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CI Wrestling Thread #56

By the way Rhodes to the Top is indeed available on HBO Max.

I was hoping the Briscoes would come out, maybe Sunday.
 
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At this point it seems pretty clear Cody is gonna be involved with the ROH thing. The timeline of events and other behind the scenes stories add up too well for it not to be.
 
So many questions -

All the ROH contracts were terminated at end of 2021 so basically TK bought the library and all the “ROH talent” can sign with AEW?

Weekly syndicated ROH show gone?

April Supercard of Honor gonna be AEW vs ROH?

Is the “Honor no more” stable in Impact part of this as well or is that separate?

Pretty cool how CM Punk/Daniel Bryan have gone full circle with this now.
 
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So many questions -

All the ROH contracts were terminated at end of 2021 so basically TK bought the library and all the “ROH talent” can sign with AEW?

Weekly syndicated ROH show gone?

April Supercard of Honor gonna be AEW vs ROH?

Is the “Honor no more” stable in Impact part of this as well or is that separate?

Pretty cool how CM Punk/Daniel Bryan have gone full circle with this now.
Well I think one answer can be questioned with what you said. The contracts are all terminated, so I’d say all those who showed up in impact will not be involved with RoH now unless Impact will play ball again and TK signs them back. I honestly don’t think he should resign any of them except Gresham and Briscoes.

Not exactly thrilled with how they did this announcement and I wonder if y’all agree with me. But this is a pretty huge announcement right? But it only got 4 minutes at the very beginning. Sure they brought it up throughout the show, but why not show footage from old matches. Samoa Joe, CM Punk, BD, Cole, bucks, omega, Page, etc etc. Show some footage to get people hyped and help people see what they’re getting. It’s AEW, so most people already know, but you need to hype it throughout the episode. Only thing I can think of is that we’re gonna get a big swerve Sunday.
 
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Well I think one answer can be questioned with what you said. The contracts are all terminated, so I’d say all those who showed up in impact will not be involved with RoH now unless Impact will play ball again and TK signs them back. I honestly don’t think he should resign any of them except Gresham and Briscoes.

Not exactly thrilled with how they did this announcement and I wonder if y’all agree with me. But this is a pretty huge announcement right? But it only got 4 minutes at the very beginning. Sure they brought it up throughout the show, but why not show footage from old matches. Samoa Joe, CM Punk, BD, Cole, bucks, omega, Page, etc etc. Show some footage to get people hyped and help people see what they’re getting. It’s AEW, so most people already know, but you need to hype it throughout the episode. Only thing I can think of is that we’re gonna get a big swerve Sunday.
It’s pretty significant. ROH is to the 2000s and 2010s what ECW was in the 90s. Not for the style of wrestling but for the impact it had on wrestling and how big it got for an indie.

Going to give them a bigger in with NJPW for more forbidden door stuff. They had brought some guys over for short term leases but those were older guys. Now with Jay White on lease and getting ROH, could open the door for guys like Okada, Ibushi, Ospreay, etc.

Going to be huge for the HBO Max deal that is likely coming. That has to be like thousands of hours of content and gets them rights to All In, which is unofficially AEW’s first show.
 
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It’s pretty significant. ROH is to the 2000s and 2010s what ECW was in the 90s. Not for the style of wrestling but for the impact it had on wrestling and how big it got for an indie.

Going to give them a bigger in with NJPW for more forbidden door stuff. They had brought some guys over for short term leases but those were older guys. Now with Jay White on lease and getting ROH, could open the door for guys like Okada, Ibushi, Ospreay, etc.

Going to be huge for the HBO Max deal that is likely coming. That has to be like thousands of hours of content and gets them rights to All In, which is unofficially AEW’s first show.
But shouldn’t they have hyped it up through the whole episode. Show footage, build it up. Make this whole episode essentially the purchase of RoH and revolution second fiddle.
 
So it’s basically like wcw 2001 where you are buying the brand but each wrestler decides if they are coming or going?
 
ROH released all of its wrestlers. I guess he essentially bought the name and the tape library. When WWE bought WCW they did get most of the talent (but almost none of the talent worth anything)
 
from what I gathered, he bought the library, property, equipment, and brand. There was no talent under contract to RoH at the time, so he will not have to take on any other talent with it.
 
I really just want to watch the ROH shows I went to back in 2007. I had them on DVD and then got poor and sold them. I know I can probably still get them somewhere but I'd rather just pay $10 and stream them when I'm in the mood
 
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I really just want to watch the ROH shows I went to back in 2007. I had them on DVD and then got poor and sold them. I know I can probably still get them somewhere but I'd rather just pay $10 and stream them when I'm in the mood
I had a shit load of ROH DVDs a few years ago. Sold them all off but two, The Era of Honor Begins and Unscripted (which has arguably my favorite match of all time), because I haven't watched a DVD in like a decade. It's what got me back into wrestling after the real ECW and WCW shut down, effectively giving WWE zero real competition.

My manager at my internship or after I became a grad assistant sometime between the 2007 to 2010 school years told me I would probably like it. He gave me a few DVDs to watch, and I was hooked. They produced some of the best wrestling you'll ever see.

If not for ROH, I would have likely never watched wrestling again. Not even AEW, unless I got a strong recommendation from a friend. So ROH holds a special place in my heart lol. I was kind of sad to see it gradually degrade over the years with all the talent losses to NXT and then when AEW essentially put the nail in the coffin. I think it's pretty fitting that the name and spirit of ROH will live within AEW now.
 
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PwInsider reporting the WWE tried to buy ROH in December after it shut down but a deal was never done.

Folks in WWE thought the big announcement was a deal with HBO Max and was legit shocked that Khan had bought ROH.

Also HHH's top executive assistant was let go, which makes you wonder if he's ever coming back to WWE.
 
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I know it has been mentioned before but the slow face turn AEW is doing with Wardlow has been brilliant. The segments he had with Spears and then with MJF last night were great.
I would be shocked if the turning point isn't at Revolution. Either Wardlow is going to cost MJF his match or MJF will cost Wardlow his match, is my guess. Or they have Wardlow win and MJF reneges on his promise to let Wardlow keep the belt.
 
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I would be shocked if the turning point isn't at Revolution. Either Wardlow is going to cost MJF his match or MJF will cost Wardlow his match, is my guess. Or they have Wardlow win and MJF reneges on his promise to let Wardlow keep the belt.
I figured it would be at either Revolution or the Dynamite that follows.
 
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  1. The sale of Ring of Honor to Tony Khan of All Elite Wrestling was kept close to the vest, with many not knowing the transaction was in the works until late Tuesday, according to Sapp.
    "Talent that is booked for the April Supercard of Honor show was not and have not been briefed as of yet, and learned about it by watching Dynamite with the rest of the world," he stated.
    Sapp also said suspicion arose when Ring of Honor world champion Jonathan Gresham was backstage at a recent edition of Dynamite in Connecticut despite having a show less than 24 hours later in Atlanta.
 
Cody Rhodes has yet to make his WWE debut and with Tony Khan’s purchase of Ring Of Honor, there has been some speculation that perhaps Rhodes’ deal with WWE has fallen through and some are speculating that he may end up in charge of ROH.

Bodyslam.net reported today that talks between Rhodes and WWE have “fizzled out” and that there is hope that he could be brought back into AEW.

However, Dave Meltzer stated on the Wrestling Observer Forum that things are still on track and as of two days ago, the plans for Rhodes to return to WWE were still on track.

Meltzer said the following on the Observer Forum: “Vince McMahon didn’t think they fizzled as of two days ago.”
 
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"In those days it was like, from their standpoint, when you invaded their territory, it was like ... there were so many people who threatened me, that I told one of them, 'If you want to take credit for it, you better get me quick.'"

Wrestling used to be a territorial-based industry, but McMahon changed that as he grew his business into an international behemoth. He eventually won out over the rival promoters, who were reportedly from the National Wrestling Alliance.

McMahon also claimed that Ross overheard the conversation between rival promoters in a bathroom while he was in a stall.

"They were talking about how they were going to off me. 'This guy knows this guy, I know a guy who can do this, this guy [carried out a hit], it was really impressive.' They all know people, so they’re all talking about who was going to off me.
"So imagine Jim Ross, he doesn’t give a s–t about Vince McMahon [as he wasn’t working for WWE yet at the time]. He’s thinking about himself. He’s on the throne. He hears this and thinks he’s gonna be an accessory to murder. He takes one foot, puts it on the seat. Takes the other one, puts it on the seat, so now they can’t see his feet below the stall. And, of course Mother Nature is calling at the same time."
Ross has previously told this story on the Grilling JRpodcast (h/t Brandon Stroud of Uproxx).
 
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