C. Rodriguez (grapevine ?)
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My response rambles so apologies in advance.Again, I’d remind folks that UK is prohibited by federal law from issuing that type of press release unless UK first receives permission from the students involved.
If the details are being withheld, it’s because Rodriguez and whomever else is involved want to maintain their privacy in this matter and we should respect that.
This is a disciplinary matter between them and the University and it’s not really any of our business.
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I don't doubt the presence of the law. However, FERPA is an obstacle the school must navigate (through students' permission to release for example) if they want to manage the narrative and ultimately protect their slightly mischievous student-athletes from unsubstantiated rumors that can harm their pro prospects later on.
But in light of FERPA: How and why do we find out about NCAA violations involving student athletes? The article linked below openly names Silvio De Sousa from the KU scandal.
Attorney: Adidas OK'd payment at Self's request
An attorney for Adidas executive James Gatto said Gatto approved a $20K payment to the guardian of Kansas player Silvio De Sousa only after coach Bill Self requested it.
Seems to be inconsistently implemented. Why do we know about former UF and FSU QBs stealing everything from laptops to crab-legs...players on-their-liquor being disorderly at Frat houses....boorish behavior with coeds?
I support CR & Co being able to play if the infraction is as minor as most are saying. But I can't get behind the idea that it cannot be addressed publicly? I sort of understand if the athletes are underage, but it would seem to me, activities at a public university (to include the university med center), by adult student/athletes, engaged in employment that might otherwise have gone to non-student/athletes would be releasable by the school/subject of FOIA by the public & press.
My heavens, you get a PFC in the army that drives his car off the road in Japan, and the soldier's name is splashed all over the newspapers in 11 time-zones...to include the follow-on NJP or court martial actions and punishments. Why do their college counterparts receive such protection? Is it the innocent until proven guilty hallmark? Once adjudicated, how long does FERPA supposedly protect the privacy of a student who commits a wrongdoing in a public environment?
Bottom line: UK is not only shooting behind the duck....they're a day late for the duck hunt in their handling of this. UK athletics is part of a billion dollar industry, yet the staff has grade school skills when handling these matters.
just my $0.02.
GBB!
It is true. They’re paid much more here than in other countries. About twice as much. Not the only reason our hills are huge but it’s part.
That's easy to say but I don't buy it. It's the nature of media to want to expose things and draw attention to themselves. It's also unlikely that everyone who works at media in those areas, news paper, television, online media, etc., are fans of the local teams. Media employees come from all over the country just like other employees do. If you look at media in Kentucky, many aren't from the area they work in. They have no loyalty or history with local teams. The same will be true in those areas as well. It's just not plausible that someone gets fired for doing the right thing and no one ever finds out because every single person is a fan of that team and wants to protect it.
Typo corrected below, the 4 should have been caps so it was a $ sign, ONLY $1,888 for the emergency room doctor, my contact with him was ten minutes at the most. The hospital didn't bother to bill me, probably knew it wouldn't get paid..
In the KU example you linked, the source of that information was the attorney representing one of the Adidas employees charged with defrauding KU. Neither the Adidas employee nor his attorney are bound by FERPA and can say what they want.My response rambles so apologies in advance.
I don't doubt the presence of the law. However, FERPA is an obstacle the school must navigate (through students' permission to release for example) if they want to manage the narrative and ultimately protect their slightly mischievous student-athletes from unsubstantiated rumors that can harm their pro prospects later on.
But in light of FERPA: How and why do we find out about NCAA violations involving student athletes? The article linked below openly names Silvio De Sousa from the KU scandal.
Attorney: Adidas OK'd payment at Self's request
An attorney for Adidas executive James Gatto said Gatto approved a $20K payment to the guardian of Kansas player Silvio De Sousa only after coach Bill Self requested it.www.espn.com
Seems to be inconsistently implemented. Why do we know about former UF and FSU QBs stealing everything from laptops to crab-legs...players on-their-liquor being disorderly at Frat houses....boorish behavior with coeds?
I support CR & Co being able to play if the infraction is as minor as most are saying. But I can't get behind the idea that it cannot be addressed publicly? I sort of understand if the athletes are underage, but it would seem to me, activities at a public university (to include the university med center), by adult student/athletes, engaged in employment that might otherwise have gone to non-student/athletes would be releasable by the school/subject of FOIA by the public & press.
My heavens, you get a PFC in the army that drives his car off the road in Japan, and the soldier's name is splashed all over the newspapers in 11 time-zones...to include the follow-on NJP or court martial actions and punishments. Why do their college counterparts receive such protection? Is it the innocent until proven guilty hallmark? Once adjudicated, how long does FERPA supposedly protect the privacy of a student who commits a wrongdoing in a public environment?
Bottom line: UK is not only shooting behind the duck....they're a day late for the duck hunt in their handling of this. UK athletics is part of a billion dollar industry, yet the staff has grade school skills when handling these matters.
just my $0.02.
GBB!
In other cases, student conduct is sometimes made public because there is an arrest made and those law enforcement records are not held by the university and therefore also not subject to FERPA. Those are public records and that’s why we have the details on Rodriguez’s DUI as an example.
Courts have ruled that disciplinary records are considered to be an educational record under FERPA (e.g., US v Miami University), and therefore cannot be released by schools to the public without authorization by the student or in some limited instances specified by law (e.g., limited information related to violent or sexual offenses can be released without permission once resolved).
Long story short, there are significant differences why information has come out in other situations and not for Rodriguez, and UK is doing what’s appropriate under law.
If you don’t like that, then you should take up your grievance with Rodriguez and let him know that you feel you’re owed an explanation.
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Everyone involved isn't a fan of the team but maybe their boss is, why risk your job?
Their boss won't be either. I know that over the years the Courier Journal and Lexington Herald have had sports editors that were not fans of either UK or U of L because they were not from here. It's highly unlikely that something like that can happen and every person who knows about it falls in line and zips their mouth. It's just unrealistic in my opinion. It's nearly impossible to get a large group of people to remain silent about something.
Say, haven't I noticed some of your posts before that had an anti UK sports bias. Maybe you should take the UK out of your moniker, or do you work in UK's athletic department? That's definitely a possibility.Again, I’d remind folks that UK is prohibited by federal law from issuing that type of press release unless UK first receives permission from the students involved.
If the details are being withheld, it’s because Rodriguez and whomever else is involved want to maintain their privacy in this matter and we should respect that.
This is a disciplinary matter between them and the University and it’s not really any of our business.
Student Conduct | Student Success
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Lots of strange things happen in our Sports department, also strange that a large group of people would all zip their mouth about anything.
I work and have lived all over the original SEC footprint. I respectively disagree with you Cat In the Hat.The media in the places mentioned above are nearly if not 100% grads of those schools and will do everything they can to protect at all costs.
I was simply reminding folks of the limitations FERPA places on the University to protect students’ privacy. FERPA exists whether you like it or not and if you take issue with it then I’d suggest you contact your Congressman or Senator.
For non-violent disciplinary issues, FERPA places Rodriguez in control of what is made public. Rather than complaining about what UK is or isn’t doing, how about folks support our student athletes by respecting their right to privacy.
Agree. We know this almost surely didn't happen otherwise there wouldn't be time sheets at all.
Stoops explicitly said that during his press conference yesterday. Said its out of his hands and involves his boss and his boss' boss. One would guess that's the ad and pres
If it is an IRS problem it should take a while for it to be prosecuted, plenty of time to correct it. Easy to make a mistake in the jungle that is the IRS.
But they can make the suspension public? Odd. And they could address the situation without directly naming names. Again, UK is handling this very weirdly.
I agree, but to be fair no one in Lexington has done that in regards to whatever this is either.
I had TWO doctors bills for an emergency room visit, one for $1200 and another for $2200, only talked to one of them for less than 5 minutes before they shipped me to another hospital, I was only there for about an hour total. I went by ambulance to another hospital about an hour away. They already had another patient going and asked me if I minded doubling up, I didn't need any attention so I said no problem, sat on a bench for the trip no attention at all. My ambulance bill was like $1200 so I assume they didn't split the bill, charged me and the lady full amount no doubt. I got billed for all of them for months although I told them the VA covered everything, finally quit after months, no idea what the VA paid but from other bills I am sure it wasn't that much. I think the VA does a great job.
I KNOW this is true because I was there.
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Is that the only possible answer?Again, I’d remind folks that UK is prohibited by federal law from issuing that type of press release unless UK first receives permission from the students involved.
If the details are being withheld, it’s because Rodriguez and whomever else is involved want to maintain their privacy in this matter and we should respect that.
This is a disciplinary matter between them and the University and it’s not really any of our business.
Student Conduct | Student Success
Then I can nearly guarantee that we'll all know exactly what happened. If this goes poorly for CRod and it is "ridiculous" as Matt has said, CRod and/or his father will lay it all out in the open. I have the same sick feeling I've had from the beginning. I think our administration is making a mountain out of a mole hill for some self-righteous reason. In the end, I think it will all end up being unnecessary with the program and CRod paying for it.
Yep it’s what they do. They know they have you over a barrel and they milk you dry. No good guys in our healthcare system
I’ve read this whole thread and I find this the most interesting part.
is this factual or just speculation! Volleyball and soccer have played already. Did anyone sit out for them if they participated?
Again, how do we know this is their choice for privacy and not UK's?
A big problem is that most people have insurance so they don't contest the bills, and the insurance company doesn't care, they just charge more for the insurance so they make money too. At least that is the way it worked several years ago. And the company that you work for doesn't care, the insurance they pay for is to keep you working for them. Always a selling point when a company is trying to hire you.
Not sure the need to throw UGA in there, we are not in these crazy bidding wars and it is showing with our recruiting results. Our AD and Kirby have stated our NIL deals are going to current players. UGA has had players suspended for multiple games, Todd Gurley missed 4. Just last season we kicked a kid off the team and out of school when he was arrested for sexual assault, he was probably a 1st round pick. UT recruits them.
I think we have players to cover for CRod so the only one that gets hurt (I hope) is CRod, he won't set the yardage record at UK AND I am sure he wants to play his senior year, he turned down a lot of money to come back.
. Florida is the only big worry even if it is for four games. Probably why Stoops hasn't resigned yet, LOL.
Damn, bad news, I would rather you have him than him end up at Thug U.
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I heard C Rod, Wright, and other that are missing one game for all the same thing was a streaking incident on campus. Hearsay, but since C Rod was already in trouble for DUI he got double punished. A Co workers kid who's a student told us that.
Should have had his uniform on. Equipment managers fault.
