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CI Wrestling Thread #56

I know. But I really think he is a guy that never really needed a title. I don't think him having a run would have really done much to his legacy

Easy to say in hindsight I know
 
I know. But I really think he is a guy that never really needed a title. I don't think him having a run would have really done much to his legacy

Easy to say in hindsight I know
Probably not but out of respect to him they could have thrown him a bone at the end of his career for all he did for WWF.
 
Man. Hard to argue that one. Was my immediate thought.

So many shitty wrestlers won titles and Jake never did. I don’t feel like looking it up but what titles did he win ever as a pro wrestler? Didn’t get anything in WCW either did he? Maybe the early days?
Click here and scroll to the bottom to see any titles he had during his career. None were from a major wrestling federation though.
 
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Probably not but out of respect to him they could have thrown him a bone at the end of his career for all he did for WWF.

Don't get me wrong Jake deserved a title run more than damn near anyone in the last 20 years. But to me it would have been just like Pipers IC run. I mean cool he got to carry around a belt but that was hardly a defining moment of his career.

I've actually read stuff from wrestlers before that said with the exception of the world title, being a champ is really just a pain in the ass because you have to carry that damn belt around and get it through security and what not. But thats been quite a while. I can't imagine WWE does that anymore.
 
Did you just say the Usos suck? lol

Tell me you didn’t just say the Uso’s sucks…..I think my mind is playing tricks on me or something. I mean…..you meant something else…….right?
Ok they don’t “suck” but they’re certainly overrated. Makes me laugh whenever I hear people say they’re one of the best tag teams wwe has ever had or in all of wrestling right now.
Supposedly Charlotte went off script and gave her some chops for that botch - can’t imagine she would ever agree to work with nia again
Nia’s punches were a worse offense than the back drop IMO. I’ve seen some people try to say she didn’t really hit Charlotte but you can tell atleast 2 of these landed hard. Nia is disgusting. I’ve never bought into people saying Charlotte would leave to join Andrade and Ric but if she keeps getting treated like this then it may happen.
 
Ok they don’t “suck” but they’re certainly overrated. Makes me laugh whenever I hear people say they’re one of the best tag teams wwe has ever had or in all of wrestling right now.

Nia’s punches were a worse offense than the back drop IMO. I’ve seen some people try to say she didn’t really hit Charlotte but you can tell atleast 2 of these landed hard. Nia is disgusting. I’ve never bought into people saying Charlotte would leave to join Andrade and Ric but if she keeps getting treated like this then it may happen.
But they are one of the best tag teams in the world. I need to hear specifically what about them is overrated. Do you enjoy watching the young bucks? The Usos work actual matches that make sense. The bucks struggle on the mic if we are being honest they don’t always sound believable. I don’t see how the Usos who are over in a tag team division in the WWE where it’s extremely hard to get over…..I’m just not sure how you could consider them overrated.
 
Flair says a singles match is out of the card, but would like to do him/Andrade vs Darby/Sting. Please God no.
 
But they are one of the best tag teams in the world. I need to hear specifically what about them is overrated. Do you enjoy watching the young bucks? The Usos work actual matches that make sense. The bucks struggle on the mic if we are being honest they don’t always sound believable. I don’t see how the Usos who are over in a tag team division in the WWE where it’s extremely hard to get over…..I’m just not sure how you could consider them overrated.

And, the Bucks look like I could kick their ass. The Usos would murder me. Lol

If a team or wrestler works in WWE, the poster you’re quoting won’t like them and will shit on them. He’s an AEW fanboi. Many of us are capable of watching AEW and WWE and pointing out good and bad aspects of both products.
 
Priest has it! He’s a little monotone but he knows how to deliver on the mic. He’s got a good build and has solid in ring work. If I were a betting man, I bet Vince would like him to be about 270 opposed to 250 but he’s got all the tools. He’s 38 so he’s going to need to be rocket strapped but I can see him becoming a major player going forward.
 
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The way I've heard that Charlotte/Nia match explained is that Nia gave Charlotte that horribly crappy and dangerous back drop, Charlotte tried to give her a receipt (which is what you see in the video posted above by Zay), and Nia got pissed about it.

Nia is a dangerous human botchfest who refuses to be corrected. You created that, WWE, and still are.
 
And, the Bucks look like I could kick their ass. The Usos would murder me. Lol

If a team or wrestler works in WWE, the poster you’re quoting won’t like them and will shit on them. He’s an AEW fanboi. Many of us are capable of watching AEW and WWE and pointing out good and bad aspects of both products.
That’s the only thing I don’t understand. I like both companies and watch both. I just can’t believe he said the Usos suck and then proceeded to add to that and say they’re overrated. Anyone who actually watches them knows that’s ridiculous.
 
So is Priest going to be a world champ in the next couple years?
Seems like it. It’s crazy. 3 years ago if you’d told me Punishment Martinez would be the top guy in wwe I’d called you crazy. But credit to him he got himself in better shape in that time frame. His only downside is he’s already 40.
 
But they are one of the best tag teams in the world. I need to hear specifically what about them is overrated. Do you enjoy watching the young bucks? The Usos work actual matches that make sense. The bucks struggle on the mic if we are being honest they don’t always sound believable. I don’t see how the Usos who are over in a tag team division in the WWE where it’s extremely hard to get over…..I’m just not sure how you could consider them overrated.
Yeah the bucks are no Usos on the mic. Shame they can’t say UCE 50 times in two minutes and act all hard from the hood.

I could name 10 tag teams better than the Usos off the top of my head. They’re over in wwe because they’re one of like 2-3 teams that actually stay together more than a year. They aren’t in the same league as the bucks.
And, the Bucks look like I could kick their ass. The Usos would murder me. Lol

If a team or wrestler works in WWE, the poster you’re quoting won’t like them and will shit on them. He’s an AEW fanboi. Many of us are capable of watching AEW and WWE and pointing out good and bad aspects of both products.
Lol at you acting like you’re an unbiased poster.
 
I would have said Piper, but apparently he was a IC champ around 1990.

But neither Piper nor Jake ever needed a belt to get them over.
Piper won the belt from the Mountie at the 92 Royal Rumble then dropped it to Bret Hart at Wrestlemania 8. It was a nice gesture by Piper to put Hart over by a clean pinfall. I was glad to see Piper get a belt for a while, but like you said he never needed one to get over.
 
Lol at you acting like you’re an unbiased poster.

Considering I have priased and criticized AEW and WWE, yes, I’m an unbiased poster who is a wrestling fan. I don’t mark out for either company and I don’t hate either company.

It’s true. I find the Bucks to be the drizzling shits and don’t care much for Kenny. That doesn’t mean I can’t love guys like MJF, Lucha Bros, Jungle Boy and Ricky Starks.

Me not liking your favorite guys doesn’t make me biased.
 
Yeah the bucks are no Usos on the mic. Shame they can’t say UCE 50 times in two minutes and act all hard from the hood.

I could name 10 tag teams better than the Usos off the top of my head. They’re over in wwe because they’re one of like 2-3 teams that actually stay together more than a year. They aren’t in the same league as the bucks.

Lol at you acting like you’re an unbiased poster.
I know you know you’re being ridiculous. But really I just want you to admit it. The Usos are amazing. I’m sorry “acting hard and from the hood” makes you uncomfortable. I’m sure the bucks dressing up as 12 year old anime fans is much more appealing to you.
 
I know you know you’re being ridiculous. But really I just want you to admit it. The Usos are amazing. I’m sorry “acting hard and from the hood” makes you uncomfortable. I’m sure the bucks dressing up as 12 year old anime fans is much more appealing to you.
😂 doesn’t make me uncomfortable. It just comes off as fake as shit. They ain’t hard and definitely didn’t grow up in the hood.

And I don’t know wtf you mean by anime and bucks. They’ve literally never talked about or dressed like anime.
 
Considering I have priased and criticized AEW and WWE, yes, I’m an unbiased poster who is a wrestling fan. I don’t mark out for either company and I don’t hate either company.

It’s true. I find the Bucks to be the drizzling shits and don’t care much for Kenny. That doesn’t mean I can’t love guys like MJF, Lucha Bros, Jungle Boy and Ricky Starks.

Me not liking your favorite guys doesn’t make me biased.
Ohhh I see. So when I think the Usos are the drizzling shits it’s just because im biased. But when you think the Bucks are the drizzling shits it’s just you being objective.

Got it. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
I could be wrong but I don’t think Paul Orndorf ever had a title?

- That last right from Nia was a legit punch. So much so that Charlotte cocked back for real before realizing it’s time to get back to work.

- Still considering whether I should buy this PPV for Punk vs Darby.
 
😂 doesn’t make me uncomfortable. It just comes off as fake as shit. They ain’t hard and definitely didn’t grow up in the hood.

And I don’t know wtf you mean by anime and bucks. They’ve literally never talked about or dressed like anime.
It’s wrestling……it’s all fake as shit. Lmfao.
 
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Ohhh I see. So when I think the Usos are the drizzling shits it’s just because im biased. But when you think the Bucks are the drizzling shits it’s just you being objective.

Got it. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
The difference being you really only criticize one company. I get you’re a fan bro but at least be a tad bit objective. I like you but the Uso comment was dumb as hell. Btw I like the young bucks I’m just saying you can’t complain about the Usos when the bucks do more dumb shit than anyone.
 
I could be wrong but I don’t think Paul Orndorf ever had a title?

- That last right from Nia was a legit punch. So much so that Charlotte cocked back for real before realizing it’s time to get back to work.

- Still considering whether I should buy this PPV for Punk vs Darby.
I didn’t google but I think he had wcw tv title for a while - could be wrong but trying to think he had that at one point even tho it seemed like Arn had it forever
 
Ohhh I see. So when I think the Usos are the drizzling shits it’s just because im biased. But when you think the Bucks are the drizzling shits it’s just you being objective.

Got it. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

If you were to go back in this 5-year-old thread, my disdain for the Bucks isn’t new. It existed long before AEW or the Bullet Club. They just never were my cup of tea, dating back to Generation Me in TNA.

I am curious to see those 10 current teams you think are better than the Usos. I agree the Usos aren’t an all-time great tag team, but I’d put them in the top 5 of tag teams that exist today.
 
Looks like Orndorff was WCW TV champion once and Tag Champ three times.

From the "where does the time go" three years ago today was "All Out." Of course without that show there most likely isn't an AEW.

Speaking of AEW here's what's scheduled for tonight:

FTR vs. Santana & Ortiz.
Jim Ross interviews Chris Jericho.
CM Punk to speak about his return to the ring this Sunday.
Will Hobbs vs. Brian Cage.
Orange Cassidy vs. Jack Evans.
Penelope Ford vs. Tay Conti.
 
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Looks like Orndorff was WCW TV champion once and Tag Champ three times.

From the "where does the time go" three years ago today was "All Out." Of course without that show there most likely isn't an AEW.

Speaking of AEW here's what's scheduled for tonight:

FTR vs. Santana & Ortiz.
Jim Ross interviews Chris Jericho.
CM Punk to speak about his return to the ring this Sunday.
Will Hobbs vs. Brian Cage.
Orange Cassidy vs. Jack Evans.
Penelope Ford vs. Tay Conti.

Orndorff held tons of titles. Jerry Jarrett gave him his break and put the southern title on him (although the title was behind the big feud between Lawler vs Dundee in summer of 77). He also the North American title, was nwa tag champ with Jimmy Snuka, National champ in Georgia among others
 
Hope they give FTR vs Santana/Ortiz 20+ minutes to tear the house down. I don’t understand why they seem to clip all the promos between those two. It’s a feud that has actually built some heat.

Im going be annoyed if they give the goofy 8 man Elite tag match more time than FTR/Santana and Ortiz.
 
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Hope they give FTR vs Santana/Ortiz 20+ minutes to tear the house down. I don’t understand why they seem to clip all the promos between those two. It’s a feud that has actually built some heat.

Im going be annoyed if they give the goofy 8 man Elite tag match more time than FTR/Santana and Ortiz.
I hope so too. I would think they would seeing the last match ended with it being rushed due to Cash’s injury (or Dax? I get them confused). Anyways, idk how much of the injury is a work. I mean I know the injury is legit and it looked gruesome, but is this really their last match? Is he really having nerve issues with his hand? Idk how much is legit.
 
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I would bet it’s a work with some blended reality, but FTR also seem like guys who could walk away from wrestling and be okay with it.
 
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