to build a roster. Everyone else has done it.
 
Like I said, if Cal really came to him he would have played. You can't tell me he wouldn't have. Maybe at the beginning of his time here. But you can't tell me before the sec tournament he would have turned down playing time.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't he offered playing time after the season was underway, but he declined?
Pretty sure that was reported by the coaching staff/cal.
 
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Coach K is a better coach than Cal. Roy Williams is a better coach than Cal. Calhoun was a better coach than Coach Cal. Sorry if that offends any of you, but I"m basing it on their whole body of work.

The Ollie loss hurts a lot because Cal is most certainly a vastly superior coach to him. If UK is fully healthy I feel they win that game, same with Poy in 2015. That's probably two titles Cal most likely haves if not for injuries.
Williams isn't a better coach. Coach K and Calhoun you can say yes they are. But weren't ever going to get any of those three as our coach anyway were we?
 
That statement is just incorrect, the kid said publicly multiple times he was coming back.

just a month ago:

'The experience, he says, made him hungrier for next season. While he will be eligible for the NBA draft, Diallo speaks as if he's ready to lead the Wildcats in 2017-18.

"I know what the bigger goal is, so I'm just focused and trying to buckle down and get ready for next season," he said.'


Also please name the stud SG we could have gotten if not for Diallo?



Again, the #1 SG, our #1 recruit at the time. And because Cal signed him and let him commit early you guys are mad at Cal?


I understand the frustration of not having him next year. I feel the same.

But the anger is so misguided.




I personally wouldn’t be mad at Cal for any of the reasons you presented.

If Diallo stays in the draft, I’d be slightly disappointed in Cal for making his discussions with Diallo public back in January by stating that he told him not to come here if he was not going to stick around in ’17-18.

Cal knows the fans by now. If there has been a strong chance of Diallo bolting - which only Cal and Diallo's circle would be aware of, why put that info out there and get our hopes up (if that's the case, which I still doubt)? We’ve mostly supported Cal through every decision he’s made here. We defend him before all detractors. We embrace the constant player turnover and faithfully support our players in their decisions (most of us). That being the case, if Diallo/Cal knew there was a strong chance of his leaving at season's end and staying in the draft, the simple solution would be to not present something to the fans when it came to those discussions - even if some of them were reported by Diallo or leaked by others outside of Cal. I get that the program is players-first, and I support that. But fan expectations do matter at some point and if Diallo leaves, Cal could have gone a long way by simply saying there was a strong chance Diallo might not even play for Kentucky in ’17-18.

I don’t think this is an unreasonable response narrative in the case where Diallo stays in the draft.

 
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Coach K is a better coach than Cal. Roy Williams is a better coach than Cal. Calhoun was a better coach than Coach Cal. Sorry if that offends any of you, but I"m basing it on their whole body of work.

The Ollie loss hurts a lot because Cal is most certainly a vastly superior coach to him. If UK is fully healthy I feel they win that game, same with Poy in 2015. That's probably two titles Cal most likely haves if not for injuries.

Dont effing dare put Roy Williams on that list. Absolutely proven he's cheated for 2 of his titles and shouldnt of been playing for the one they got this year. If UK systematically cheated like UNC did....... Cal would have 3 or more titles guaranteed.
 
Probably. However I'm not as confident as others in Diallo returning. Have we had many players "test the waters" then return?

The twins, Willie, Dakari, Lee, Briscoe, Ulis, Poythress--basically anyone who wasn't one and done since the new rule that allowed kids to do this.
 
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"Got played" ????

That is your rebuttal?


So you wouldn't have signed your top recruit?

Your #1 need next year?

Let him enroll early with all of the departures next year?

Because even though he didnt feel ready to play all season, he just MIGHT test the NBA???

Is that what you are saying?

Not if the plan was to leave without SEEING the court. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. We have different opinions.
 
So he isn't ready to play at UK but is ready to play in NBA? Your logic is off buddy.


I never said he wasn't ready to play.

Your reading comprehension is off.

He said he wasn't ready as did his high school coach.

I have no idea, I would think he could have been ready by tourney time maybe, but what would that have done to our rotation, we were on one of the best winning streaks at the time...?
 
Sorry I dont give a like to every post like your buddy brianpoe. Answer for what???[/QUOTE
Probably. However I'm not as confident as others in Diallo returning. Have we had many players "test the waters" then return?
Cal stated a couple of years ago that he incouraged and sometimes insisted that players test the waters in order to get free feedback from unbiased sources about what they need to work on. I expect him to return but if he doesn't then I wish him good luck.QUOTE]
 
I personally wouldn’t be mad at Cal for any of the reasons you presented.

If Diallo stays in the draft, I’d be slightly disappointed in Cal for making his discussions with Diallo public back in January by stating that he told him not to come here if he was not going to stick around in ’17-18.

Cal knows the fans by now. If there has been a strong chance of Diallo bolting - which only Cal and Diallo's circle would be aware of, why put that info out there and get our hopes up (if that's the case, which I still doubt)? We’ve mostly supported Cal through every decision he’s made here. We defend him before all detractors. That being the case, if Diallo/Cal knew there was a strong chance of his leaving at season's end and staying in the draft, the simple solution would be to not present something to the fans when it came to those discussions - even if some of them were reported by Diallo or leaked by others outside of Cal. I get that the program is players-first, and I support that. But fan expectations do matter at some point and if Diallo leaves, Cal could have gone a long way by simply saying there was a strong chance Diallo might not even play for Kentucky in ’17-18.

I don’t think this is an unreasonable response narrative in the case where Diallo stays in the draft.
Great post.
 
Nobody should be surprised by this. HOWEVER, this guy is on a basketball scholarship at the University of Kentucky. As such, he should've been integrated into the program for 3 weeks or so and then started to actually PLAY IN GAMES. That is part of the deal if a person is on BASKETBALL SCHOLARSHIP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY. IMO.
 
That was random. :joy:
I think he was promoting the NBA or bust mentality this year, which in turn helped ppl like hump/Diallo/WG think about leaving this year when they shouldn't. Also this is the first year you heard about everyone checking the mock drafts for their status, I'm sure briscoe had them saved in his bookmarks
 
There are at least 12 guards ahead of Diallo in the draft already. These guards have a body of work to which they can be evaluated. Diallo doesn't, I find it very hard to believe he will be drafted in the top 10...Now if we waits til 2018, I see him as one of the top 5 players. He is using all the available opportunities to evaluate himself, to learn what it would take to make HIS DREAM a REALITY. if anyone on this board told you they wouldn't do anything to make their dreams come true are either lying or absolutely lazy.
 
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I've said this exact same thing very politely numerous times and the majority of posters jump my ass like I stole something from them. I'm glad to see I'm not the Lone Ranger here. I like Cal but his 'players first', 'greatest day in UK basketball history' stuff is something I dislike a great deal. This crap is getting stupid. We have bench warmers declaring for the draft and now we've got this kid who's never played one second for us and some say he wouldn't even start next year.

I swear I don't know how some of you guys function with such a profound lack of understanding simple concepts. This does NOT mean he won't be back. Why don't you wait until we know before you go out on that ledge? Jesus.
 
Think the smart move development wise and money wise is to come back.

But Cal took a chance by bringing him in in hopes it would pay off with a possible years play. If it doesn't I'm still happy Cal took that chance and if you asked me the day before he came aboard, do you want to do this with Hami and take this chance? The easy answer is yes.
 
Why would a player not go to the workouts and get feedback? That only helps you know what you need to work on to get ready for next year.
 
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That statement is just incorrect, the kid said publicly multiple times he was coming back.

just a month ago:

'The experience, he says, made him hungrier for next season. While he will be eligible for the NBA draft, Diallo speaks as if he's ready to lead the Wildcats in 2017-18.

"I know what the bigger goal is, so I'm just focused and trying to buckle down and get ready for next season," he said.'


Also please name the stud SG we could have gotten if not for Diallo?



Again, the #1 SG, our #1 recruit at the time. And because Cal signed him and let him commit early you guys are mad at Cal?


I understand the frustration of not having him next year. I feel the same.

But the anger is so misguided.

At this point.. playing this out that Diallo does leave.. I'm more mad at the kid, and as far as Cal as concerned, it was just a dumb move. I would be mad at him if he continues this none-and-done route... but no reason to assume he would.. because no matter what the defenders of this say, this does hurt us, and it wasted a lot of time.. If Diallo leaves, many people are going to be pissed and Cal is going to have to answer some questions.. I would bet this is the last time he does this..
 
When was the last time a US player was drafted in first round without ever playing a game above the aau level ?
 
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Nope. Yes, I hate wasting resources. You're asking me to prove a negative. It is enough that we probaby won't have a top rated 2 guard next year.

I'm asking you to back up a claim. If it's a negative, that should tell you something.
 
You are wrong not me but whatever helps you sleep at night
Another link that states as many times as they want is the NCAA rule while the NBA says you can only withdraw twice and become automatically eligible in the next draft following your second withdrawal meaning when the rules are combined you may enter the draft 3 times before having to stay in. I don't really give a crap what you think anyway. Sour grapes because we took your guy taints your opinion. You're tainted. What helps me sleep at night is having a great BB program at UK and not worrying about getting players or having to play in some second tier conference that we can't win.

http://www.greenberglawoffice.com/nba-draft-2016-early-entry-rules-and-deadlines/
 
Not if the plan was to leave without SEEING the court. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. We have different opinions.


Whoever said that was the plan?

So many people here think they know so much, and yet prove they know nothing.

Cal would not take the kid if that was the plan. You have to be dense to think Cal would jeopardize recruiting, that makes ZERO sense.

He is players first for UK kids, he's not responsible for EVERY HS player.

Diallo stated he was playing for UK next year.

We all knew he would test the waters.
 
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