He wasn’t good last season but Stoops plays into that also. Who wants to be an OC under Stoops at KY?
Coen to the Bucs
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It sounds like Stoops had one foot out the door on bowl game night. If I can't feel like he's 100% committed to UK, why would Coen feel that way. He knows what's up and what's going on behind the scenes. Him wanting to get out so quickly is telling. There are clearly deeper problems with UK football. And really, in UK athletics in general.
Even still, lots of fans lining up to avoid blaming coen for anything at all. Just have to shake your head.
Well it is, quite appropriately, Groundhog's Day 
Will see alot of coaches to the pro game and is a trend. College is no longer about football and is about nil and roster management. CFB is the wild west and currently a dumpster fire. Needs some mechanisms put in place like nfl to stay relevant.
He honestly didn’t have a choice. It’s the only reasonable offense he’d had in his decade plus. And he’s big on building offensive narrative more than a reality. He had to throw the sink at getting him back
He also turned right around and bad mouthed him about leaving stoops without ever bringing up stoops trying to leave. Seems like he’s in a ‘help Vince’s narrative’ mode on it right now.
His boss just tried to leave 2 months ago
Good riddance to Coen.
#98 in total offense
#75 in 3rd down conv %
#118 in pace of play.
There are 20 guys out there that we could pay less than $1.1 million a year to yield those results
#98 in total offense
#75 in 3rd down conv %
#118 in pace of play.
There are 20 guys out there that we could pay less than $1.1 million a year to yield those results
And a criminally underrated race track. Tampa Bay Downs is the only track I enjoy as much as keeneland. The track is banked in the turns and the ambulance drivers absolutely get after it, sometimes more entertaining than the race.
Gonna have to go through that BS 10 day job posting nonsense. I really hope Stoops gather Vandagriff, and the rest of the key offensive players and gets their input on this hire. Obviously these hires aren't long term anymore, so you aren't thinking 3-4 years down the road. Gotta think for right now. Vandagriff is a two year guy, he and the other key players need to have a say in this if we want to keep them.
This may be a stupid take but why do offensive coordinators try to force their personnel into a certain type of offense and make that work. Why don’t they look at the personnel they have and build an offense based on their strengths instead of forcing them to fit into a certain system. This past season i saw a lot where coens offense was hard to grasp and that Leary struggled to pick up and understand aspects of it. To me if a qb and other players are struggling to understand certain aspects of the offensive that should be a problem
I guess they could get stuck on terms but there is no fan base or board of trustees to revolt over the thought of him being hired
Exactly. Coen should have ran an uptempo shot gun short passing game offense. That is what Leary excelled in at NC State.
If the players are interested in a certain style, make it happen
Yeah, I still stick by what I have been saying the whole medical situation was weird. I don’t know. Did him and stoops get into physical altercation so they separated them during games? Was Liam really serving some kind of “suspension” when they put him in the booth? Pure speculation. Could be many things but I’m still suspicious, I don’t care what they say.
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Of Course you have Matt Jones, who knows NOTHING about football, saying on KSR this morning he doesn't blame Coen for last year because Leary didn't perform well.......Isn't that Coen's job? Leary did not in excel in what Coen wanted to do in scheme.....he should have adapted the offense.
I think they could pay one of us about $200,00 and we would yield better results.
I will never root for him. He put UK in a bad situation not once but twice. He made an announcement he was going to be here a minimum of two years. I agree something happened with the friendship of him and Stoops but if you put my program in hot water twice…. You can go Fu@k yourself.
I don’t know about happening to the friendship but if I was hired by someone that asked for a 2 year commitment then the guy who asked me for it tried to leave after 1 year of it, it would render any promises I made to him irrelevant
Also no state taxes in Florida.
He didn't want to be here so good luck to him.
Stoops doesn't 100% want to be here either. It is what it is. A
You probably have hit the nail on the head. I feel for the players he recruited or may have chosen to come to UK because of him, but it looks like he is gone and I hope Stoops and his group find a replacement who will be a better fit and lead the team to a more successful season. And I hope we have seen the last of Liam Coen.
Who are the sheep in this metaphor… Fans concerned we’ll lose our quarterback? Uhh
I see that you know much more than Matt Jones, but you did make one tiny mistake. Coen wasn't the OC last year.
I told you all I was against bringing him back when the rumors were about him returning. I knew he would have one foot out the door before he even got here. We need a college guy and not a failed NFL guy. Get the right guy and pay him to stay (make him the highest paid OC in college if you have to) and let him run the offense as he chooses. We need one that will run an offense that benefits college players here and gets them lots of plays. Dump the pro set. We just can't keep having a new OC every year at a place like Kentucky.
After being 13 years tenured. This isn't even close to the same issue.
I know this will go over like a wet blanket on here but maybe Liam Coen just isn't that good? This is like his 4th move in 5 years. I think his reputation keeps him involved but I think the Bucs will find out he isn't the genius Matt Jones thinks he is.
Stoops needs to tell the recruits the Coen will come back in 25
You have made a point I've been thinking about this morning. He was pretty good while he was here, but nothing special. What has he actually done to garner the reputation he apparently has. Perhaps he simply talks a good game and impresses at that level. He may end up being a great coordinator, but up until now he has just been good. No better than many others. If it wasn't for the timing and the constant change of offenses, I would be confident Stoops can find someone as good. I think the timing hurts, and of course changing offenses every year never is a good thing.
I wonder if this is an indictment of Vandagriff....maybe he saw him and is not a believer or maybe he's worried that we end up with another dud transfer and it will hurt his career.
Regardless, every single person here would take care of themself so all the Coen hating is pathetic hypocrisy.
Regardless, every single person here would take care of themself so all the Coen hating is pathetic hypocrisy.
I don't agree. If you are going to look for opportunities every year you don't give your word you will be here for 2 or 3 years, whatever Coen promised. If you give your word, you don't look around until you have fulfilled your promise.
Yeah, he shoud have said "I'm out of here if a pro job presents itself but would love fall back on this job."
Maybe you don't look out for #1, most do and when it comes to a job, they will tell you what you want to hear. It's called life.
No, he just should have not made a promise. If you lie routinely then your character is not very good. Doing it associated with a job search doesn't make it any less objectionable.
Theres not one thing here to prove that he's a routine liar. As far as how he's leaving It's happened a millions of times in sports and will happen a million times more. Glad to know that you're a Saint. See ya.
