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An SEC Championship?
An SEC Championship?
Let's get a runner up in the SEC East first.An SEC Championship?
Last time it happened, we had guys like Ramsey, Still, Bryant that made it big in the NFL.Maybe one day.
He would need a great team with a stand out Heisman type player.
Who says it is unthinkable? Our fans have to overcome that way of looking at this.An SEC Championship?
when the players think they can win the SEC and the State produces a few really good players that choose U.K. Then it would be doable.I think we have a legitimate shot at the East this year but getting by Bama would be a Herculean task that I do not feel we have the talent for - yet. An upset of a team loaded with 5 star talent in a championship game would be an enormous, yet very unlikely upset.
I think you assume too much in assuming he leaves just because we post a 10 win season and win the East, or something to that effect.Let's assume Stoops trajectory continues: he will not be here when Saban retires, he will have moved on to a bigger job. If stoops does move on that means he's accomplished a lot and that means we have to hit a home run on next coaching hire. At this point Saban will begin to age out and the doors may open up. What if we're a top 20 program by that point and grab the next Dabo?
Bottom line, I don't think Stoops has the time frame to do so, but his successor might. Stoops legacy may be the distinction of taking a snake bitten program and pushing them into relevance, and honestly that may be more impressive than winning a sec title itself.
I think you assume too much in assuming he leaves just because we post a 10 win season and win the East, or something to that effect.
Not as long as Saban is at Bamba......when was the last time the East champion was competitive in the championship game?
Like beating #1 ranked LSU?I think we have a legitimate shot at the East this year but getting by Bama would be a Herculean task that I do not feel we have the talent for - yet. An upset of a team loaded with 5 star talent in a championship game would be an enormous, yet very unlikely upset.
Right now our offense is good enough to win maybe eight or nine games. Our defensive line and special teams limit us to plus or minus six.
Probably average out to be six or seven wins unless Higgins begins to ref football games.
2012, we were inside the 5 going in for win and ran out of time.
Any SEC East team winning the SEC is pretty unthinkable right now.
I think you may be overestimating your offense a little and underestimating your defense a little. UK's passing game is much like UGA, returning stats basically mirror each other in yards, completion %, TDs, ints. Neither of us have a returning WR who will make a DB nervous, while both of us have guys who haven't played much or any at all we are counting on, The passing game is a huge concern for us. On the other hand both of us have good/great production at RB. Snell is a very good back, if Chubb is back to 100% and he apears to be, I wouldn't trade backs with any team in the country.
But on the other side, UK returns alot of proven talent on the defense, their starting LB unit is very good, don't know about your depth but lots talk about Daniels being physical, but the first 4 are very good. Secondary has some good players and bring alot of experience. The front catches some grief but they are an experienced group and should be better.
From the outside it looks like you are basing your projections of the offense off potential at WR, certainly not Snell because he is proven and not giving enough credit to a defense that won 7 games for you last year.
Granted, someone must catch the ball. We have someone who can throw and use his legs. The offensive line looks to be good. So your point about the wide receivers is worrisome.
The second and third tier defense looks solid. They may have to be. Don't stop the run and you know what happens next. We proved that last year with our ground game against the competition. Chubb and Snell are key for both teams for ball control and forcing the other team to load the box.
No. The basketball only fans don't want three total SEC championships in football overshadowing their 50.
"Let's assume?" Why?Let's assume Stoops trajectory continues: he will not be here when Saban retires, he will have moved on to a bigger job. If stoops does move on that means he's accomplished a lot and that means we have to hit a home run on next coaching hire. At this point Saban will begin to age out and the doors may open up. What if we're a top 20 program by that point and grab the next Dabo?
Bottom line, I don't think Stoops has the time frame to do so, but his successor might. Stoops legacy may be the distinction of taking a snake bitten program and pushing them into relevance, and honestly that may be more impressive than winning a sec title itself.
"Let's assume?" Why?
Honestly, probably not. Until UK can beat UT and FL in football they won't win the SEC East and won't have a chance to compete for the SEC Championship. We need to get better players overall, and are working in that direction, but still have a ways to go. And even if UK wins the East you probably have an Alabama there waiting. Good luck.
Let's assume Stoops trajectory continues: he will not be here when Saban retires, he will have moved on to a bigger job. If stoops does move on that means he's accomplished a lot and that means we have to hit a home run on next coaching hire. At this point Saban will begin to age out and the doors may open up. What if we're a top 20 program by that point and grab the next Dabo?
Bottom line, I don't think Stoops has the time frame to do so, but his successor might. Stoops legacy may be the distinction of taking a snake bitten program and pushing them into relevance, and honestly that may be more impressive than winning a sec title itself.
No. The basketball only fans don't want three total SEC championships in football overshadowing their 50.
A few yards from a SEC and national title. I bet that hurts still 5 years later. UGA would have beaten ND by 2-3 TDs easily, if not more IMO.
UKWildcats#8 I think you are right on in your comments. You have identified our major obstacles and we haven't overcome them yet. Sure could happen if Stoops continues with his building process but not sure when that might happen or if it will happen while he is here.
SubbornPenny Soon as I read your post I thought immediately of Rich Brooks and what he did at Oregon. He built up a terrible football program and created the foundation for what would happen at UO which put them in two national championship game appearances. If that sort of thing can happen at Oregon, not a traditional football power it could happen at UK. Stoops could be our Brooks that builds the foundation for future success. I think you have hit on a good comparison.
LOL! I DID think about it and I disagree with you. As a UL fan, you assess UK's football program differently from the way I assess it. We don't need to make assumptions. The thread asks whether Stoops COULD win an SEC title. This calls for a PROJECTION, not an assumption. I ASSUME any SEC team can win the title under the right circumstances. But I can PROJECT that Stoops is already on that kind of an upward path. Stoops has already demonstrated an ability to recruit at a high level, win SEC road games, beat Louisville in the Pizza House (ouch!), and play competitively with almost every SEC team (although, so far, not Alabama, LSU, Florida, Tennessee yet). I can PROJECT that Stoops' recruiting momentum and his team's ability to win competitive games is accelerating. On this path, either he will eventually hit a wall, or else he will eventually take Kentucky to an SEC title game. I can PROJECT this without specifically taking into consideration what is happening in Knoxville and Athens, although those independent factors make it even more likely.because with the topic of this thread, "can stoops win a SEC title," you have to assume his trajectory will continue upwards. Obviously if it goes any other way he WON'T win a SEC title. You can't have any further discussion in this thread without assuming he'll get better and better. Think about it.