Cal fumbling with line ups going into February

[ManitouDan]

haven't read any of the this thread but I see where the OP is coming from .. I'm HOT about Z getting buried last. night .. Yes Ugo played pretty well. Provided some rim protection .. but Ark isnt some great team that gonna test a Final Four team . So Bradshaw is playing really bad .. really bad , and Z gets zero minutes in half 2 . None .
So going forward We get Dilly back( I assume ??) and Robs gotta play Shep has to play . Mitchell has to play . No way hes backing off DJ any . Not gonna happen . And at the 5 we have 3 guys . I'll say it here , again .. Ugo was good last night but he's not ready for sweet 16 - elite 8 comp . He gives you nothing on offense .. So we have AB who looks like hes fading fast . Wants to be a 4 , gets pushed around , not sure what's he's giving us .. And Z who looked like a phenom in 1 game , then didnt contribute in a game .. so you bury him in his 3rd game back ? This type of thing is why I dont trust Cal to play the right guys the most minutes .. There could be a 1/2 dozen criminal levels of roster mismanagement in just the past few years . Quickly not starting foooorever . Playing BJ , on and on .. so not being somewhat settled by FEB is very concerning . We shall see.

 

[ManitouDan]

Go back to McDonalds game. I’d never seen any of them but had read numerous comments about them on this board.

Edwards was a surprise as he was being touted as highNBA pick. In MD game he was hardly noticeable and that hasn’t changed.

AB was touted as a stretch 4 but Cal plays him at the 5. In MD game it seemed he was not strong and not a good rebounder. Still the same. Can hit shots out to the arc.

DJ hyped as driver with average shot who could take over a game. In MD game he shot poorly until the end when he actually did take over the game. At UK still the same. Average shooter at best and against the right opponents can get to the rim. Will try to take over games but can’t do it often at this level.

RD was a mixed bag with both positive and negative comments going in. Mostly a plus in actual game and has been the best of them this year.

Comments on Reed imo I took with a grain of salt because he’s white. Some, at least a few on here, just knew he couldn’t be that good. In MD game he looked like he belonged. Still looks that way. Some of the comments now still a bit extreme on both sides indicating the black/white thing still colors some folks opinions.

Does anyone see these things changing the rest of the year? I don’t.

IMO
Dilly should start and play about 30 minutes. Reeves/Tre 30 minutes. O start at center with AB and Z getting plenty of opportunities. May the best one get most of the PT. Anyone who thinks Z should sit because he’s way behind is just one of Cal’s useful idiots. Tre could also get some of his minutes at the 5 with the small ball lineup say about 10.

That leaves 80 minutes to split between Reed, DJ, and Adou.

Reed 25+
DJ 20+
Adou 20+
JE 10+ (15,max)

Repeat JMO and for those wondering, No, I have never coached.

The old saying about porn applies here I think.

Altho I’ve never coached I know good/bad when I see it.

excellent write up

 

[chattanoogawildcat]

If Edwards had the same amount of stars by his name as Burkes and Hart, he would be parked down on the bench next to them. Yet he’s started every game.

Burkes lol

 

[kywildcat41086]

Musselman has a mess on his hands right now. But over the last 3 seasons he has 2 elite 8’s and one sweet 16.
We have ONE NCAAT win in that same span.
Unacceptable at UK IMO.

Exactly if any other coach would’ve done that here at UK they would’ve been fired heck 9-16 would’ve gotten them fired instantly….. If we only had an athletic director with a backbone!

 

[fastpaste101]

I mean line ups will change when you have a late season addition and injuries. I do hope he can figure it out quickly though and settle things down.

 

[JonathanW]

Go back to McDonalds game. I’d never seen any of them but had read numerous comments about them on this board.

Edwards was a surprise as he was being touted as highNBA pick. In MD game he was hardly noticeable and that hasn’t changed.

AB was touted as a stretch 4 but Cal plays him at the 5. In MD game it seemed he was not strong and not a good rebounder. Still the same. Can hit shots out to the arc.

DJ hyped as driver with average shot who could take over a game. In MD game he shot poorly until the end when he actually did take over the game. At UK still the same. Average shooter at best and against the right opponents can get to the rim. Will try to take over games but can’t do it often at this level.

RD was a mixed bag with both positive and negative comments going in. Mostly a plus in actual game and has been the best of them this year.

Comments on Reed imo I took with a grain of salt because he’s white. Some, at least a few on here, just knew he couldn’t be that good. In MD game he looked like he belonged. Still looks that way. Some of the comments now still a bit extreme on both sides indicating the black/white thing still colors some folks opinions.

Does anyone see these things changing the rest of the year? I don’t.

IMO
Dilly should start and play about 30 minutes. Reeves/Tre 30 minutes. O start at center with AB and Z getting plenty of opportunities. May the best one get most of the PT. Anyone who thinks Z should sit because he’s way behind is just one of Cal’s useful idiots. Tre could also get some of his minutes at the 5 with the small ball lineup say about 10.

That leaves 80 minutes to split between Reed, DJ, and Adou.

Reed 25+
DJ 20+
Adou 20+
JE 10+ (15,max)

Repeat JMO and for those wondering, No, I have never coached.

The old saying about porn applies here I think.

Altho I’ve never coached I know good/bad when I see it.

Bradshaw spends a good bit of time out by the 3pt line, so I don’t see how you are saying Cal plays him as a 5. Unless you mean on defense. Well yeah, he’s 7-freakin-1. And who you guard on D shouldn’t matter to you, if you plan to lay in the NBA you had better get used to guarding big grownass men.
As for Dillingham playing more, I think we would all like to see that. And we are getting there as Edwards minutes keep going down and down. Although Rob-D does limit his minutes himself sometimes with silly fouls. Multiple games he’s been limited because he got 4 fouls, or 3 early.

Personally I would go:
18 Onyenso
16 Ivisic
26 Mitchell
10 Bradshaw
20 Theiro
6 Edwards
26 Reeves
26 Sheppard
26 Wagner
26 Dillingham (if stay out of foul trouble)
But if someone, even Edwards, is having a really good game, give him extra run.

 

[ArtLaibsGhost]

What he does from here on out will determine how far this team can go.

Shep
Dillingham
Reeves
Mitchell
Ugo

That’s the best 5 right there, with a lot of great weapons to rotate in off the bench

In no universe will Cal start that, Wagner will ALWAYS start while he is here

 

[bucsrule8872]

Unless something changes, we will have 7 guys that will need to play in the postseason. Those seven need to be in the game most of the time. Cal will play an 8th man, but he’s not going to play significant minutes, most likely.

Rotation:

G Sheppard/Wagner
G Wagner/Dillingham
G Reeves/Wagner
F Mitchell/Thiero
F Onyenso/Mitchell

Unless Ivisic, Bradshaw, or Edwards really come on in February, those are the 7 Cal will trust in the postseason.

Playing Reeves at the 3 is the key, IMHO. That keeps our guards on the floor all the time.

Mitchell playing the 5 for some small ball play will create mismatches and mean that teams will have another wrinkle to prepare for. That gets Thiero on the floor more as well.

Now I’m not saying that Ivisic and/or Bradshaw should never play, but in tight games, in the second half, it’s time to roll with the best guys. That’s the 7 I mentioned.

 

[ManitouDan]

^^ Thats not bad but I. see Z overtaking Ugo when it all works out

 

[bucsrule8872]

^^ Thats not bad but I. see Z overtaking Ugo when it all works out

When Ivisic is ready to play, then move him up the list.

Let him and Onyenso split the 5 spot most of the time.

Until then, I play Onyenso. He may not be as exciting, but he is steadier. He hasn’t hurt us when he is in there.

 

[OmahaCats]

He has become notorious for this. I don’t know of any other coach who does this. Is it because he concentrates on his 5 stars draft pick status? I believe it is.
Any other coach starts their best 5 then brings the others off the bench in order of how good they are.

It’s bc he’s got 10 guys. And a few have just recently started playing. He’s trying to figure out good combinations. It’s pretty normal actually. It’ll become more consistent in a few weeks

 

[catlogic15]

Cal will not allow Z to overshadow Ugo now. You‘ll see.

 

[CatPhight]

Put me on the record, if this year is disappointing, I’m for moving on. But that is because of the last three years, combined with the last final four. If you were saying shit back in 2020, you’re retarded.

Learn to count...

 

[Mike-McD]

I mean line ups will change when you have a late season addition and injuries. I do hope he can figure it out quickly though and settle things down.

Oh sure it's not like Cal had any issues with lineups last year. Remember the Bennie lineup?

 

[Hoskins91]

Go back to McDonalds game. I’d never seen any of them but had read numerous comments about them on this board.

Edwards was a surprise as he was being touted as highNBA pick. In MD game he was hardly noticeable and that hasn’t changed.

AB was touted as a stretch 4 but Cal plays him at the 5. In MD game it seemed he was not strong and not a good rebounder. Still the same. Can hit shots out to the arc.

DJ hyped as driver with average shot who could take over a game. In MD game he shot poorly until the end when he actually did take over the game. At UK still the same. Average shooter at best and against the right opponents can get to the rim. Will try to take over games but can’t do it often at this level.

RD was a mixed bag with both positive and negative comments going in. Mostly a plus in actual game and has been the best of them this year.

Comments on Reed imo I took with a grain of salt because he’s white. Some, at least a few on here, just knew he couldn’t be that good. In MD game he looked like he belonged. Still looks that way. Some of the comments now still a bit extreme on both sides indicating the black/white thing still colors some folks opinions.

Does anyone see these things changing the rest of the year? I don’t.

IMO
Dilly should start and play about 30 minutes. Reeves/Tre 30 minutes. O start at center with AB and Z getting plenty of opportunities. May the best one get most of the PT. Anyone who thinks Z should sit because he’s way behind is just one of Cal’s useful idiots. Tre could also get some of his minutes at the 5 with the small ball lineup say about 10.

That leaves 80 minutes to split between Reed, DJ, and Adou.

Reed 25+
DJ 20+
Adou 20+
JE 10+ (15,max)

Repeat JMO and for those wondering, No, I have never coached.

The old saying about porn applies here I think.

Altho I’ve never coached I know good/bad when I see it.

“I don’t know what I’m talking about but take me seriously”

 

[Hoskins91]

Cal will not allow Z to overshadow Ugo now. You‘ll see.

He had one good game…can we wait to see him do it again before pushing conspiracies?

 

[Hoskins91]

Oh sure it's not like Cal had any issues with lineups last year. Remember the Bennie lineup?

I find it funny how so many people seem to think last years team was super talented.

 

[Wonky]

He had one good game…can we wait to see him do it again before pushing conspiracies?

Why don’t you ask Cal? We ain’t gonna see it again with him playing 2 minutes. Do you honestly think Bradshaw has a higher ceiling than Z? What is your justification for playing AB that much?

 

[tomrain]

He didn't start yesterday. I get your whole thing is to be as negative as possible but at least get the facts right.

And dude you must have a crappy life as miserable as you are about a game.

But his leg was hurting according to Cal, that is why he didnt start him, nothing to do with the fact he has sucked all year long. So now, Im wondering if his leg is healthy this week, does he go back into the starting lineup? Wouldnt be fair to remove a guy from the lineup due to a slight injury. LMAO Cal

 

[Wonky]

But his leg was hurting according to Cal, that is why he didnt start him, nothing to do with the fact he has sucked all year long.

Yeah he sure played plenty for a guy with a hurt leg. Cal’s excuse for not starting him was BS… trying to “save face” as he’s done in the past. I don’t know why Cal feels the need to bullshit the fans instead of just admitting he was wrong. His ego just can’t handle it. Kind of sad for a 60+ year old man. Or did he think he was protecting Edwards’ feelings? Are these kids really that fragile?

 

[Cowtown Cat]

Clear as day, JE and AB should be the odd men out. They give us nothing. I know AB has looked decent in a few games, but he looks lost. Doesn’t impact the game whatsoever on either side. JE hasn’t done jack shit all season.

Not sure why @jameslee32 thinks this is so hilarious. It’s basically the consensus across the entire fan base that neither Edwards or Bradshaw should be playing much, if at all. It’s quite obvious.

 

[Mike-McD]

I find it funny how so many people seem to think last years team was super talented.

Another straw man. Do you hear voices in your head? Because I didn't say that.

 

[ManitouDan]

He had one good game…can we wait to see him do it again before pushing conspiracies?

Ugo had 4. and 6 VS Ark in 25 min .. and a couple blocks (cant find number). Z had 5 and 13 with a couple blocks , 2 assist , and 4-4 from 3 in 16 minutes .... but yet people thing Ugo's " great " game carries more weight than Z's .. I'm not buying it .