I think this is why he tried to bail to Texas Am…they have money to spend on players that Ky doesn’t come up with as much nor as easy
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Take a couple million of his salary and hire a GM.... that would take the pressure off... but he would never agree to that. So suck it up and figure it out Mark.
Idk why everyone is taking shots at Stoops over this. He's a competitive guy and he sees that most of our SEC competitors have way deeper pockets than us which puts him and the team at a massive disadvantage. Has to be disheartening
He makes $9M/yr and he’s complaining about the stress of NIL. You can’t make this stuff up.
“I feel very isolated, very alone. I’ll be honest, I don’t know how long I can take dealing with what I’ve dealt with. Myself, personally, I can only do so much. I’ve never felt this kind of stress and pressure.”
That’s a bit dramatic and over the top IMO. I’ve never liked sales jobs, but for $9M/yr, I would make it work without complaining to my customers. Work this stuff out with Mitch, don’t complain to us. At least he didn’t use the term “pony up” again.
Fundraising to meet payroll demands in NIL world is wearing Mark Stoops down
Mark Stoops has become a full-time fundraiser for Kentucky football. The job is wearing the veteran head coach down.www.on3.com
Stoops is doing the full time job of two or three people because things have changed in college football. Read his comments for what they say. If you say burnout is not alright because of his salary, it sounds like money envy. Stoops signed a contract before NIL and the portal. His job has changed and he is being transparent. That is good isn't it? What is wrong with transparency? Everyone here wants good rosters. That is what Stoops is talking about. He can make $900,000 or $90,000. If he is so stretched out by new responsibilities that he cannot do all the chores of a HC, what difference does his salary make? You are taking the wrong message because of his income.
The University hired Danielle Braswell away from Texas A M as executive recruiting director. Is she doing her job? Does her staff need to be expanded? Do these tasks Stoops is discussing fall outside Ms. Braswell's office? If I am asking these questions, so is Mitch Barnhart. Barnhart has never deprived Kentucky football. Fix the problem, not the blame.
Did you lose respect for Elko when he bailed to Texas A M? Did you lose respect for DeBoer when he bailed to Bama? Don't be that way. It is a business.
I think so too, but states do it from time to time and it stays on the books until challenged. But who is going to challenge?
The difference Stoops was rejected by TAM and he’s not happy here
Not a great recipe for success whining preseason
I think it’s slightly different than what he wrote (unless it has changed). HS athletes in the state of Missouri are eligible for NIL during HS if they sign with a state school. Once they graduate HS, that rule no longer exists. It’s genius actually.
I don't remember ever hearing of a coach or anyone else voluntarily taking an 8 million dollar a year pay cut. and also, I doubt if an NFL coordinator is so stress free. I would be very very surprised if Stoops did this!
Chip Kelly just voluntarily took a $4.1M dollar pay cut to get out from under HC responsibilities.
True, anyway, very rare! Who knows, maybe more will do it but still, I will be very surprised to see many do this. Some do retire but few ever stay in the business at a substantial pay cut, voluntarily.
The new era head coach job certainly isn’t for everybody. On one hand stoops is overpaid so he has to kind of take it and deal. On the other hand it is accurate that at UK fundraising cultivation is mostly left to individual sports and the overall department does very little in the way of relationship development. This is the inverse of about the entire sec and most other schools out there where the departments prime relationships and maintain them and individual coaches come in and push things across the goal line here and there and further extend relationships. But the pitches don’t generally get done by coaches at other schools they are done by department officials then the coaches come in to add to it. Again this is just how it has operated since the day Barnhart came in. It has been really poor at biz dev. Again, he has been content managing the tv contracts into budgets because it suits his personality better. The strong fundraisers he started his career with at UK like Byrne and Mullens have never been replaced. And those guys weren’t that successful at it while at UK because even then Barnhart largely closed himself off to that part of the gig and big donors want some interaction with the AD.
Take this writer's comments with a grain of salt, he's a former TN apologist and as with all those hacks, never passes up a chance at a hit piece directed UK's way. When you read his BS just consider the source.
working in the "real" world for 100,000 or less is common place.
it's also common place since covid that added responsibilities have been added to their job duties, without huge increases in their salary. Most people receive a 3% annual increase despite their job performance. Is that fair? Covid has taught these companies that they can get the same production from less overhead. A 3% increase doesn't even keep up with inflation. Food products have doubles, gas has increased. Everything cost more, yet most make less on the hour because they have to work more hours for the same pay scale. Should UK have a dedicated NIL person, I have no idea, as I haven't kept up with NIL. It has ruined college sports. Now it is just a minor league. Kids go where they can make the most money. Smaller schools have no chance to complete because they won't have near the $ to throw around. Teams like Texas, Texas A & M, Alabama that have huge boosters with plenty of $ will benefit. Maybe schools that have boosters that own their own business can throw money to them. UK has a few wealthy boosters, but they can't compete with WalMart, Tyson or other huge corporations of that type
Here's a novel concept...try making better coaching decisions.
Stoops has the best job in the world.....lose consistently in the SEC, squeak by with just enough wins to get to a bowl game, and make millions.
Direct payment of players by the school is coming, probably next year and there could be some controls instituted by the League, however NIL are deals cut between private entities including the collectives and the individual player. Those, by law cannot be controlled or capped by anyone. They're private deals.
Weren't people just calling for his job like 2-3 years ago...
I'm pretty sure they were.
Ohio State AD Says Recruits Are Demanding Money To Simply Visit Campus In NIL Era
Potential Ohio State recruits are demanding a solid amount of cash to simply visit Columbus. They want $5,000 to visit.
www.outkick.com
I put together the table below showing where UK's class ranking (per 247sports) placed out of the SEC teams and where UK finished at the end of each season. Generally speaking, Stoops punches above his weight. There's only so much you can do when almost every other team fields more talented players.
Year | UK's class ranking (out of total SEC teams) | UK's Final SEC standing |
| 2024 | #13 (out of 16) | TBD |
| 2023 | #11 (out of 14) | 4th in East (7th out of 14) |
| 2022 | #8 (out of 14) | 4th in East (8th out of 14) |
| 2021 | #12 (out of 14) | 2nd in East (4th out of 14) |
| 2020 | #9 (out of 14) | 4th in East (9th out of 14) |
| 2019 | #12 (out of 14) | 4th in East (8th out of 14) |
| 2018 | #11 (out of 14) | 2nd in East (5th out of 14) |
| 2017 | #12 (out of 14) | 3rd in East (7th out of 14) |
| 2016 | #13 (out of 14) | 4th in East (8th out of 14) |
| 2015 | #10 (out of 14) | 5th in East (12th out of 14) |
Ohio State AD Says Recruits Are Demanding Money To Simply Visit Campus In NIL Era
Potential Ohio State recruits are demanding a solid amount of cash to simply visit Columbus. They want $5,000 to visit.
That's been happening all over, not just osu. One kid is getting 7500 to visit, and another 2500 to stay overnight. But quite a few asking for 5k to visit, particularly high ranked QB and WR. Other positions drop off kind of like NFL salaries scale, poor old interior OL are lucky they don't have to pay to visit.
There was buzz 3-4 years ago about Stoops being in trouble. I think that eventually was a rumor based around his divorce, etc …
Stoops hasn’t felt any real heat since he got the 8 yr bowl streak rolling. I think it’s interesting that Stoops/UK are only one of three SEC schools to be to 8 straight bowl games. Some people will blame it on scheduling, etc … I guarantee you our schedule would stack up against the Miss, Ole Miss, Miss St, SC schedules. Several other SEC out of conference schedules are similar to ours. A few SEC schools have started scheduling a premiere OOC games, but most teams schedule 3 cupcakes and maybe an instate/cross state rival.
AU paid over 50k to one player for visits, and finally said enough because dad was just milking them. We told same kid we were done months ago. Hopefully IRS makes a call on them.
Not that I am complaining but I'm sure it helped make Roy Williams, Coach K and Saban's decision easier.
He just said what most of us already think about NIL, your post clearly illustrates that point
If I was state or ole Miss I would argue the west has been the more difficult division. Well it’s not arguing it’s just true. But they’ve all had coaching changes and the most recent hires at ole Miss and sc are beating us….Occasionally sc plays 2 good ooc…Last year sc played both unc and Clemson but this year looks more like ours. Old Dominion, Akron and wofford with Clemson
I run a business and if they pay me $9,000,000 a year, I’ll gladly do whatever additional duties they want to assign me, and then some.
I never thought about celebrities getting paid to show up but now that you mention it I can see it. The little old town I live in has a sports memorabilia store that he brings athletes in, mostly UGA but has brought in others. The UT bunch got a ticket, I live in a great town.
So, hearing Stoops is possibly burning out on a $9 million per year contract, how many people here responded to his cry by giving more to an NIL collective?
Noticed Stoops being ranked as the fifth best coach in the SEC. Only teams ahead of him are GA, AL, Ole Miss and Kelly I think. Is this true that he is the fifth best?
Heupel is doing some damage at UT as much as I hate to say it and recruiting lights out as well. But I'm glad to see Stoops getting some credit. He was dealt a low ball hand when he got here and has improved it into something respectable beyond most expectations.
Not sure what you mean by the best, because I believe you're talking about salary. Stoops makes $9,013,000/year. He is in the group with these 3 guys who are at $9,000,000/year:
Lane Kiffin
Eli Drinkwitz
Josh Heupel
After that group is:
Brent Ventables - $8,150,000
Billy Napier - $7,300,000
Mike Elko - $7,000,000
Hugh Freeze - $6,500,000
Shane Beamer - $6,375,000
Sam Pittman - $6,200,000
Jeff Lebby - $4,510,000
He's in that group, partly because he's in his 12th year. If you throw performance in there, along with years as the HC, I'd probably put him at about $8,500,000, or between that group of 3 and Brent Venebles.
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