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College isn't for everyone. New option for 1 & dones.

[/QUOTE]Glad I've never heard of any kids ending up broke after their playing days. That would be horrible.[/QUOTE]

As if years spent playing college is a guarantee of being financially responsible.

Like Jason Caffey- 4 years at Alabama, 8 years in the NBA, bankrupt. Or Derrick Coleman. 4 years at Syracuse (and eventually graduated), 15 years in the NBA, and broke. Or Rumeal Robinson, who was an incredible success story- tough background, academically ineligible, graduates from Michigan, makes the NBA- until he wasn't a success story, because he started spending money like a lunatic, eventually scamming almost everyone he knew. Or Scottie Pippen. Or Latrell Sprewell. Or Dennis Rodman. Or Vin Baker.

The best thing the NBA can do is try to educate its players about how easy it is for them to blow through their money, be that money from 1 rookie level contract, or a huge fortune accumulated over a long career. To try to act like you're saving players from themselves by forcing them to play a year in college is self-serving BS.
 
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Glad I've never heard of any kids ending up broke after their playing days. That would be horrible.[/QUOTE]

As if years spent playing college is a guarantee of being financially responsible.

Like Jason Caffey- 4 years at Alabama, 8 years in the NBA, bankrupt. Or Derrick Coleman. 4 years at Syracuse (and eventually graduated), 15 years in the NBA, and broke. Or Rumeal Robinson, who was an incredible success story- tough background, academically ineligible, graduates from Michigan, makes the NBA- until he wasn't a success story, because he started spending money like a lunatic, eventually scamming almost everyone he knew. Or Scottie Pippen. Or Latrell Sprewell. Or Dennis Rodman. Or Vin Baker.

The best thing the NBA can do is try to educate its players about how easy it is for them to blow through their money, be that money from 1 rookie level contract, or a huge fortune accumulated over a long career. To try to act like you're saving players from themselves by forcing them to play a year in college is self-serving BS.[/QUOTE]

Sarcasm is not your strong suit is it?
 
You make it sound so easy. Tell that to Lenny Cooke and the countless other guys that jumped from high school to have lackluster careers and quick exits. Playing ball for 5 figure salaries is not the aim of these burger boys. Not one of them would take this route if you told them it ended overseas. Also how are these guys going to coach anywhere other than AAU or middle school ball without a bachelor's degree and what NBA team do you know that will hire a player into their organization that had a marginal career? Like I said this idea will crash and burn.

It is pretty easy, fill out a college application...millions of people have done it.

Someone offers you $250K a year salary to do what you love doing, you really passing that up to go to college for a year or 2?

Of course there will be cases that it doesn't work out, but guess what - Lenny Cooke can go back and get a degree if he wants to. So it's not free, so he has to pay like the rest of us...so what, he's made more than a lot of people would in their first 10-20 years of working.

Tyron Lue had a marginal career and he's basically the head coach of the Cavs.

We can argue semantics all day long, but to think that most guys wouldn't take a hard look at this is foolish.
 
That's what is so great. All these kids who go pro are so financially responsible and set for life even if they only play for a few years. And then they all get high paying coaching jobs or TV jobs for those that want to work.

Glad I've never heard of any kids ending up broke after their playing days. That would be horrible.

Are you effing kidding me? Like this is an isolated problem with pro athletes...maybe you haven't seen stats on number of people living paycheck to paycheck, or who filed bankruptcy, or have little to no savings - college isn't going to fix that.
 
Are you effing kidding me? Like this is an isolated problem with pro athletes...maybe you haven't seen stats on number of people living paycheck to paycheck, or who filed bankruptcy, or have little to no savings - college isn't going to fix that.

Why is reading comprehension and following a thread so hard. My sarcastic (since you obviously missed that part) response was in reply to one that said that kids who do this and have marginal careers in NBA or overseas are set for life. They aren't.

You are correct, a large part of the population live paycheck to paycheck. Happy now.
 
Glad I've never heard of any kids ending up broke after their playing days. That would be horrible.

As if years spent playing college is a guarantee of being financially responsible.

Like Jason Caffey- 4 years at Alabama, 8 years in the NBA, bankrupt. Or Derrick Coleman. 4 years at Syracuse (and eventually graduated), 15 years in the NBA, and broke. Or Rumeal Robinson, who was an incredible success story- tough background, academically ineligible, graduates from Michigan, makes the NBA- until he wasn't a success story, because he started spending money like a lunatic, eventually scamming almost everyone he knew. Or Scottie Pippen. Or Latrell Sprewell. Or Dennis Rodman. Or Vin Baker.

The best thing the NBA can do is try to educate its players about how easy it is for them to blow through their money, be that money from 1 rookie level contract, or a huge fortune accumulated over a long career. To try to act like you're saving players from themselves by forcing them to play a year in college is self-serving BS.[/QUOTE]

Sarcasm is not your strong suit is it?[/QUOTE]
Apparently, it's not yours.

We're discussing kids skipping college to play minor league basketball for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Someone mentions that players who do this will have options if they don't pan out in the pros. You make your sarcastic response, which seems to imply that they won't, and you tie that into the numerous cases of athletes going broke.

I don't see how players taking this route would make them any more liable to go broke than guys who play in college. It's probably true that players who receive more education (real education, and not just basket-weaving 101, or no-show AFAM courses) are more likely to be financially responsible, but I also think it's true that players who come from a more solid middle-class background to begin with are more likely to value education, and that type of background might be a bigger factor than how many years (if any) they spend in college.
 
It is pretty easy, fill out a college application...millions of people have done it.

Someone offers you $250K a year salary to do what you love doing, you really passing that up to go to college for a year or 2?

Of course there will be cases that it doesn't work out, but guess what - Lenny Cooke can go back and get a degree if he wants to. So it's not free, so he has to pay like the rest of us...so what, he's made more than a lot of people would in their first 10-20 years of working.

Tyron Lue had a marginal career and he's basically the head coach of the Cavs.

We can argue semantics all day long, but to think that most guys wouldn't take a hard look at this is foolish.

Lenny Cooke went undrafted and never made an NBA roster. Like you said these guys love basketball, not school. Basketball is their genius as Cal so beautifully put it. If these guys have worked their whole life to make the dream a reality why gamble it for the quick buck? What I've said the whole time stands true. While this is an attractive offer it will never gain traction as a viable option for top notch high school talent. The risks are too great.
 
Why is reading comprehension and following a thread so hard. My sarcastic (since you obviously missed that part) response was in reply to one that said that kids who do this and have marginal careers in NBA or overseas are set for life. They aren't.

You are correct, a large part of the population live paycheck to paycheck. Happy now.


You are the one not comprehending, I'm saying it's true they aren't set for life and burn through money...MY point was that's not an issue just with pro athletes, and that a year or so in college is not guaranteed to fix that. Plenty of people go broke and have undergrads, MBA's, doctorate degrees, etc.
 
You are the one not comprehending, I'm saying it's true they aren't set for life and burn through money...MY point was that's not an issue just with pro athletes, and that a year or so in college is not guaranteed to fix that. Plenty of people go broke and have undergrads, MBA's, doctorate degrees, etc.

No I completely understand that and agree. But my initial response was to someone who said all these kids who skip college would be. To make that assumption like the one poster did is asinine.
 
ESPN has MILLIONS of dollars invested in college basketball, so why would they televise a rival to that investment? They won't.


They would for exactly the reason you say they won't. If they are the only source to watch , that means nobody else offers a competitive product....it's called cornering the market.
 
How do you figure? The kids that choose to play for this Vegas team are the same kids that would have gone to the NBA draft prior to that stupid NBA age limit. This won't be any more "brutal" for the college game than all those years prior to the NBA age limit.

The NBA age limit was instituted for one and only one reason. NBA front offices continued to reach for the next Kobe or Garnett by drafting unproven high schoolers, and most ended up being busts. So the age limit was put in place to protect those NBA teams from themselves. Now they have an extra year to scout those kids.

Frankly it is complete BS that if a talented kid wants to go pro out of high school, the only place he can earn a good paycheck is overseas. I say kudos to whoever came up with this Vegas idea, and I hope it works out. If talented high school kids want to go pro and earn a paycheck after high school, they shouldn't have to go overseas. They damn sure shouldn't feel forced to spend 6 months in college.


In any event, this is no different than all those years when the Kobe Bryants and Amare Stoudamires and Kevin Garnetts chose to skip college. That didn't ruin the college game and neither will this. All this means is that schools relying on one-and-done players will have to adjust to the idea that those one-and-done recruits may never show up on campus.

I agree with your premise but, if this Las Vegas Dealers team works out and other investors start similar teams then we could have at some point most top 50 prospects (if not most top 100) wanting to go ahead and begin earning a living at basketball and bypassing college. I don't think it would ruin the college game but, it would certainly change the game until coaches and teams adjusted.
 
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that if, and it's HUGE if, this thing looks like it will be successful then the NBA will swoop and devour it before it can grow.

If a majority of the top 50 kids were doing this the NBA would adapt. Probably let kids go straight out of HS but require a year of NBDL or such so they could control the game.
 
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