Ironic b/c I saw Vince wants to re-sign Cole
So basically they are done with the yearly raiding impact/roh/njpw
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So basically they are done with the yearly raiding impact/roh/njpw
I always get perspectives from lapsed fans
I went up to Wick’s a little earlier today with five other friends. Four used to watch and one never has
I asked if Punk returning would make them start watching. Two said they saw the clip, but didn’t care. The other two haven’t watch and really don’t care either. (I still haven’t even watched it, lol).
too busy with work, family, etc to even care
I went up to Wick’s a little earlier today with five other friends. Four used to watch and one never has
I asked if Punk returning would make them start watching. Two said they saw the clip, but didn’t care. The other two haven’t watch and really don’t care either. (I still haven’t even watched it, lol).
too busy with work, family, etc to even care
How lapsed are they? Was Punk a big draw for them when they watched?
Lapsed fans come in a lot of stripes. Some on the older end quit watching when the territories died. Others quit after Vince bought out WCW.
Others like me come and go. I started watching in 85 as a kid. Lapsed from 92-96. Watched 96-03; lapsed from 03-07, lapsed slightly from 2016-2017. Read more results than watched shows.
I literally know 3 people off the top of my head that have watched wrestling as an adult in any capacity
1. Is glad CM Punk is back and has started watching AEW now
2. 1s husband. HATES Cm Punk because he is ugly and was really selfish for having the title for so long. She also wants the Miz to be the champ because he is hot
3. a dude at work that loves John Cena and was mad he missed him at the house show
I do not count the guy I know that was actually with WWE at one point. But he is so far out of the business that he barely counts at this point. He posts stuff on facebook from time to time about his history. Clips and pictures and stories. He posted a pic with Gedo from the 90s and a story about him. I just said "wow cool you got to hang out with Gedo". and he was shocked that I even knew who that was. I just said that he is the head booker of New Japan and he went "really? sounds about right, always had a good mind for the business"
1. Is glad CM Punk is back and has started watching AEW now
2. 1s husband. HATES Cm Punk because he is ugly and was really selfish for having the title for so long. She also wants the Miz to be the champ because he is hot
3. a dude at work that loves John Cena and was mad he missed him at the house show
I do not count the guy I know that was actually with WWE at one point. But he is so far out of the business that he barely counts at this point. He posts stuff on facebook from time to time about his history. Clips and pictures and stories. He posted a pic with Gedo from the 90s and a story about him. I just said "wow cool you got to hang out with Gedo". and he was shocked that I even knew who that was. I just said that he is the head booker of New Japan and he went "really? sounds about right, always had a good mind for the business"
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Is anyone getting the nwa Ppv this weekend? I may just to support Austin idol
Hearing that WWE has decided not to bring in any more indy wrestlers in favor of people who have absolutely no wrestling experience.
So WWE has determined that the problem is wrestlers who have figured out how to get themselves over. Because they know how to get themselves over anywhere, know what they are doing, and will fight against WWE's bad creative ideas, and likely become disallusioned by the experience. Whereas people who are taught to get themselves over in WWE know only how to get themselves over in WWE with the help of (and little resistance to) creative, and don't have any natural instincts for how to put butts in seats.
Richard Feynman, a nobel prize winning physicist who lived a colorful life and wrote a book about it, taught a few classes as a visiting professor in Brazil. He realized that the kids only know what they are told to memorize, but have no idea how it applies to the real world. So the could spout principles and theorems and equations with ease, but if you asked them a simple question to apply that knowledge, they were totally stumped. I feel like that's how WWE's recruits are going to end up.
Put another way, WWE is trying to create technicians, and don't want overqualified engineers. WWE will tell you what to do and how to do it, you just go do it. That's not bad when the engineers know what they are doing. But what happens when they don't? That's why WWE is where they are now. And they are doubling down on it.
So WWE has determined that the problem is wrestlers who have figured out how to get themselves over. Because they know how to get themselves over anywhere, know what they are doing, and will fight against WWE's bad creative ideas, and likely become disallusioned by the experience. Whereas people who are taught to get themselves over in WWE know only how to get themselves over in WWE with the help of (and little resistance to) creative, and don't have any natural instincts for how to put butts in seats.
Richard Feynman, a nobel prize winning physicist who lived a colorful life and wrote a book about it, taught a few classes as a visiting professor in Brazil. He realized that the kids only know what they are told to memorize, but have no idea how it applies to the real world. So the could spout principles and theorems and equations with ease, but if you asked them a simple question to apply that knowledge, they were totally stumped. I feel like that's how WWE's recruits are going to end up.
Put another way, WWE is trying to create technicians, and don't want overqualified engineers. WWE will tell you what to do and how to do it, you just go do it. That's not bad when the engineers know what they are doing. But what happens when they don't? That's why WWE is where they are now. And they are doubling down on it.
Corporate "Wrestling". Bland with nearly zero personality or energy.
Lapsed to me was basically early 80's Memphis wrestling (spent many a Tuesday night at Louisville Gardens) and watched steadily until the Attitude Era got out of control. More specifically when they got into necrophilia. I started back about 3 or 4 years ago when I watched Wrestlemania on the network for free. That got me back into it. The only thing I knew about CM Punk was that he got his butt kicked in MMA. I've never even gone back and watched any of his matches so he obviously does nothing for me.
Makes sense. Punk was there 2005-14. His run was pretty forgettable until 2008 or so. His most highly regarded WWE match is vs. Cena at Money In The Bank 2011. But, they’d go on to eff up that angle when it was so good that summer. (Match Linked below with video package build up)
The Katie Vick thing was the end of me being a weekly watcher in that era. I wasn’t offended if or anything. I just thought it was stupid and added nothing to the product.
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I think Dave is FOS on Cole not making a decision yet. Many people both on screen and off screen at AEW have been teasing and posting old pics of them and Cole over the last few days. Dave also said Bray to AEW were pretty much certain only for Alvarez the next day to say he was text by someone in AEW asking if Dave was really saying that about Bray. Then went to say he thinks he ends up in impact.
Also the reason dynamite was a bad card was they had several people out due to Covid.
Story came out today that JR is slowly stepping out of the announce booth at AEW and it’s his call. Will eventually only do certain matches and will do more interviews and behind scenes stuff. JR said it’s news to him but Cassidy Haynes broke the story. He also broke the Danielson story.
Also the reason dynamite was a bad card was they had several people out due to Covid.
Story came out today that JR is slowly stepping out of the announce booth at AEW and it’s his call. Will eventually only do certain matches and will do more interviews and behind scenes stuff. JR said it’s news to him but Cassidy Haynes broke the story. He also broke the Danielson story.
That’s a lot to digest - I watched the punk segment and thought jr and taz were awful on commentary plus was that a 4 person booth? Jr was awesome in wcw and great with lawler in wwe but I wish he would have stopped after his new Japan commentary stint
Kind of an interesting number.
taking CM Punks return out, these two videos were released at the same time: Brock and Becky’s return. People were wondering which was the most impactful…
The Lesnar one is at 85K
Becky at 55K
taking CM Punks return out, these two videos were released at the same time: Brock and Becky’s return. People were wondering which was the most impactful…
The Lesnar one is at 85K
Becky at 55K
413k, lol.
I thought it’d do around 250K.
we’ve had some big numbers this past month
It’s views. I’m not sure if a person on the same computer watching it over counts as multiple times though
I’ve watched it at least 20,000 times myself so I’m probably skewing the numbers a bit and honestly I’ll do whatever to kick WWE in the ass and really start doing things again that’ll get rating like tits and ass and cussing and shit. Glory days and what not.
I’m listening to the rough draft of today’s JCE 396…
I really don’t know much about this Nick Khan, but I’m listening to them (corny and Brian) talking about this interview he had a little while ago, so my question is…
is Nick Khan sabotaging the WWE, lol. I couldn’t believe the stuff he was saying, lol.
I really don’t know much about this Nick Khan, but I’m listening to them (corny and Brian) talking about this interview he had a little while ago, so my question is…
is Nick Khan sabotaging the WWE, lol. I couldn’t believe the stuff he was saying, lol.
He was a talent agent for actors and other individuals and later started representing large companies in their negotiations with networks.
He likely knows only what the McMahons tell him about the sports entertainment business. He is perfect for negotiating with USA and Fox and if Vince ever wants to sell the business.
Ya I joked a few pages ago he was a double secret agent - guy seems pretty clueless for someone making major decisions
If you listen to the show, it comes out later…but I couldn’t believe the stuff I was hearing, lol.
That’s the kind of stuff that makes me wonder where the people with butterfly nets and straitjackets went to
The lasso tool in photoshop and use my iPad if I need a reference pic
I save the faces with different expressions so it saves time later
He's not interested in the product, he only cares about ad revenue.
Just don't tell him that he would need a bigger roster to fill all that time.
A friend is over and we’re going to watch this nwa show. We were curious about CM Punks rating for Dynamite. With all this hype and talk, I am shocked the number is this low
Looks like he has appeal with the modern fan, but casual and lapsed don’t seem to be taking an interest.
but the friends I was with the other day said they really have no interest
CM Punk ratings
Looks like he has appeal with the modern fan, but casual and lapsed don’t seem to be taking an interest.
but the friends I was with the other day said they really have no interest
CM Punk ratings
How’s the ppv so far?
The nwa women’s ppv supposedly was good last night - I think mickie (James) aldis was in charge of it
I have the Fite app, so went to order and it said it needed my Amazon password. It’s under my wife’s account, but wouldn’t take the password…tried my own fite password, wouldn’t work.
we tried for 45 minutes. Don’t understand what is up
Zcat “this bodes well for my prediction that nick aldis will go to aew he just had to drop the belt first”
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