Bruiser Flint hired by UK as assistant

[morgousky]

Like you know anything at all about Saban or the inner workings of him and his staff. You speak as if you are being factual when you do not know any more than anyone else.

Its rather common knowledge than Saban is universally not really liked by many of his coaches. Saban has a system that they feed from. That’s why he hires guys like kiffin. It’s designed to attract the best available coaches for assistant roles.

You’re trying too hard Cawood. It is what it is.

 

[ace on the river]

This is about a good hire. Someone that actually knows college basketball thinks he is a great hire.
He obviously has that gravitas attached to his name. He's got the best people skills of anybody, anywhere in college basketball," Rothstein said. "When you combine all those things with the power of Kentucky's brand, and that he's with a Hall of Famer in Calipari, he's going to make a big impact. Just with his personality and the way he is with people, that's going to happen," he said.

Oh geez, All we need now is a ringing endorsement from Dickie V and we’ll have the best staff ever

 

[Cawood86]

I don’t care if he’s the right hire or not. He was at IU, he’s tainted and will always be an enemy of the state

You are aware that Payne played at UofL right?

 

[The_Answer1313]

lol 6 pages.

People are making way too big a deal of this lol

 

[kl40504]

Failed head coach, mediocre (at best) recruiter, replacing the top assistant coach in college basketball. Doesn't take a genius to see this is a major downgrade.

Payne - #3
Flint - #56

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/CompositeCoachRankings/

Rothstein disagrees.
He obviously has that gravitas attached to his name. He's got the best people skills of anybody, anywhere in college basketball," Rothstein said. "When you combine all those things with the power of Kentucky's brand, and that he's with a Hall of Famer in Calipari, he's going to make a big impact. Just with his personality and the way he is with people, that's going to happen," he said.

 

[kl40504]

Oh geez, All we need now is a ringing endorsement from Dickie V and we’ll have the best staff ever

All we need is you to not endorse the hire and then we will know Cal got it right.

 

[ace on the river]

All we need is you to not endorse the hire and then we will know Cal got it right.

Doesn’t matter rather I endorse it or not. I just think he got the job because he’s Cal’s friend and not on merits. Just like that clown that was here for one year, pocketed 400 grand and left as soon as he could for New York. Barry Rohrssen. He was such a good choice he's been out of basketball for 4 years

 

[drew_ukfan]

Uh, Kenny Payne played basketball at UL.

You are aware that Payne played at UofL right?

I’m aware. I’ve already answered this

it took me a long time to get over that fact but Kenny proved his loyalty to the BBN.

 

[Cawood86]

Its rather common knowledge than Saban is universally not really liked by many of his coaches. Saban has a system that they feed from. That’s why he hires guys like kiffin. It’s designed to attract the best available coaches for assistant roles.

You’re trying too hard Cawood. It is what it is.[/QUOTE
I don't claim to know anything about how Saban operates. I know he gets the best recruits and wins a ton. Cal does the same. Folks were all upset about Justus and Barbee but they have both done well recruiting at UK. I'm ok with the hire because I know the deal sealer in recruiting is Cal. You and others are acting the program will go under because Flint is an assistant at UK. Just bizarre.

 

[kl40504]

Doesn’t matter rather I endorse it or not. I just think he got the job because he’s Cal’s friend and not on merits. Just like that clown that was here for one year, pocketed 400 grand and left as soon as he could for New York. Barry Rohrssen. He was such a good choice he's been out of basketball for 4 years

I think Rothstein knows more about coaching hires than you. Read and weep.
He obviously has that gravitas attached to his name. He's got the best people skills of anybody, anywhere in college basketball," Rothstein said. "When you combine all those things with the power of Kentucky's brand, and that he's with a Hall of Famer in Calipari, he's going to make a big impact. Just with his personality and the way he is with people, that's going to happen," he said.

 

[Cawood86]

Honestly, I don’t know what I was thinking. This is exactly a Cal hire. I was in denial, I really don’t care for Flint.

Cal just isn’t the type to hire egos that would ever question things. He’s a my way guy, always has been. He’s got a lifetime contract. Is what it is.

You were just praising Saban for being this way but now you're saying Cal is a my way or the highway kind of guy and that's not a good thing. Bi polar posting at it's best. Pick a side of the fence to be on.

 

[morgousky]

You were just praising Saban for being this way but now you're saying Cal is my or the higway kind of guy and that's not a good thing. Bi polar posting at it's best. Pick a side of the fence to be on.

You’re trying too hard to play gotcha and you’re not very good at it. That’s not at all no polar. Try context.

 

[morgousky]

@Cawood86 on your other post it was never said at all. You’re just trying to pick sides and then use low level tactics to appear correct. You’re all over the place. Give it a rest.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

Cal is loyal to guys and I respect that. He wants people around him he can completely trust and Flint fits that. No idea what his role will be or how he will do in recruiting but I do trust Cal. Want to see it play out before I pass a harsh judgement on the move.

You have every right to feel that way and are taking a respectable approach to things, which is more then understandable, it's smart.

The last couple of hires coupled with the selling point to players is what I find contradicting. The program sells "we want you to be uncomfortable" and put players in situations to develop them which is 100% correct and great. You take them and make them work on things they aren't comfortable on and force them to grow. So why wouldn't that apply to hiring process? New voices aren't necessary but they also aren't something you should exclude which is why you open it up/see if anyone better/could help the program grow comes along and not giving that any look, it's comfortable and disagree with that.

 

[Cawood86]

We’ve actually been through this on the board today already.

Sorry, I don't spend the whole day on the board. So you can either list them or you can't without looking it up. Which is it? Go ahead....I'll be waiting for the list

 

[morgousky]

Sorry, I don't spend the whole day on the board. So you can either list them or you can't without looking it up. Which is it? Go ahead....I'll be waiting for the list

Dude go find it out yourself. I don’t have to prove anything to you. Because you don’t know shit about coaches around the country doesn’t mean I and others don’t. If you are having this much trouble stick your face in google and figure it out.

This has already been discussed. I know many assistant coaches at the top programs. We recruit agaisnt them. I know who a lot of Cals former coaches and players are because I’ve been paying close attention for nearly 20 years. He coached in my backyard during friggin childhood.

I’d rather not continue debating you on this topic until you can come with some decent responses other than your failed attempt to play gotcha and twisting everything to fit.

 

[Cawood86]

@Cawood86 on your other post it was never said at all. You’re just trying to pick sides and then use low level tactics to appear correct. You’re all over the place. Give it a rest.

Nope, but I understand why you can't list the names of the assistants without looking it up. The problem is you can't admit it and want to deflect to my posts because you can't support your opinion by answering a simple question.
So, list them and prove me wrong. Since assistants are so important to you, you should be able to do this no problem.

 

[morgousky]

Nope, but I understand why you can't list the names of the assistants without looking it up. The problem is you can't admit it and want to deflect to my posts because you can't support your opinion by answering a simple question.
So, list them and prove me wrong. Since assistants are so important to you, you should be able to do this no problem.

This is amateur hour bullshit. Stop responding to me it’s not worth the time.

 

[Cawood86]

You have every right to feel that way and are taking a respectable approach to things, which is more then understandable, it's smart.

The last couple of hires coupled with the selling point to players is what I find contradicting. The program sells "we want you to be uncomfortable" and put players in situations to develop them which is 100% correct and great. You take them and make them work on things they aren't comfortable on and force them to grow. So why wouldn't that apply to hiring process? New voices aren't necessary but they also aren't something you should exclude which is why you open it up/see if anyone better/could help the program grow comes along and not giving that any look, it's comfortable and disagree with that.

I understand that. I suppose Cal could have done that, but that also takes time and I think Cal knows continuity is very important with this young team and he knows Flint will help provide that right away. He doesn't have to get to know Flint and see if he is capable, he already knows him. Just my view though.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

I understand that. I suppose Cal could have done that, but that also takes time and I think Cal knows continuity is very important with this young team and he knows Flint will help provide that right away. He doesn't have to get to know Flint and see if he is capable, he already knows him. Just my view though.

Understand. The continuity is there with the coaches they've already worked with. They can get that with whomever is brought in as if things were normal season doesn't start for another Month, with this crap going on, likely more time then usual. At end of day it's about what he wants to do, and hope it works out greater than I and those who wish the job was opened up feel. But your take is great on things.

 

[Cawood86]

Dude go find it out yourself. I don’t have to prove anything to you. Because you don’t know shit about coaches around the country doesn’t mean I and others don’t. If you are having this much trouble stick your face in google and figure it out.

This has already been discussed. I know many assistant coaches at the top programs. We recruit agaisnt them. I know who a lot of Cals former coaches and players are because I’ve been paying close attention for nearly 20 years. He coached in my backyard during friggin childhood.

I’d rather not continue debating you on this topic until you can come with some decent responses other than your failed attempt to play gotcha and twisting everything to fit.

Got it, so you can't but you resort to belittling me because you can't give any names or support your view. It's weak and typical. I'm not having any trouble seeing you just can't handle someone opposing your view and expecting you to back up your view with some info.
I know who some assistants are around the country at some of the bigger programs. I do not know all of them. You don't either and obviously can't even name a few without using Google.
You seem to think Flint will be the end of the prgram and act as if you know better who to hire because you like to speak in absolutes and as if you are an expert on all things. If you were, you wouldn't be on here, you would be making a living doing this instead of posting a UK site on a message board, so spare me your pseudo expert act.

 

[Cawood86]

This is amateur hour bullshit. Stop responding to me it’s not worth the time.

Ha ha....so still no answer. What a shock. Mr Expert indeed.

 

[Cawood86]

Understand. The continuity is there with the coaches they've already worked with. They can get that with whomever is brought in as if things were normal season doesn't start for another Month, with this crap going on, likely more time then usual. At end of day it's about what he wants to do, and hope it works out greater than I and those who wish the job was opened up feel. But your take is great on things.

Thanks, I actively look up your posts on topics such as this because I trust your view. You are more than likely right on this as you are on other topics. I don't know as much about Flint as you probably do. Sometimes guys need a fresh start, I'm hoping this move pans out great.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

Thanks, I actively look up your posts on topics such as this because I trust your view. You are more than likely right on this as you are on other topics. I don't know as much about Flint as you probably do. Sometimes guys need a fresh start, I'm hoping this move pans out great.

Thought Andrew Slater's take was spot on regarding loyalty and for helping him getting started. At end of day, it's about players/material. You can X and O, etc..but if you don't have players doesn't matter. Cal spoiled us with the staff of Payne/Antigua/Strickland as they had connections and are well respected. The results showed from until they started exiting and think the hires haven't been as aggressive which I prefer, but all that matters is results and hope Bruiser Flint addition ends up with UK cutting nets down and me starting a post where I admit I was wrong-which I'd gladly do.

 

[kl40504]

Thought Andrew Slater's take was spot on regarding loyalty and for helping him getting started. At end of day, it's about players/material. You can X and O, etc..but if you don't have players doesn't matter. Cal spoiled us with the staff of Payne/Antigua/Strickland as they had connections and are well respected. The results showed from until they started exiting and think the hires haven't been as aggressive which I prefer, but all that matters is results and hope Bruiser Flint addition ends up with UK cutting nets down and me starting a post where I admit I was wrong-which I'd gladly do.

Recruiting had more to do with Duke and others entering the one and done game and able to get top recruits instead of who Cal had as assistants.

 

[ralphdaltonfan]

Recruiting had more to do with Duke and others entering the one and done game and able to get top recruits instead of who Cal had as assistants.

Yes and No.

Regarding Kentucky, this isn't true, It helped the other programs certainly, but Kentucky recruiting was hurt by loss of having 3 guys who were connected at that level and all on same staff. Connections matter and knowing the right people and more importantly the right people who have influence is easier when you have 3 guys who are at a level than 1.

 

[CatGotMyTongue]

He’s gonna kick ass

 

[ace on the river]

I think Rothstein knows more about coaching hires than you. Read and weep.
He obviously has that gravitas attached to his name. He's got the best people skills of anybody, anywhere in college basketball," Rothstein said. "When you combine all those things with the power of Kentucky's brand, and that he's with a Hall of Famer in Calipari, he's going to make a big impact. Just with his personality and the way he is with people, that's going to happen," he said.

I'm sure he thought Rohrssen was a good hire too. When was the last time he come out and said so and so was a bad hire?

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I think Rothstein knows more about coaching hires than you. Read and weep.
He obviously has that gravitas attached to his name. He's got the best people skills of anybody, anywhere in college basketball," Rothstein said. "When you combine all those things with the power of Kentucky's brand, and that he's with a Hall of Famer in Calipari, he's going to make a big impact. Just with his personality and the way he is with people, that's going to happen," he said.

The Master is proud of your cult-like devotion. Keep dancin'.

 

[ace on the river]

The Master is proud of your cult-like devotion. Keep dancin'.

Isn’t it unbelievable?

 

[kl40504]

You’re trying too hard to play gotcha and you’re not very good at it. That’s not at all no polar. Try context.

It is evident you know nothing about college basketball.

 

[kl40504]

This is amateur hour bullshit. Stop responding to me it’s not worth the time.

I agree it is not worth the time responding to someone that knows nothing about college basketball as evidenced by your postings on this board.

 

[TankedCat]

I agree it is not worth the time responding to someone that knows nothing about college basketball as evidenced by your postings on this board.

but you will post 30 times with predictable snarky crap

smh

 

[CrazyCat74]

lol 6 pages.

People are making way too big a deal of this lol

Maybe,

But Kenny was the man.

 

[kl40504]

but you will post 30 times with predictable snarky crap

smh

Really. Snarky crap deserves snarky crap. I guess when I post facts that is snarky to you because it blows up your fake news agenda.

 

[kl40504]

Huge mistake by Cal. Just a totally boring, blah hire that will bring no benefit to the program.

Really, really disappointed in Cal on this one.

He just went from a Ferrari to a Taurus

We just went from a Ferrari to a Lamborghini.

 

[Cawood86]

This is amateur hour bullshit. Stop responding to me it’s not worth the time.

@morogusky....what is your opinion of Justus as an assistant at UK?

 

[JFCats22]

We just went from a Ferrari to a Lamborghini.

Nobody believes that, not even Bruiser Flint.

The good news is, I now have you on ignore after your run of nonsensical posts today. Congrats!

 

[Calsarmy]

Terrible hire!!!!
Heck at this point I would rather have “Dick The Bruiser”

Cals got a lousy staff for sure at this point.
My view is it’s all on him at this point.

 

[RunninRichie]

it’s all down from here