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CI Wrestling Thread #56

Politics aside I think social media has a lot to do with some of those problems discussed above and it makes fans feel like the talent is more attainable than before - take for example some dweeb on Twitter talking smack to Alexa bliss and body shaming her - stuff like that didn’t happen years ago because there was a clear line between fans and talent but social media has blurred that completely
Reason #874,393 why social media is one of the worst inventions of all time.
 
What idiot would body shame Alexa and what could he possibly say? Her body is perfection.

- Being reported that WWE isn’t going to punish Jimmy USO at all for his dui. They’re going to act like it never happened. Btw a lot of people on Twitter blamed Naomi for his numerous dui’s and drinking problem so she deleted her account. Which then led to race baiters saying they’re tired of black women in wrestling being targeted and if it were a white girl like Alexa being harassed that other wrestlers would come to her defense. 😂

- Brock now has a goatee and ponytail...
 
Agree that anyone shaming Alexa Bliss from a physical standpoint must have no life. She is straight up 🔥. Say what you want about her work (I think it’s great aside from a goofy gimmick), she’s got it all to be the face of a division despite being small.

I just saw a link on Facebook (taken with a grain of salt) that Danielson may be signing with AEW and could be appearing soon. The Khans are going to WCW AEW before it even takes off.
 
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This is what she was replaying to but I think it’s just incoherent ramblings of a crazy person.

 
Was watching AEW on my DVR again earlier and my fiancé who knows little to nothing about wrestling watched part of it. She said, “What is this? Is this the wrestling your buddy is in over at the civic center? Why is this on TV?” Watching Raw and she just said “this looks so much more professional that what you had on earlier.” I think she’s been eavesdropping my Cornette podcasts or can just see good wrestling vs outlaw bullshit.
 
Enjoyed Ricochet vs Morrison. They need to do more with Ricochet, he has proven he can work a good match with anybody.
 
I don’t understand what happened with Bliss.

Someone explain it to me like I’m 5.
 
Was watching AEW on my DVR again earlier and my fiancé who knows little to nothing about wrestling watched part of it. She said, “What is this? Is this the wrestling your buddy is in over at the civic center? Why is this on TV?” Watching Raw and she just said “this looks so much more professional that what you had on earlier.” I think she’s been eavesdropping my Cornette podcasts or can just see good wrestling vs outlaw bullshit.
Lol, I’m sending to him
 
He will appreciate that!

I have guy on ignore in this thread who’ll say I’m lying (we know who it is), but I have several friends (not even Cornette listeners) that have tried to watch AEW and they ALL say the same thing, lol (no selling, it’s like a video game, the guys look like kids). They all say it.

it’s funny: one of the reasons I never liked wrestling video games is the lack of selling. It all went back to 89. Myself and a friend renting that old nwa Nintendo game from an old Road Runner video store. I didn’t know what “selling” meant then, but I “got it”, and it was pushing buttons and getting back up. I hated it.

the only thing I’ve done with wrestling video games is help our son use the create a wrestler in the wwe games.
 
I have guy on ignore in this thread who’ll say I’m lying (we know who it is), but I have several friends (not even Cornette listeners) that have tried to watch AEW and they ALL say the same thing, lol (no selling, it’s like a video game, the guys look like kids). They all say it.

it’s funny: one of the reasons I never liked wrestling video games is the lack of selling. It all went back to 89. Myself and a friend renting that old nwa Nintendo game from an old Road Runner video store. I didn’t know what “selling” meant then, but I “got it”, and it was pushing buttons and getting back up. I hated it.

the only thing I’ve done with wrestling video games is help our son use the create a wrestler in the wwe games.
I agree 100%. Every wrestler there aside from the ones who have been in the "big leagues" know what to do (although not always executed properly) but they have no clue how to tell a story behind it. They pull moves out of the blue in matches that make no sense for the spot at hand. As you said, they have forgotten the art of selling which deem the majority of the moves useless or ineffective. It's like when they went to school, it was at High Spot University but they completely forgot the psychology course which makes up the success of any and all wrestling matches.

I don't want to shit on AEW but when the shoe fits, I have to. WWE isn't clear of blame because their product is on the decline as well but even if writers, producers, agents, or front office personnel fail to teach them the proper actions, they still have a roster of veterans who will be quick to show them the way if not walk them through matches. I've come to accept that the wrestling we grew up on is gone into the abyss but there is no need for the product we see every Wednesday night to be glorified the way it is. I really want AEW to succeed as it can provide jobs and entertainment to many talents but the trajectory it's on is not the way to go. That's a reflection on the talents who the company is built around such as Omega, The Bucks, and unfortunately modern day Cody.
 
*You all are mistaking no-selling a move with a last-gasp reflexive countermove before the wrestler sells/continues to sell, such as a kickout or a quick pop-up after a strong move with a countermove before collapsing and selling.

I don't know. You either like the product AEW puts out, or you don't. But I think it's more an aversion to the personalities (and some ageism thrown in).

I'm 50 years old, and enjoy the AEW product. Watched wrestling in the early to mid '80's, lost interest, rekindled interest in the mid-to-late '90's and a little in the 2000's then kind of followed wrestling from afar for a couple decades, checking in periodically, until AEW set up shop. Just think it's fun.

*Forgot to mention a few weeks back, I liked the very exaggerated kickouts of Brock Anderson, like he as a rookie needed all his strength to be able to break the pin of the stronger/more experienced wrestlers.

*The Varsity Blonds officially signed with AEW yesterday (they weren't already)?

*Per some social media posts of Max Caster, he is apparently infatuated sexually with MJF. Like, not kayfabe (I don't think), for real.
 
To each his own and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I don't like most of today's wrestling as it all sucks compared to what I grew up with back in the late 70's Memphis wrestling and even through the attitude era. However I record AEW, Raw and Smackdown and the only one I watch consistently, despite some things about it I hate, is AEW.
 
When I think of wrestlers of the '70's and early '80's, I think of men with beer bellies. Not that there weren't men like Tony Atlas around, but physique was just not as important. Nowhere near the cut and chiseled muscular physique of most wrestlers today (which is one way I think Hulk Hogan changed wrestling).
 
*You all are mistaking no-selling a move with a last-gasp reflexive countermove before the wrestler sells/continues to sell, such as a kickout or a quick pop-up after a strong move with a countermove before collapsing and selling.

I don't know. You either like the product AEW puts out, or you don't. But I think it's more an aversion to the personalities (and some ageism thrown in).

I'm 50 years old, and enjoy the AEW product. Watched wrestling in the early to mid '80's, lost interest, rekindled interest in the mid-to-late '90's and a little in the 2000's then kind of followed wrestling from afar for a couple decades, checking in periodically, until AEW set up shop. Just think it's fun.

*Forgot to mention a few weeks back, I liked the very exaggerated kickouts of Brock Anderson, like he as a rookie needed all his strength to be able to break the pin of the stronger/more experienced wrestlers.

*The Varsity Blonds officially signed with AEW yesterday (they weren't already)?

*Per some social media posts of Max Caster, he is apparently infatuated sexually with MJF. Like, not kayfabe (I don't think), for real.
If true and if MJF rejects him, will MJF be branded an intolerant homophobe?
 
When I think of wrestlers of the '70's and early '80's, I think of men with beer bellies. Not that there weren't men like Tony Atlas around, but physique was just not as important. Nowhere near the cut and chiseled muscular physique of most wrestlers today (which is one way I think Hulk Hogan changed wrestling).
True but most of them were 10 times the wrestlers that these muscled up guys and high flyers today are.
 
If true and if MJF rejects him, will MJF be branded an intolerant homophobe?
So far MJF has been the one guy who can cross lines other people can’t and seems to get away with it. Stuff like flipping off and cussing out little kids at meet and greets. Nearly anyone else today would be shredded online but he gets mostly praise for it.
 
Cultaholic's War Stories on Youtube is a good watch. Here's their breakdown of WWF's purchase of Georgia Championship Wrestling (which I was unaware of, or at least don't remember) in 1984. What I find interesting is the parallels between both the buyout in 2001 (like history repeating itself), and also the parallels about the criticism of WWF's style of wrestling to what we hear today about AEW:
 
Due to the Olympics NXT will air on SyFy on July 27th and August 3rd.

Really enjoyed last nights show, looks like Mandy Rose is with NXT going forward.

Hopefully Dynamite will be another good show this evening.
 
Jesus Christ! There is absolutely nothing in wrestling worse than the Young Bucks. They are less entertaining than Nia Jax. Anyone who likes these idiots need to jump head first off of a building. Omega is worse than dick cancer and he is stone cold Steve Austin compared to these two circus midget pieces of shit.
 
Jesus Christ! There is absolutely nothing in wrestling worse than the Young Bucks. They are less entertaining than Nia Jax. Anyone who likes these idiots need to jump head first off of a building. Omega is worse than dick cancer and he is stone cold Steve Austin compared to these two circus midget pieces of shit.
Hey, let's watch that less entertaining than Nia Jax stuff.
 
I can’t watch that shit. I’ve tried and tried to give AEW a fair shake but each time I see someone with a glimmer of talent like Guevara or the former WWF guys, I get some shit like these clowns, Omega, or some random No talent jobber pretending to be a wrestler. I know in Japan, the crowds have traditionally been very quiet and mild mannered. These idiots think they’re so over because in Japan is where they supposedly got famous. Maybe the Japanese folks just realize that they’re shit and are quiet because they see no reason to get up or loud.
 
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Jesus Christ! There is absolutely nothing in wrestling worse than the Young Bucks. They are less entertaining than Nia Jax. Anyone who likes these idiots need to jump head first off of a building. Omega is worse than dick cancer and he is stone cold Steve Austin compared to these two circus midget pieces of shit.

Sounds like you're an uncultured WWE fan who doesn't like six star matches, bro.

SIX STARS, BROOOO! MELTZER SAYS SO.

THEY CREATED TOO SWEET AND SUPERKICKS!
 
I thought the first hour of Dynamite was one of the best hours of TV they’ve done.
Second hour wasn’t quite as good for me anyway.

Hope the WWE fans are as good tomorrow night as the AEW fans have been the last two weeks.

NXT got a nice bump in the ratings with 705,000 on Tuesday.
 
Yeah, I feel that was one of the better AEW shows in a while.

I’m down for Omega/Page II; but please get the bucks and dark order out of the picture when they go one on one. I’ve said it before, but if the bucks just disappeared my enjoyment of AEW would go up a lot.

Darby is crazy, his back must be in constant pain.
 
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