And the Cal supporters blamed the awful game plan on Reed, who was not allowed to play his game.
Calipari ''“I’m not letting [Zvonimir Ivisic] shoot any threes,"
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Every big should shoot one or two a game in today’s game. Keeps defenses from packing it in and opens up the court. Why on this green Earth Cal thinks he’s the most clever person in the room I’ll never know.
The Reed, DJ and Rob had off games. Rob tried his best though to carry us at the end. The nerves got to them at first. Happens to freshman on a big stage.
That however doesn’t mean Cal didn’t absolutely screw the pooch once again. It’s gonna be real interesting to watch Arky this season.
So Cal is gonna clip the wings on Z and Brazile who are good shooters and probably give the green light to Wagner, Knox and Richmond who are not good shooters. Lmao Cal starting the season out playing 5 of your 9 players wrong. What's next put Thiero at PG and Fland at C?
Cal would never tell a lie unless his mouth was moving.
Yeah it's almost like you don't have to click on the threads.
It's bizarre his stance on this lol.
Because dude does understand efficiency numbers. I've seen him spout about them time after time after time. He's not completely clueless when it comes to statistics and more specifically per possession stats.
I've seen him talk about wanting "more turnovers" at times because fewer turnovers would have meant we weren't taking enough chances or playing fast enough on offense. He understood that 10 turnovers in a 50 possession game isn't the same as 10 turnovers in an 80 possession game. He clearly understands this.
It boggles the mind why he would want Big Z shooting less threes and more mid range jump shots which are by far the worst shot in basketball you can take.
Lol I get it when a coach says they aren't interested in numbers to have stances on these things. But when it comes from someone that clearly understands the numbers and STILL chooses to go against them, well.....that's just weird.
Because dude does understand efficiency numbers. I've seen him spout about them time after time after time. He's not completely clueless when it comes to statistics and more specifically per possession stats.
I've seen him talk about wanting "more turnovers" at times because fewer turnovers would have meant we weren't taking enough chances or playing fast enough on offense. He understood that 10 turnovers in a 50 possession game isn't the same as 10 turnovers in an 80 possession game. He clearly understands this.
It boggles the mind why he would want Big Z shooting less threes and more mid range jump shots which are by far the worst shot in basketball you can take.
Lol I get it when a coach says they aren't interested in numbers to have stances on these things. But when it comes from someone that clearly understands the numbers and STILL chooses to go against them, well.....that's just weird.
He is a 27% 3pt lifetime shooter. He needs to drastically improve that, or play closer to the basket. It appears his fabulous debut game last year was an anomaly … unfortunately.
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Zvonimir Ivisic - Career stats, game logs, leaderboard appearances, awards, and achievements for international club and tournament play
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He is a 27% 3pt lifetime shooter. He needs to drastically improve that, or play closer to the basket. It appears his fabulous debut game last year was an anomaly … unfortunately.
Zvonimir Ivisic International Stats | Basketball-Reference.com
Zvonimir Ivisic - Career stats, game logs, leaderboard appearances, awards, and achievements for international club and tournament play
UK Career Statistics for Zvonimir Ivisic
www.bigbluehistory.net
He's taken a grand total of 43 threes on that site. I don't think we could really determine much one way or the other from that lol.
So you mean somebody whispered the numbers into his ear and he regurgitated them.
He obviously hates analytics.
Reed and Rob with Reeves anyone?
Understanding the numbers means something different.
Pope can recite all of the numbers chapter and verse. He understands.
Perhaps he will even use them.
It was exactly half of his total attempts.
If a guy hits 25%, I’m not sure I want him taking more of them, especially when he’s 7’2” … obviously, he needs to keep shooting them in practice, though. He can improve ..
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Did they call him the Head Hog in this article? 😂😂😂 I would resign immediately.
Calipari talks new roles for Arkansas big men
Arkansas basketball players Trevon Brazile and Zvonimir Ivisic have new roles heading into the 2024-25 season.arkansas.rivals.com
“I’m not letting [Zvonimir Ivisic] shoot any threes," Calipari said. "Big Z, 7-foot-2, he wants to shoot – no, no, no. You’re not shooting threes, so now he has to shoot twos. You know why? An elbow jumper, when you miss that, it’s kind of embarrassing.
“A three when you’re 7-foot-2 and you’re way out there? Ah man, he almost made that. No, you’re shooting twos and that means you’re going to get in the gym and get better or you’re going to be embarrassed all the time. And you know what? He’s getting better.”
Calipari just wants his guys to be at their most effective – even if it’s cool to see a seven-footer cashing in threes. It’s clear the Head Hog wants to see his big men in more of a prototypical role, focusing on blocking shots and finishing on the inside out of post-ups and pick and rolls.
“He would just rather see me take a mid-range shot because I’m going to make that more than I make a three, probably,” Brazile said. “His resume speaks for itself, so I just try to do what he says. This summer I feel like I’ve made a lot of progress with not shooting threes and just being what he calls an ‘attack dog.’”
So happy this dude is out of here. Same shit, different state!
Calipari talks new roles for Arkansas big men
Arkansas basketball players Trevon Brazile and Zvonimir Ivisic have new roles heading into the 2024-25 season.
“I’m not letting [Zvonimir Ivisic] shoot any threes," Calipari said. "Big Z, 7-foot-2, he wants to shoot – no, no, no. You’re not shooting threes, so now he has to shoot twos. You know why? An elbow jumper, when you miss that, it’s kind of embarrassing.
“A three when you’re 7-foot-2 and you’re way out there? Ah man, he almost made that. No, you’re shooting twos and that means you’re going to get in the gym and get better or you’re going to be embarrassed all the time. And you know what? He’s getting better.”
Calipari just wants his guys to be at their most effective – even if it’s cool to see a seven-footer cashing in threes. It’s clear the Head Hog wants to see his big men in more of a prototypical role, focusing on blocking shots and finishing on the inside out of post-ups and pick and rolls.
“He would just rather see me take a mid-range shot because I’m going to make that more than I make a three, probably,” Brazile said. “His resume speaks for itself, so I just try to do what he says. This summer I feel like I’ve made a lot of progress with not shooting threes and just being what he calls an ‘attack dog.’”
So happy this dude is out of here. Same shit, different state!
Nah, he's just a plain hog... Was a Cow, now he morphed... Will fit right in with the crowd of more than two genders. (Please don't take it political.) It was meant as a comparison. Anyone can be anything... Even a Cow can be a hog...
The guy was miss used last year and he followed the clown coach for moreCalipari talks new roles for Arkansas big men
Arkansas basketball players Trevon Brazile and Zvonimir Ivisic have new roles heading into the 2024-25 season.
“I’m not letting [Zvonimir Ivisic] shoot any threes," Calipari said. "Big Z, 7-foot-2, he wants to shoot – no, no, no. You’re not shooting threes, so now he has to shoot twos. You know why? An elbow jumper, when you miss that, it’s kind of embarrassing.
“A three when you’re 7-foot-2 and you’re way out there? Ah man, he almost made that. No, you’re shooting twos and that means you’re going to get in the gym and get better or you’re going to be embarrassed all the time. And you know what? He’s getting better.”
Calipari just wants his guys to be at their most effective – even if it’s cool to see a seven-footer cashing in threes. It’s clear the Head Hog wants to see his big men in more of a prototypical role, focusing on blocking shots and finishing on the inside out of post-ups and pick and rolls.
“He would just rather see me take a mid-range shot because I’m going to make that more than I make a three, probably,” Brazile said. “His resume speaks for itself, so I just try to do what he says. This summer I feel like I’ve made a lot of progress with not shooting threes and just being what he calls an ‘attack dog.’”
So happy this dude is out of here. Same shit, different state!
Karl Anthony Towns might disagree
I understand that many are tired of Cal-related threads. However, to be fair, his departure was very recent as the next season hasn't even started yet. In addition, I don't remember any of those previous coaches speaking in such a belittling way to the fanbase...so, that has created more animosity, which has driven many of the conversations.
That’s the thing with him. He’s 240 pounds and got pushed around. He’s no small guy as is.
Sounds good to me. Makes me feel even better about UK vs Arkansas this coming season in Rupp.
Cal is a coaching moron.
Cal is a coaching moron.
Some people are so in love with Cal they keep bringing his name up. Wow
Of course they didn’t talk in a belittling way to the fan base. Why would any coach that had has their #1 objective the UK basketball program success and winning championships would not belittle the games best fan base…oh yes, that wasn’t his top priority and he told all us worthless pions so.
Well, we agree on that... so, I think we should expect that single frustration to be a large reason why his name will continue to frequently surface at least thru this next season.
We might have #9 if the best shooting big man in the NBA was allowed to play more than five feet from the basket.
I’m so GD happy that I don’t have to hear his nonsense going into the season anymore. “I have the best 3 point shooting team in the nation, but this year we won’t shoot a 3 guys. I will play 3 big men and we will shoot only 20 foot jumpers. It will work because nobody expects it.”
- John Calipari on his 2024 Arkansas team.
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I hope we run 1-3-1 all game just to prove that Cal can’t beat it.
Yeah.
I've been saying it for a minute now. We can blame the players for 1 season. Maybe 2. But 2021: NIT. 2022: 1st round exit. 2023: 2nd round exit. 2024: 1st round exit.
The players continue to leave. The roster continues to turn over. Yet some people keep singing "Cal can't make shots for them."
Cool. Why is it Bill Self's players don't need him to make shots for them? Why is it Alabama fans aren't having to stop and blame the players every 2 weeks?
Either Cal recruited bad players--(2 top 10 draft picks, so that's probably not the case), or he's not preparing them and putting them in the right situations. It can't always be the players when you have new players every single year.
In theory Cal reasoning is sound.... make the player work on their weakness.
That's great and all but he treats College as a development league for the NBA... I absolutely believe he has thrown games trying to prove a point to his players and or fanbase.
He never understood his job... it was to win games and championships not put players in the NBA. He could of stayed at Memphis or anywhere else and done that if that was his goal
That's great and all but he treats College as a development league for the NBA... I absolutely believe he has thrown games trying to prove a point to his players and or fanbase.
He never understood his job... it was to win games and championships not put players in the NBA. He could of stayed at Memphis or anywhere else and done that if that was his goal
But that's another thing that I don't get about this.
Isn't Cal all about getting players to the NBA. Don't they shoot a boat load of threes in the NBA..........even the big men?
How does not shooting 3s help Big Z here.
Isn't Cal all about getting players to the NBA. Don't they shoot a boat load of threes in the NBA..........even the big men?
How does not shooting 3s help Big Z here.
I do understand the aversion to shooting a ton of threes tho. The fact is that 2s are just more consistent than 3s and in a one and done tournament I think you want to go with what is most consistent.
But not at the expense of taking more mid range jump shots lol.
Look at Nate Oats Alabama teams shot chart. Take shots at the rim or take them behind the line
But not at the expense of taking more mid range jump shots lol.
Look at Nate Oats Alabama teams shot chart. Take shots at the rim or take them behind the line
might have had #9 if the idiot of a coach had made the ball go inside to KAT instead of ignoring him
3 of our 4 consecutive catastrophic shot clock violations were plays down low into towns where he got doubled and kicked it out. That team needed to incorporate space, not box themselves in.
To understand this stance by Cal, you first have to understand Cal. He’s only worried about improving Z’s draft stock and this is how he does that in his mind. It’s not about winning games now, same as when he was here. All about draft night.
Cal is going to make Z the next Skal 2.0. And I like Z but he isn’t a banger.
For reference and possible discussion, here are the top twenty-five (25) teams ranked by three-point attempts last season … average record was 19-14:
| OFF | DEF | MGN | |||||||||
| ATT | 3PT% | FTA | ORB | DRB | REBS | PTS | PTS | PTS | W | L | |
| NORTH FLORIDA | 33.2 | 36.03% | 16.9 | 8.88 | 24.75 | 33.63 | 78.0 | 75.8 | 2.2 | 16 | 16 |
| BYU | 32.0 | 34.77% | 16.1 | 11.91 | 27.59 | 39.50 | 81.4 | 69.9 | 11.5 | 23 | 11 |
| COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON | 30.6 | 34.33% | 17.9 | 13.06 | 26.71 | 39.77 | 80.9 | 73.6 | 7.3 | 27 | 8 |
| ALABAMA | 29.9 | 37.27% | 22.8 | 12.76 | 26.89 | 39.65 | 90.1 | 81.2 | 8.9 | 25 | 12 |
| FURMAN | 29.9 | 32.39% | 20.0 | 11.24 | 26.55 | 37.79 | 79.5 | 75.9 | 3.6 | 17 | 16 |
| CORNELL | 29.7 | 34.75% | 16.7 | 9.57 | 25.87 | 35.44 | 82.1 | 74.7 | 7.4 | 22 | 8 |
| PRINCETON | 29.4 | 35.60% | 16.1 | 8.41 | 24.90 | 33.31 | 77.1 | 66.6 | 10.5 | 24 | 5 |
| CHATTANOOGA | 29.4 | 35.94% | 18.2 | 9.24 | 27.30 | 36.54 | 78.2 | 71.6 | 6.6 | 21 | 12 |
| CREIGHTON | 29.1 | 36.84% | 14.8 | 8.40 | 29.71 | 38.11 | 80.4 | 69.9 | 10.5 | 25 | 10 |
| ARKANSAS - PINE BLUFF | 29.0 | 37.53% | 22.0 | 8.42 | 26.19 | 34.61 | 80.1 | 81.8 | -1.7 | 13 | 18 |
| UTSA | 28.8 | 33.73% | 21.9 | 13.09 | 27.19 | 40.28 | 77.6 | 81.0 | -3.4 | 11 | 21 |
| INDIANA STATE | 28.7 | 38.16% | 19.3 | 7.15 | 28.31 | 35.46 | 84.8 | 73.2 | 11.6 | 32 | 7 |
| KENNESAW STATE | 28.6 | 32.88% | 22.0 | 12.26 | 26.58 | 38.84 | 82.8 | 80.8 | 2.0 | 15 | 16 |
| SAINT JOSEPH'S | 28.5 | 35.24% | 17.1 | 10.09 | 25.71 | 35.80 | 75.5 | 70.5 | 5.0 | 21 | 14 |
| WILLIAM & MARY | 27.8 | 32.31% | 18.8 | 10.33 | 24.85 | 35.18 | 69.8 | 72.1 | -2.3 | 10 | 23 |
| LIBERTY | 27.5 | 36.82% | 14.8 | 8.72 | 25.25 | 33.97 | 73.8 | 65.5 | 8.3 | 18 | 14 |
| VILLANOVA | 27.4 | 33.76% | 15.3 | 8.47 | 26.35 | 34.82 | 70.2 | 65.6 | 4.6 | 18 | 16 |
| NEW HAMPSHIRE | 27.4 | 32.43% | 18.2 | 9.19 | 28.23 | 37.42 | 74.1 | 74.1 | 0.0 | 16 | 15 |
| YOUNGSTOWN STATE | 27.2 | 32.34% | 18.4 | 12.78 | 27.19 | 39.97 | 81.2 | 70.9 | 10.3 | 22 | 10 |
| HOFSTRA | 27.0 | 37.08% | 12.5 | 7.70 | 25.06 | 32.76 | 74.2 | 68.5 | 5.7 | 20 | 13 |
| PITTSBURGH | 26.9 | 35.74% | 18.5 | 11.39 | 25.67 | 37.06 | 75.6 | 67.6 | 8.0 | 22 | 11 |
| ARKANSAS STATE | 26.8 | 34.41% | 20.6 | 13.22 | 25.14 | 38.36 | 78.8 | 77.0 | 1.8 | 20 | 17 |
| WOFFORD | 26.6 | 35.92% | 16.6 | 10.53 | 26.66 | 37.19 | 74.5 | 73.8 | 0.7 | 17 | 15 |
| GEORGIA SOUTHERN | 26.6 | 35.19% | 17.3 | 10.52 | 23.73 | 34.25 | 73.3 | 79.2 | -5.9 | 9 | 24 |
| UC - RIVERSIDE | 26.6 | 31.75% | 17.8 | 12.35 | 24.59 | 36.94 | 70.7 | 72.0 | -1.3 | 16 | 18 |
| AVERAGE | 28.6 | 34.93% | 18.0 | 10.39 | 26.28 | 36.67 | 77.8 | 73.3 | 4.5 | 19 | 14 |
| UCONN | 23.8 | 35.75% | 18.9 | 11.72 | 27.10 | 38.82 | 81.4 | 63.4 | 18.0 | 37 | 3 |
| KENTUCKY | 24.2 | 40.88% | 19.7 | 10.06 | 27.55 | 37.61 | 89.0 | 79.7 | 9.3 | 23 | 10 |
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I agree he is not a banger. But he is more able to play in the post than Skal. Much more. Richards wasn't a banger, no bigger, stronger, thicker than Z, but was able to play the post. I get wanting him to focus on the post moves, footwork, etc... He will shoot 3's on his own time, so as long as he makes a decent %, I would let/want him shooting some (2-4/gm).
So, I'm glad he's saying he won't let him shoot them this year. Hope he sticks to it, especially when we play them. Makes it less of a reason to guard him more than 15' away.
More proof about how limited Cal"s coaching ability.Calipari talks new roles for Arkansas big men
Arkansas basketball players Trevon Brazile and Zvonimir Ivisic have new roles heading into the 2024-25 season.
“I’m not letting [Zvonimir Ivisic] shoot any threes," Calipari said. "Big Z, 7-foot-2, he wants to shoot – no, no, no. You’re not shooting threes, so now he has to shoot twos. You know why? An elbow jumper, when you miss that, it’s kind of embarrassing.
“A three when you’re 7-foot-2 and you’re way out there? Ah man, he almost made that. No, you’re shooting twos and that means you’re going to get in the gym and get better or you’re going to be embarrassed all the time. And you know what? He’s getting better.”
Calipari just wants his guys to be at their most effective – even if it’s cool to see a seven-footer cashing in threes. It’s clear the Head Hog wants to see his big men in more of a prototypical role, focusing on blocking shots and finishing on the inside out of post-ups and pick and rolls.
“He would just rather see me take a mid-range shot because I’m going to make that more than I make a three, probably,” Brazile said. “His resume speaks for itself, so I just try to do what he says. This summer I feel like I’ve made a lot of progress with not shooting threes and just being what he calls an ‘attack dog.’”
So happy this dude is out of here. Same shit, different state!
