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It's close between Lyles and Towns. But there's no denying that since Poy went down, Lyles has been outstanding.Originally posted by Joneslab:
Raved about Lyles. Said every time they put the heart monitors on the big guys in games, Lyles is first every time.
Called him "scary" a couple of times.
Still tend to think he has the most upside of anyone on this team.
Lyles will be one of those players that is more successful in the pros than in college. Once he gets a little older and grows into his body (his upper body isn't close to where it'll be), he'll be very very good for a long time. He reminds me of a better Drew Gooden. Gooden has made a career on rebounding a bit and popping a midrange jumper, all while collecting 53 million dollars.Originally posted by Joneslab:
Raved about Lyles. Said every time they put the heart monitors on the big guys in games, Lyles is first every time.
Called him "scary" a couple of times.
Still tend to think he has the most upside of anyone on this team.
I like the Gooden comparison. ^^^Originally posted by StubbornPenny:
Lyles will be one of those players that is more successful in the pros than in college. Once he gets a little older and grows into his body (his upper body isn't close to where it'll be), he'll be very very good for a long time. He reminds me of a better Drew Gooden. Gooden has made a career on rebounding a bit and popping a midrange jumper, all while collecting 53 million dollars.Originally posted by Joneslab:
Raved about Lyles. Said every time they put the heart monitors on the big guys in games, Lyles is first every time.
Called him "scary" a couple of times.
Still tend to think he has the most upside of anyone on this team.
Lyles will be a better rebounder, have a better midrange jumper (it's already to the point where I'm surprised if it misses), and will make much more than 53 million dollars while playing a decade minimum. I don't think he'll be a superstar, but he'll be a starter for a long, long time.
IMHO, this is the most skilled class that Cal has hadOriginally posted by SilentsAreGolden:
There have been better classes as far as potential NBA talent, but I think this is Cal's most well-rounded and best class as far as each and every player being a quality ready-to-contribute freshman. Top to bottom there are no duds, or multi-year projects.
Well, he's stopped taking 3s. That's the big thing. He just doesn't have that range yet (talking in-game, I'm sure's nails in practice). Right now, he's money from 17-feet. A few years from now, in the pros, he'll be an excellent three-point shooter.Originally posted by wild mandu:
It's close between Lyles and Towns. But there's no denying that since Poy went down, Lyles has been outstanding.Originally posted by Joneslab:
Raved about Lyles. Said every time they put the heart monitors on the big guys in games, Lyles is first every time.
Called him "scary" a couple of times.
Still tend to think he has the most upside of anyone on this team.
The jumper on the wing is something the offense DESPERATELY needed.
This. ^^^^^^^Originally posted by Joneslab:
The class is helped greatly by the fact that they haven't been thrown into the fire.
Having this experience has allowed them to not have to do things they aren't comfortable with doing.
I think if the Harrisons would have left Ulis and Booker wouldn't be having the success they've had. We can all agree that Ulis is the better point guard than Andrew, but Ulis needs Andrew. At his size, he isn't going to be able to play 35 minutes a night and be the man and perform at the level he's performed at so far.
The experience has dragged the freshmen along with it, and vice versa. The make-up of this team is kind of manna.
Good call on your analysis too. All four seem so much more polished than the freshmen we've had, even the no brainer superstar types. They're so in control. I only have one criticism...Originally posted by bigbluelou:
I like the Gooden comparison. ^^^Originally posted by StubbornPenny:
Lyles will be one of those players that is more successful in the pros than in college. Once he gets a little older and grows into his body (his upper body isn't close to where it'll be), he'll be very very good for a long time. He reminds me of a better Drew Gooden. Gooden has made a career on rebounding a bit and popping a midrange jumper, all while collecting 53 million dollars.Originally posted by Joneslab:
Raved about Lyles. Said every time they put the heart monitors on the big guys in games, Lyles is first every time.
Called him "scary" a couple of times.
Still tend to think he has the most upside of anyone on this team.
Lyles will be a better rebounder, have a better midrange jumper (it's already to the point where I'm surprised if it misses), and will make much more than 53 million dollars while playing a decade minimum. I don't think he'll be a superstar, but he'll be a starter for a long, long time.
This UK freshman class is unique in my mind, because they are all four outstanding in their own ways. I don't think any one of the four completely outshines the others as has been the case with other classes.
Booker has become the great shooter we all expected but is much better defensively, athletically and in overall court savvy than *this guy* (me) expected.Ulis is simply an outstanding point guard, head up all the time, doesn't make mistakes, plays incredible defense, and can also shoot.Towns is starting to show more aggressiveness inside, is very smart, and it's clear the sky is the limit for him. Runs the floor like a gazelle, has great hands and footwork, and has great touch around the basket,Lyles is silent but deadly. Like you said, I'm surprised when he misses now. And he has ice in his veins, never changes his expression, just goes out and does work, hits the boards, and plays strong D. Love his game!I am SO much more impressed with this group than I thought I would be at this point in the season.
Agreed. He's playing much smarter, much more within himself. The 3 will come, but not right now. Knock down that midrange game and it's lights out.Originally posted by wcc31:
Well, he's stopped taking 3s. That's the big thing. He just doesn't have that range yet (talking in-game, I'm sure's nails in practice). Right now, he's money from 17-feet. A few years from now, in the pros, he'll be an excellent three-point shooter.Originally posted by wild mandu:
It's close between Lyles and Towns. But there's no denying that since Poy went down, Lyles has been outstanding.Originally posted by Joneslab:
Raved about Lyles. Said every time they put the heart monitors on the big guys in games, Lyles is first every time.
Called him "scary" a couple of times.
Still tend to think he has the most upside of anyone on this team.
The jumper on the wing is something the offense DESPERATELY needed.