Let's face it... US soccer consists of men who are too unathletic to play real sports. The end.
Copa America
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Gregg is trash. We have zero attacking patterns of play. The Euro and this Copa have shown how easy it is to set up an international team. Defend, pack the middle of the park, play through the wide channels.
Garbage.
Garbage.
Berhalter has to go. Losing like this while hosting the tournament is a massive black eye. We needed to advance and win a game in elimination play.
Unless you're the Dutch, you should never play a 4-3-3 in internationals. And not even the Dutch run a 4-3-3 anymore.
What a kick in the dick. Prime time games in the sports-hole of summer and we can’t get out of of our group. Just a shame. Urrbody has to go.
Worst "golden generation" ever.
It's astounding that even after all these years of supposed 'progress' we still don't have a top-75 player in the world.
It's astounding that even after all these years of supposed 'progress' we still don't have a top-75 player in the world.
Should've netted at least 4 goals against Bolivia, and losing at home to f*****g Panama is inexcusable. They simply had no room for error last night against an elite team and once again they lay an egg. Typical US Soccer. Based upon the current FIFA Rankings we were the third-best team in the tournament, above both Colombia and Uruguay, and couldn't even get out of the group stage.
Where are our elite soccer stars?
They’re all playing DB and WR in the NFL.
They’re all playing DB and WR in the NFL.
For a lot of countries, a lot, soccer is the most important sport in the country. For the USA, it is way down the list.
As long as that is the case, and it will always be the case, we will never do much on the big stage.
As long as that is the case, and it will always be the case, we will never do much on the big stage.
The American club system, pay to play, does nothing to identify athletic talent they can recruit and mold at an early age. Given we're so far beyond where the elite nations are, from a volume of elite players perspective, who's responsibility is it to cultivate players? USSF? Club teams? There are no open, formal, development opportunities.
In the pay to play model, you are basically eliminating the underserved communities. By the time the kids are high school age, they've missed out on formative development years in a system to be looked at by USSF.
The opposite is true for hoops. Every suburban kid has access to basketball and more suburban kids are showing out because they get exposed to coaching and playing early on more than ever.
Yes, the fact that almost all elite soccer programs are filled with kids named Bowman and Clay instead of Tavarius and Le'Jonafin is near the top of the reasons we suck.
The US has athletes to spare, but you can't wait until the fizzle out at lower level D1 football or basketball programs. They need to have been playing soccer for almost 15 years at that point
The US has athletes to spare, but you can't wait until the fizzle out at lower level D1 football or basketball programs. They need to have been playing soccer for almost 15 years at that point
Yup, go watch a youth basketball tournament and go watch a youth club soccer tournament and see what's different.
We've been thru this. It's like our modern school system. We throw the most money per kid than any other country in the world yet are ranked like 29.
It's not about money or talent. Kids in other countries grow up kicking a soccer ball 24/7 their whole childhood. In the streets, parking lots, home, wherever. They don't go thru basketball season then baseball season then travel ball baseball then all star basketball the aau basketball. Then play soccer then go back to something else.
They play soccer. That's it. It's a poor country's game for sure. More kids are playing soccer now because single moms don't want little Johnny getting hurt playing football.
Our entire infrastructure is designed around kids being involved in multiple extra curriculars and many not playing sports at all anymore.
Euro soccer has more revenue and structure for sure but they still concentrate on soccer almost exclusively. We don't.
It's not about money or talent. Kids in other countries grow up kicking a soccer ball 24/7 their whole childhood. In the streets, parking lots, home, wherever. They don't go thru basketball season then baseball season then travel ball baseball then all star basketball the aau basketball. Then play soccer then go back to something else.
They play soccer. That's it. It's a poor country's game for sure. More kids are playing soccer now because single moms don't want little Johnny getting hurt playing football.
Our entire infrastructure is designed around kids being involved in multiple extra curriculars and many not playing sports at all anymore.
Euro soccer has more revenue and structure for sure but they still concentrate on soccer almost exclusively. We don't.
Then at the high school level soccer needs to change to spring sport instead of fall.
The countries we’d like consider soccer contemporaries don’t have seasons. They just play soccer year round.
Most kids these days play their specific sports year round. You almost have to in order to be competitive these days. If you don't play your singular sport year round you're in danger of falling behind those that do. As a Physical Therapist (former Athletic Trainer), I've seen this first hand over the last decade or so. One research article that came out years ago estimated that overuse injuries has risen 150% from 2005-2015....likely because of this.
So year round soccer playing youths from poor countries have overuse injuries?
Even the players are starting to push back on the pro level. FIFA requires participation Country for World Cup, COPA/Euro/CONCACAF, Club with Champions League, MLS/Mex, plus in-country club tournaments, it's getting ridiculous and a money grab by FIFA. I think it might be Nations league where pushback is coming. They basically have a month off and too many games.
Bruno Fernandez may have played more minutes than any player in the last 4 years. His chances of breaking down are very good. Others have already broken down. It's nuts.
Bruno Fernandez may have played more minutes than any player in the last 4 years. His chances of breaking down are very good. Others have already broken down. It's nuts.
In March, I was in a hilltop neighborhood of Valparaiso, Chile where flat space is sparse. 5-6 early teens were playing on concrete in a section of a park that was less than a 1/4 of hoops court in size.
My youngest sisters oldest son…he played baseball for 10 years. Nothing but baseball. Travel baseball, all star baseball, regular season baseball. And when he wasn’t playing it was a personal hitting coach or athletic training or some other expensive BS. They probably spent 100k on baseball and by the time he got to be a sophomore in high school?
He was sick of it and quit playing. My sister and brother in law were upset but my nephew became a much happier young person.
I think that’s part of the reason I’ve come to believe that the Euro model is the best when it comes to youth sports. Identify the kids who have the potential or want to pursue things and bring them up through a system of qualified coaches and trainers and let the other kids who are less serious about it play for fun in little leagues and schools.
Absolutely.
The point of bringing up the rate of overuse injuries was to illustrate the shift in youth sport philosophy in modern times. When I was a kid, you would play multiple sports throughout the yr.........you don't get that nearly as much now. In fact, it's common to find modern coaches who will tell their kids not to play other sports and only focus on one.
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