CI Wrestling Thread #56

[Nightwish84]

Dragon won’t like your last line, but it’s true. The drama and verbal jousting sells tickets. The match is secondary. It doesn’t need to last an hour or feature 60 high spots to be good if the fans are invested in the story. Tell a story, use psychology and have the finish either pay it off or continue the story to the next show. Simple.

I love Osprey. I would gladly watch him wrestle anytime he has a match. But, his promos need work and while an excellent performer, I don’t see him attracting many new viewers to the product. Same for Okada. I do think Mone will draw some new viewers, but am not sure how many 10K, 50K 100K??

The FTR vs Juice and White match from Collision last year was incredible...and I'll never watch it again. Know what I've watched several times over the years though? Austin finding himself and stunning like ten WCW/ECW guys during the invasion angle. That's the night JR screamed, "Ohh...he's walkin'! He's talkin'!" as Austin was coming down the ramp with his head swaying from side to side talking his shit.

TK loves his not so subtle teases which in my view is dumb. Wanna get the most hype possible about Mercedes? Announce her signed weeks in advance and tell the wrestling world she's coming. Show weekly hype videos on every show you've got and let her promote it on every social media platform she has. Nope, we're just gonna say Bo$$ton and do a lil wink wink. If Dynamite does over 850,000 next week, I'll be shocked.

 

[Wesley91581]

I will give AEW props for this as well. It's all they need to do. Short video package, 30 seconds of background. If they plan to make one of these guys a bigger player, use vignettes or show highlight videos from their past work a few weeks before the debut. It would help the debuting talent get over. Surprise debuts work for established big stars, but not so much for relative unknowns.

Expecting everyone who watches the show to be well-versed in international wrestling wasn't a good move. I am hoping TK continues to give a brief intro to these one-off guys. I am reading Foley's first book now, and he mentioned when he was hired by the WWF they gave him a start date but started airing vignettes a month in advance to get their audience familiar with his character. That seems like the best way to avoid the "Who is this?" reaction from fans.

Yup I don’t remember them all but definitely did with
HHH
Goldust
Edge
Razor
Dibiase
Perfect

 

[Wesley91581]

Sting tells Bleacher Report that "Crow Sting" wasn't influenced by the movie 'The Crow,"

"I suppose possibly The Crow character may have had some influence but it was nothing that I ever really thought about until everybody said 'He's Crow Sting.' and I went 'Oh, okay. Yeah, I see that.' I saw the movie I think. I don't think I've seen the whole movie from beginning to end. I've just seen bits and pieces of it over the years, but I remember when it first came out.

"When I was developing this Crow character, I wasn't thinking about the movie at all. I was thinking about Kiss, I was thinking about Rocky Horror, I was thinking about Batman. And there's others that influenced me over the years."

 

[WildcatFan1982]

You cactus headed crack heads finally have something worth sticking in your veins

 

[WildcatFan1982]

Yup I don’t remember them all but definitely did with
HHH
Goldust
Edge
Razor
Dibiase
Perfect

Perfects were the best

 

[specialkd24]

The Rock is a fantastic heel.

 

[krazykats]

The rock turns on Roman at WM hence Cody saying he will take it all away, or something like that?

 

[specialkd24]

The rock turns on Roman at WM hence Cody saying he will take it all away, or something like that?

100 percent that is where this is going. Then eventually The Rock and Roman can wrestle (maybe SummerSlam).

 

[Col. Angus]

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I started to watch that til I noticed it’s 21 minutes.

**** all that. I was into it for the first 4 minutes though.

 

[ryanbruner]

Rock was cooking tonight. This entire storyline is intriguing. I can't wait to see what happens.

 

[Wesley91581]

They gonna have to turn Tiffy baby face twice in a row she’s being cheered…

…also Naomi sucks and didn’t even get an intro.

 

[Wesley91581]

100 percent that is where this is going. Then eventually The Rock and Roman can wrestle (maybe SummerSlam).

Yup that or WM 41

Heel rock > Face rock

“Go smoke some crack”

 

[Wesley91581]

Must be talking about dragon

 

[Wesley91581]

Lawler too

 

[Nightwish84]

Can't wait for Drew to come out Monday night and call Rollins a dumbass for getting himself involved in a tag match as well as a title match all in one weekend.

I would say WWE was piping in noise because the "You sold out" chant to Rock and Rey's return got HUGE reactions but nope, that's just a loud, sold out crowd having fun. Remember though, according to the voter nerds, Dynamite and Collision are both better than SD.

 

[K-mac18]

According to PwInsider the screen kept going dark because they are censoring the “Die Rocky Die” sign.

Why don’t they just confiscate it?

 

[ryanbruner]

Must be talking about dragon

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If you switched that Cody shirt out for a "Maki Itoh is my GOAT" shirt.

 

[ryanbruner]

This dude Claudio is wrestling on rampage is awful.

 

[Wesley91581]

Tony Khan comments on Wrestlers absence!

Not (WWE) related.

Former WWE Rusev now (Miro) has been in AEW since late 2020 when he moved on from being Rusev Day to Miro Day.

During 2022 he only Wrestled 4 matches and 2023 he Wrestled 7 matches. His last match of 2023 was against Andrade in December. According to some sources he has been out on injury but according to these new sources it doesn’t seem to be all that true.

Tony Khan recently discussed the change of plans ahead of his Meat Madness upcoming PPV.

He had the following to say…

“I wanted to put a lot of the big wrestlers and get the crowd fired up for a multi-man scramble, a Meat Madness match. I think the crowd would enjoy it and it would be a lot of fun, but some of the wrestlers I was hoping to use….right now, Miro and Keith Lee are both out. Neither one is available, and some of our big men being out injured, I wanted to have the depth in the field to do the match I originally envisioned and people would enjoy that

Following these comments Miro real name (Miroslav Barnyashev) commented on x about these claims.

Miro: I’ve been injured since September and i got medical attention in January. Sorry he wasn’t aware of it

The only i am reporting this is because of Miro’s recent tweet, fans have replied on x asking him to ask for his release.

It seems as of late Miro seems to be quite unhappy within his contract as per Andrade leaving for the same reason.

Should Rusev/Miro re-join WWE?!

 

[Wesley91581]

If you switched that Cody shirt out for a "Maki Itoh is my GOAT" shirt.

The Maki Itoh of rock and rolla!

 

[Wesley91581]

If you switched that Cody shirt out for a "Maki Itoh is my GOAT" shirt.

ACKNOWLEDGE HER!

 

[Nightwish84]

"Where is he?"
"Where is she?"
"Who the hell is that?"

Those are three questions wrestling fans routinely ask when it comes to AEW. Either the roster is too large because the excitable, messy haired fella wants to sign everyone believing quantity over quality and he's too nice to have a yearly future endeavors period or communication within the company as well as to us, including the wrestling media, is poor. Hint: all of that is true.

The guy creates something called Meat Madness (which is a dumb niche internet thing because when brutish guys have matches with other brutish guys, Fightful fans for example yell "MEAT" on the internet) and then he has to cancel it because he doesn't know the status of his own signed wrestlers. So this scramble is thrown together last minute which means I guess Wardlow wins and goes from squashing jobbers for years to automatically number one contender? Pretty captivating story...

 

[Wesley91581]

Great timing

 

[WildcatFan1982]

Hey Sting | The Players' Tribune

Sting hears voicemails from his family and AEW community as he retires.

projects.theplayerstribune.com

 

[Wesley91581]

This is embarrassing Jay white is on the pre-show?!?!?

A HUGE 12-Man Tag is set for #AEWRevolution ZERO HOUR!

#AEW World Trios Champions ‘Daddy Ass’ Billy Gunn & #TheAcclaimed (Bowens & Max Caster)
#ROH World 6-Man Champions #BulletClubGold (Jay White, Austin Gunn & Colten Gunn)
vs.
Jeff Jarrett, Jay Lethal, Satnam Singh, #PrivateParty (Isiah Kassidy & Marq Quen) & Willie Mack

TOMORROW!
#AEWRevolution ZERO HOUR
Starting at 6:30pm ET/3:30pm PT

 

[Wesley91581]

Mark Briscoe holy cow

 

[ryanbruner]

Great promo by Wardlow right now

 

[billCgmx]

Will probably catch some heat for this. I enjoyed the opening of Smackdown but 45 minutes of talk and no wrestling is just ridiculous.

 

[ryanbruner]

The crowd however is not great and its kind of depressing. I understand that AEW isn't the greatest right now but its not bad enough for the crowds to dip down like this. To me its still better than the early days when Marko Stunt and Sonny Kiss were getting air time.

 

[ryanbruner]

AEW needs to find a home base or book smaller venues at this point I can't take my eyes off of this miserable ass crowd.

 

[Wesley91581]

Great promo by Wardlow right now

Ya that’s 2 good promos for him - I guess he’s going all out bc this is probably his last shot at being in a main event given how many times he’s been forgotten

 

[ryanbruner]

Ya that’s 2 good promos for him - I guess he’s going all out bc this is probably his last shot at being in a main event given how many times he’s been forgotten

I'm rooting for him honestly would love to see him get a championship opportunity and see how the Adam Cole dynamic works out.

 

[GeraldV]

Will probably catch some heat for this. I enjoyed the opening of Smackdown but 45 minutes of talk and no wrestling is just ridiculous.

Yep. Then two women’s’ matches and a five second squash. That was horrible IMHO.

 

[Wesley91581]

Yep. Then two women’s’ matches and a five second squash. That was horrible IMHO.

Ya I think that promo was basically the show

They got tiffy on air

Damage ctrl wasn’t really a match more like expedited Dakota turning on Bayley

I think brekker would have gotten a couple more minutes but they cut it bc Rock prob went over his time

 

[ryanbruner]

Ya I think that promo was basically the show

They got tiffy on air

Damage ctrl wasn’t really a match more like expedited Dakota turning on Bayley

I think brekker would have gotten a couple more minutes but they cut it bc Rock prob went over his time

I liked the Breakker squash though so I can live with it.

 

[Wesley91581]

I liked the Breakker squash though so I can live with it.

Yup agree - SRS did in fact say those segments got cut short bc rock promo went over.

 

[Wesley91581]

 

[Wesley91581]

 

[Nightwish84]

- The Orton doc was quite good. Lots of OVW talk with some sweet standard definition footage. Never saw one of those old school OVW shows live but they used to have shows in the gym of my old elementary school after the school had closed. Riddle is just such a goof. You think his Jay and Silent Bob stoner thing is a gimmick then you listen to him. He became every California surfer kid stoner gimmick from the 90s and it's not appealing, at all.

- I know it's because of Sting but I can't wrap my head around AEW only getting like 3,000 fans or less for their weekly shows yet 16,000+ will be there tonight. Without it being about the legacy of Sting, they maybe get half that, but that's wild to me. It shows when TK wants to promote something special, he can do it. We've seen it several times.

 

[K-mac18]

You could do that for any wrestling show why not the WWE house show tonight?

Anyway Sting's last match, should he go out a winner or do the tradition of losing on the way out.

Also looks like Tony loves Kentucky as they will be doing Collision on April 13th at the Truist Bank Arena up in Northern Kentucky.