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Brian Bowen to...Louisville?

After the 2013 season, the pundits have been overrating UL and picking them to go farther, except for 2015. And they haven't do so once.
Yep in 2014 plenty of "experts" were picking them to repeat but we all know who stopped that lol. In 2015 they made the EE but that was helped by being in a region with upsets.
 
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I don't think the whores got them anything and that it was more about whoremongering for its own sake. There are plenty of better cookies on tap than whores even for far lesser programs.

This one isn't about crooked so much as squeezy. They just be nasty like that is more than 90% of it.
I disagree. It isn't a coincidence that outside of that period of time they cheated, Pimptino has been below average at UL. One final four. That's it. He has been Tubby Smith Jr. at UL except for those few years.
 
Adam Zagoria says Bowen will pick UL.

I think that makes UL (on paper) a better team than UK going into next season. Likely makes them preseason #4 or 5 behind Arizona, Mich St, and KU.
You can still only play 5 players at a time. It helps with depth, but only marginally.
 
If you add up titles from blue blood programs or second tier programs it comes to around half of championships won since the late 40's. If you add the amount of basketball oriented schools to it, it's almost all of them.

My point is that's not a coincidence. And Cal won his title at kentucky, the blue blood. He fell short at smaller programs. I think I'll consider that the program giving him the extra push.

Florida, butler, and Gonzaga are outliers relative to decades of the games being played and the typical outcomes.

It takes a great coach, but a great coach needs a great program. Otherwise guys like Cal wouldn't have chosen the path they are on. It would easier to just stay put, if it was.
The last "no-name" team to when the championship was either Marquette, Villanova or Florida, depending on you classify the power-house basketball schools. Other than that, you have to go back to 1966 and Western Texas.
 
Of course you have to work hard and improve. Unless you're a fantastic elite of the elite talent, still absolutely matters where you go...Crazy to say otherwise.

You can pick out exceptions to virtually every rule. Doesnt make it not the rule.

This is reminiscent of UK football fans who say "you don't need 4 and 5 stars to compete!!! Look at Randall Cobb!!!" Just misguided
While I believe it does matter, somewhat, where a player goes, has anyone looked at the particular rankings of the players coming from high school and the likelihood of them being drafted.
 
While I believe it does matter, somewhat, where a player goes, has anyone looked at the particular rankings of the players coming from high school and the likelihood of them being drafted.

No doubt there's a correlation between the rankings of players coming out of high school and what players end up getting drafted.
 
I'm with you on this, there isn't 19 teams better. They should be top 5 to start the season with what they return from a very good team. They lose one really good player and another ok player but they add a pure scorer and the natural developedmwnt of the retuning players and he Fr to Soph jump of King should be at the level that Mitchell's jump was

19 teams better than UL??? Come on, hating UL is one thing, being a moron is another.

Every media outlet has them somewhere between 5-10 and that's before adding a top 15 player.

They do have a 7'0 top 25 recruit coming in as well. I'm assuming he will help in the paint.
 
Jalen Brunson wasn't a miss. His NBA stock was never high and he wasn't projected to be a One or even two, three and done. He's lived up and even surpassed what has been expected of him. Zimmerman got drafted around what he was projected to go as well imo. Everyone else seems to fit though


Isiah Briscoe was a 5 star (10th ranked) guard
Donovan Mitchell was a 4 star (31st ranked) guard

The 2015 rankings had many misses. Out of the top 20, :
1 Skal Labissiere
5 Cheick Diallo
6 Diamond Stone
8 Malik Newman
10 Isaiah Briscoe
13 Antonio Blakeney
14 Derryck Thornton
15 Stephen Zimmerman
16 Chase Jeter
20 Jalen Brunson
 
I think many look at rankings and think "well you were ranked that high so you should be a OAD" but that's not the case. All rankings year to year isn't equal. You have to look at pro projections over rankings. A guy can be a top 10 player but scouts know that the player isn't ranked that high when it comes to their draft potential. Tyus Jones fits in that catatgory but he ended up playing so well that he raised his draft potential. He fits in the catatgory of "leave while you're stock is high due to you're physical limitations/original draft stock"

You'll see some guys ranked low 20 who has a higher draft stock due to how tall, athletic they are, Nick Richards fits in that catatgory


No doubt there's a correlation between the rankings of players coming out of high school and what players end up getting drafted.
 
VJ, you better play your brains out every second or you will have another wasted year. Pitino especially could care less about your 5 star status now that he has 4 of you at your position. Maybe you are the reason he got Bowen??? Questioning his coaching not good.
 
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I'm with you on this, there isn't 19 teams better. They should be top 5 to start the season with what they return from a very good team. They lose one really good player and another ok player but they add a pure scorer and the natural developedmwnt of the retuning players and he Fr to Soph jump of King should be at the level that Mitchell's jump was
I'm sorry but a team with Mahmoud and Spaulding starting on the front court and nothing proven backing them up is a pretender not a contender. I'm sure UofL will be ranked top 10 preseason but that's the case almost every year with them. They're highly overrated to start every season and since their non conference schedule includes about 15 games at the Yum so they rack up a bunch of meaningless wins to stay ranked. Last year was a perfect example and they even fooled the selection committee into giving them a 2 seed that proved to be undeserved.
 
I'm sorry but a team with Mahmoud and Spaulding starting on the front court and nothing proven backing them up is a pretender not a contender. I'm sure UofL will be ranked top 10 preseason but that's the case almost every year with them. They're highly overrated to start every season and since their non conference schedule includes about 15 games at the Yum so they rack up a bunch of meaningless wins to stay ranked. Last year was a perfect example and they even fooled the selection committee into giving them a 2 seed that proved to be undeserved.

Agreed. They lost their best player and they weren't really that good last year. They had some good wins, but lost 9 games, including 4 of their last 7.
 
Hes won a national championship (same amount as Cal) and been to a few final fours without a roster full of 5 star one and dones too, you do realize that?

Well He isn't paid to hire hookers or give his mistress an abortion...Sorry, I mean health insurance...but he did that too, you do realize that?
 
Couldn't this be another Brian Bowen ? There is some kid named Brian Bowen on Twitter that is a UofL student. Is this all they are basing their info on ?

As far as Bowen going to Louisville, I don't understand why he would go to Louisville when they are stocked at the wing with VJ King, Deng Adel and some other transfer, can't remember his name, but he sat out this last year.

They need help at the 4 and 5, not the 2 and 3. They have no depth with the bigs now. It makes no sense for them or Bowen.
The transfer is Sutton 6-5, and Pitino loves him. Says he is their most aggressive player. He also likes 6-7 Nwora. So basically 4 guys that the 3 is their natural position. Cannot see Spalding, Williams and Thomas not sharing the 4. IF Bowen is eligible, at least one will be left behind.
 
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If you're good, work hard, get better, it's doesn't matter where you go. The all NBA team is full of guys who went to schools who didn't produce a bunch of NBA players. Curry went to Davidson, Deandre Jordan went to Texas A&M. Durant Texas, Thomas-Washington, CP3-Wake Forrest, Draymond-MSU etc. A player sets himself up for a great pro career not the coach, a school/college coach can do nothing for you if you don't put in the work on you're own and work hard, any former player will tell you that
Which is exactly what Pitino, and all of the anti-UK recruiters are telling kids. Fact is, Cal's undeniable success at getting players to the league, regardless of his methods, is too hard to argue against, which is why he keeps landing the top players. Man, it must burn up the competition...
 
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I find humor in the definition of success. Or maybe it is simply relative to your personal situation.
 
This is a very strange case. I was in the car listening to the sports shows on Friday when this was really a hot issue and nobody was talking about it. I was at a family gathering on Saturday, where a lot of UL fans were in attendance, and none of them were talking about it, and didn't even seem interested in it. This is a huge get for them, and it's not getting much of a reaction.
 
Bowen will not be elgible for one thing and Rick will be suspended early on and that team will be in total disarrray
 
Heard Paul Biancardi on the radio say Louisville is more likely to go deeper in March than Kentucky. Part of his reasoning is Louisville has "a top 10 class coming in." I'll say the same thing to you about this kid that I muttered to Biancardi: Pitino isn't K or Cal. The next time he has a freshman, let alone multiple freshmen, producing at a high level it will be the first time. They may be great - if they are, it will be because of what they have in the sophomore-junior-senior classes.


Lol @ Biancardi
 
Yeah stupid decision because Rick Pitino is only the best college bball coach of all time. One of 2 coaches to lead 3 different teams to a final 4 and the only coach to win a National Title at 2 different schools. Had he stayed here Coach K wouldnt be shit.
Not best coach but up there........and if he would have stayed at uk maybe at least one more national championship. But I like Cal better, better to the players and places them high in NBA draft . Kids really want to be at UK that come.
 
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