Take a few minutes and watch this.
Totally nails the BIGGEST FAULTS with Cal!
Totally nails the BIGGEST FAULTS with Cal!
Dan Patrick NAILS it
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It’s time to stop talking about ways to “fix” what Calipari is doing and just end it.
That old dog ain’t learning new tricks. Cal was terribly stubborn even as a young coach, and even worse now. He may talk about making big meaningful changes, but he won’t actually do it.
It’s just time for this era to end. 15 years is more than enough. The first six years were awesome …thanks Cal for that …but it’s misery now. And he ain’t gonna fix it. We need a fresh start and a new era. Period.
That old dog ain’t learning new tricks. Cal was terribly stubborn even as a young coach, and even worse now. He may talk about making big meaningful changes, but he won’t actually do it.
It’s just time for this era to end. 15 years is more than enough. The first six years were awesome …thanks Cal for that …but it’s misery now. And he ain’t gonna fix it. We need a fresh start and a new era. Period.
Good listen, but as Kentucky fans nothing we didn't know. Nice to hear it from a different source.
Like he said at the end, the first half gave Oakland confidence and that’s all they needed. This is why who you start does matter!
Sports is a lot of mental. As a coach you should wanna throw the first punch. Kill them first mentally then the rest will take care of itself. But when he allows us to get down 12-4 every game, the other team starts believing they can win and they can at that point.
Sports is a lot of mental. As a coach you should wanna throw the first punch. Kill them first mentally then the rest will take care of itself. But when he allows us to get down 12-4 every game, the other team starts believing they can win and they can at that point.
Proof is our offense against Oakland. We went back to the post offense and you can't beat a team hot from 3 with poor interior passing, missed close shots, the wrong people like D.J. or Mitchell taking the 3's, etc. People who say starting doesn't matter. Well, it prevented Sheppard and Dillingham from getting any rhythm and again a terrible offense to start. The poor offense Oakland showed in the beginning we literally could have put them away from the start. Instead, we matched their poor play and that forced post play wasted so many possessions.
The stubborn behavior, the I am right and everyone else is wrong, the favoritism (or back door promises in recruiting on starting) all have lead over and over to failure. UK 90 and UK 78 are on the same page.....it's not going to change and Cal needs to go.
Amazing, and almost ironic.
Tubby wouldn't recruit. Ho hum, coach, develop individuals and team over time was getting left behind they said. Move on all you old fogie basketball COACHES who don't recruit.
To be fair there was some truth to that. There was a 10 year stretch post NBA age rule where you really had to kiss ass, play the recruiting game, ingratiate yourself to not only the player but AAU circuit, handlers, that whole scene.
Now, the pendulum has swung back.
You're not going to advance with spoiled 18 year olds who have come up in the elite all star/aau circuits, who are focused on the league, in a tournament full of 21-22 year old dudes who have honed their craft for 3-4 years.
College ball is not pro ball it's very different. The coaches who are recruiting, developing, and coaching for college game are having the most success. Likewise for players. The 99.9 percent of dudes who aren't going pro, the 4 years is all they have. The want it more, compared to the handful of guys who are eyeing the league. They've put more into the game because they have to.
Tubby wouldn't recruit. Ho hum, coach, develop individuals and team over time was getting left behind they said. Move on all you old fogie basketball COACHES who don't recruit.
To be fair there was some truth to that. There was a 10 year stretch post NBA age rule where you really had to kiss ass, play the recruiting game, ingratiate yourself to not only the player but AAU circuit, handlers, that whole scene.
Now, the pendulum has swung back.
You're not going to advance with spoiled 18 year olds who have come up in the elite all star/aau circuits, who are focused on the league, in a tournament full of 21-22 year old dudes who have honed their craft for 3-4 years.
College ball is not pro ball it's very different. The coaches who are recruiting, developing, and coaching for college game are having the most success. Likewise for players. The 99.9 percent of dudes who aren't going pro, the 4 years is all they have. The want it more, compared to the handful of guys who are eyeing the league. They've put more into the game because they have to.
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Nothing will change till those with deep pockets threaten to take their money elsewhere.
The Bennies were right and the SOB mocked us.
Cals 1st goal is to get the guys to the NBA. He has said thi himself. His 1st goal shoukd be to win championships at UK. This is his #1 problem.
As others have said, Dan Patrick gets it.
Many on this forum have gotten it for years
Its not complicated
Time for change….
Many on this forum have gotten it for years
Its not complicated
Time for change….
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Exactly, this year we totally changed our offensive philosophy. Our best offensive game came playing Georgia in Z’s first game. We looked unstoppable. What happened in March. In both our games he trotted out ineffective lineups, played big men, and ran the ball in the post like every other year. What did it get us? A team that easily scored 90 a game all year struggled to hit 75 and beat both games.
Cal needs to start coaching. Teams are doing the same thing over and over and over. We can’t defend PNR and we haven’t been able to for years, that’s coaching. We have 3 seven footers and not one of them can play defense. We block 5 shots per game, but how many do we not block and how many fouls do we commit to do it. If a team plays a defense other than man we are clueless about attacking it.
Exactly, these moron media sheep aren't saying anything of substance or making anything happen. No different than the folks here with their "if Cal would just bla bla bla" posts. END IT.
The only way Cal can be forced to change is to:
* committee give Cal list of *3 or *4 players he can recruit
* forbid Cal from attending Draft Night
* schedule of opponents be made out for him by admin or someone removed from his close network
* hire two assistant coaches, one for offense and one for defense
HE WOULD NEVER BE OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE IT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF HIS NBA AGENDA
* committee give Cal list of *3 or *4 players he can recruit
* forbid Cal from attending Draft Night
* schedule of opponents be made out for him by admin or someone removed from his close network
* hire two assistant coaches, one for offense and one for defense
HE WOULD NEVER BE OKAY WITH IT BECAUSE IT WOULD GET IN THE WAY OF HIS NBA AGENDA
Cal is an 8-track in a cassette world
It's hard to know if UCONN is the model or whether the one and done is truly over. It is hard to know because we play with simplicity -- if we took the current team and played with much better strategies and fundamentals maybe it would work.
The other issue with Cal saying he is going to change -- most likely that means he will only look at his personnel in some different way -- it doesn't mean he will also look internally on how we can be a masterclass in coaching versus what the current state of what seems to be a continuous disaster class in coaching.
Patrick talks about how Sheppard didn't do anything -- and agreed his worst game this year -- but he has so far never been a guy that created on his own much -- and Oakland stifled UK with the zone and so the spacing wasn't coming as easily for him -- but coach did nothing to get him open shots in the first half and get him going. He didn't even come in the game till 4 min had past (as usual) -- and the beginning phase was really important--- Oakland was cold - if UK starts its best players and we have a game plan to get the 3 R's shots maybe we take a lead rather than a tie game after the first 5 minutes. Could have changed the whole complexion of the game -- and maybe Shep gets loosened up and plays with more confidence as well. Will never know for sure -- but once again we just never seem to put ourselves in the best position to win.
The other issue with Cal saying he is going to change -- most likely that means he will only look at his personnel in some different way -- it doesn't mean he will also look internally on how we can be a masterclass in coaching versus what the current state of what seems to be a continuous disaster class in coaching.
Patrick talks about how Sheppard didn't do anything -- and agreed his worst game this year -- but he has so far never been a guy that created on his own much -- and Oakland stifled UK with the zone and so the spacing wasn't coming as easily for him -- but coach did nothing to get him open shots in the first half and get him going. He didn't even come in the game till 4 min had past (as usual) -- and the beginning phase was really important--- Oakland was cold - if UK starts its best players and we have a game plan to get the 3 R's shots maybe we take a lead rather than a tie game after the first 5 minutes. Could have changed the whole complexion of the game -- and maybe Shep gets loosened up and plays with more confidence as well. Will never know for sure -- but once again we just never seem to put ourselves in the best position to win.
The issue isn't the one and done, it's lack of coaching.
There were 6 minutes left in the first half before Reed or Rod took a shot!! That's coaching malpractice 101.
We knew Cal would revert back to his traditional post offense in March. I had been telling people all year that he was going to go back to it and he did. We have to be the easiest team in college basketball to scout. Any coach that doesn't zone us for 90% of the game is not a good coach because we have never figured out how to attack it.
It's both. You can't have a roster full of OAD's and expect to win anything of substance. You can have a couple and surround them with veterans who know how to win when it counts.
Cal is an egotistical dipshit. He isn’t changing. He believes he knows best. Always has. Always will.
Yeah, let me add that similar to last year, we ran no screens for our 3-point best shooters. I kept thinking about Jeff Sheppard and his hitting 3 after 3 with the simple screen and curl in the Final Four. Not one time did we do that and a zone defense would have been perfect to challenge. Plus, as typical of the lack of coaching instruction during a game how often did we pass AROUND the zone to get the defense out of position? Nope. Dribble drive b.s. and then a post pass to get picked off or a close in miss. I also had suggested in a post here prior to the game that I hoped Cal was instructing on rebounding that to expect longer bounces and so not position right by the basket. NOPE. Again a coaching 101 not done. How many second and third chance rebounds to Oakland get by our not doing that. The days of "make a play, or fight" are over. That's the best Cal can do? Time to go.
Dan is one of Cal’s buddies.
He is even calling Caesar out!
He is even calling Caesar out!
I was super bored last night and I watched a lot of what the alternative sports media was saying.
Skip Bayless had some actual interesting takes.
Most are trying to "fix" what Cal can do.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF CAL HAS a #1 CLASS NOR THE TOP TRANSFER PORTAL
If he can't do it with this years team with a great balance of freshman, sophomores and seniors or Oscar's team, he just can't do it. He's done.
Skip Bayless had some actual interesting takes.
Most are trying to "fix" what Cal can do.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF CAL HAS a #1 CLASS NOR THE TOP TRANSFER PORTAL
If he can't do it with this years team with a great balance of freshman, sophomores and seniors or Oscar's team, he just can't do it. He's done.
75% of the fanbase is asking for his head, it will only make him more determined to stay imo. He has us on the brink of being IU and UL and is too blind to see it. Or his ego is seeing it but his pride won't allow him to walk away. Sad
Everybody seems to see it. It's over here. Cal will not really change. His ego runs everything.
Wouldn't start his 2 best players. Won't work on different defenses. Won't press at all. Reed and Rob proved he is not coaching at a high level.
Wouldn't start his 2 best players. Won't work on different defenses. Won't press at all. Reed and Rob proved he is not coaching at a high level.
Didnt know they were buddies...
Explains why he wasn't mean or ugly about it... just laid out some issues that everyone knows already
But he said it...
He might be a fairly good, part-time psychologist in getting several, young superstar egos to blend over a season...
But,
I'm more convinced now than ever he is just a "roll the ball out" coach, as others have said
But,
I'm more convinced now than ever he is just a "roll the ball out" coach, as others have said
It's the entire Cal brand that needs to be killed off. He has been at UK since 2009. What recruits know of Kentucky is just Cal's Kentucky, synonymous with "Go here and get out" type mentality. Kentucky thrived for decades without having the best recruiting classes and rosters loaded with NBA All-Stars. I cringe wondering how many members on that 1998 Kentucky team that Cal would've scoffed at recruiting and playing if it were today.
It needs a new direction; a new brand. It needs to be more about Kentucky and less about Calipari and his ego.
Then he should go to the NBA then where that's more the style. He's certainly not best for the college game.
Cal's way of life ended almost nine years ago in 2015.
Exactly. We could have won big with the guys we had if he just would just commit to real bread and butter fundamental details coaching. But Cal WONT do that. I didn’t say can’t I said WONT.
He thinks the X and O detail stuff is for nerds and Bennies and he refuses to lower himself. He thought he could generalize and theorize and make it up as he goes like a jazz musician but he can’t.
The sad part is I think he knows that now himself but his stubbornness painted him in a corner to wear he can’t change now because it would mean giving in to the Bennies and admitting he may have been wrong on some things and they may have been right.
But there is no question freshman or not this team with coaching could have won big
According to some, the bennies were only on this board..... 90% of the fan base supported Cal, and this board is where the only critics were.... there were like 10 here that ALWAYS said this....
I think it has to be more than 75%... I know of no one who supports him...
I don’t know if Cal ever understood this program but I know for sure he doesn’t now.
He talks so much crap about making dreams come true yadda yadda but he’s making the wrong dream come true. These kids are going to the NBA with or without Cal. It doesn’t matter if they come to Kentucky, he isn’t making any dream of theirs come true that wasn’t already written in the stars
But you know who’s dream he forget about, if he ever cared in the first place? The little kid in the trailer park in Eastern Ky who is going to get made fun of his whole life because he talks funny, because he’s poor, because people think he’s stupid. You know what they can’t make fun of that kid about…UK basketball because we have the best program in the world and we know the game. So while the rest of the world treats Kentucky like Americas armpit in every other metric that can’t say ish to us about basketball.
But now they can because we suck and Cal cares more about being a pit stop for a kid in who cares where, who will never step foot back in this state after he gets to the NBA. Someone needs to remind him his job is to win basketball games not be another G league team.
He talks so much crap about making dreams come true yadda yadda but he’s making the wrong dream come true. These kids are going to the NBA with or without Cal. It doesn’t matter if they come to Kentucky, he isn’t making any dream of theirs come true that wasn’t already written in the stars
But you know who’s dream he forget about, if he ever cared in the first place? The little kid in the trailer park in Eastern Ky who is going to get made fun of his whole life because he talks funny, because he’s poor, because people think he’s stupid. You know what they can’t make fun of that kid about…UK basketball because we have the best program in the world and we know the game. So while the rest of the world treats Kentucky like Americas armpit in every other metric that can’t say ish to us about basketball.
But now they can because we suck and Cal cares more about being a pit stop for a kid in who cares where, who will never step foot back in this state after he gets to the NBA. Someone needs to remind him his job is to win basketball games not be another G league team.
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