Breaking down the Cats and Gators

[MJWilliamson]

Worse based on what? They've played 2 P5 teams,

Oh rly?

La La has played UK and Northwest State? They got 360 yards rushing against that "power five team"

Florida couldn't get 250 yards on a horrid NMSU team.

Well, you are technically correct. It was 222 yards. We needed to work on our passing game.

Not sure who you think you're fooling, but Florida's run offense is an absolute mess, seen it for myself, offensive line shows a ton of youth and poor technique, and your RB looks like he's trying to play Dance Dance Revolution in the backfield on half of your run plays because a mean ol' ECU linebacker is back there from the get-go trying to paste him into the turf.

Cool. Looks like we will see this weekend, won't we?

 

[TBCat]

Show me anything that suggests that Florida can put up 250 yards rushing on Kentucky, especially behind that offensive line. Hell, they couldn't do it against New Mexico State, who has an absolutely miserable excuse of a defense.
I'd also have to see Florida put those numbers up in the passing game to believe it. Right now, as I just showed you, Kentucky has the better numbers in the pass defense, and if we're talking strictly touchdown-to-interception ratio, it's not even close.

And of course you agree with everything except the last part. Everything except the last part was pro-Florida.

I have no doubt that UF has the ability to put up those kinds of yards on us. Saying that UF can't because they didn't against New Mex State is kind of like saying there's no way UK can run the ball on USC because we couldn't run the ball against ULL. However we did run the ball quite effectively on ULL. A lot of those stats are based on how each team played the game. We struggled running against ULL because they put 9 in the box. Talent can't over come that since 'air' will never block a line backer. If they have you out number in the box then you need to throw. Which UK did.

Point being we won't have the same game plan as New Mex so Florida may very well run on us. 250 yards isn't out of the realm of possibility and our defense has been exploited for that in the past.

I do believe we keep their offense down but mainly because we will have the ball most of the time. We have shown that we can run the ball effectively unless we're out numbered. And if UF tries to do what ULL did then we will have 40 points at half time with or without Hargraves playing. Also since UF likes to use nickel that will make our running game more effective. We mostly run out of a power set.

 

[Rhavicc]

Oh rly?

La La has played UK and Northwest State? They got 360 yards rushing against that "power five team"

South Carolina is the power 5 team, you dunce.
Even then, La-La has a significantly more experienced offensive line that Florida, and Florida doesn't have a RB that's even in the same stratosphere as Elijah McGuire at this point. You're running with a bunch of players that have barely seen game reps, let alone SEC road reps. Most of your fan base is banking your o-line play on a guy that just came off a surgically repaired knee injury, and hasn't played a single snap of college football.

Well, you are technically correct. It was 222 yards. We needed to work on our passing game.

"We stopped doing something that was clearly working because we needed to practice passing the football"
May be the worst excuse I've heard. You had 41 rushing attempts in that game. Hardly looks like you all stopped running to work on your passing game, especially against a defense that would provide very little for practice.

Cool. Looks like we will see this weekend, won't we?

I imagine we will. Your RB should get some solid DDR practice in.

 

[EKCAT4YRS]

A mistake free game of fb hasn't been played yet- kind of like a round of golf. I know what you mean but still, believe this,, this UF team or the last three or four at least,, are not the Gators of Urban or TOBC. FL has been kind of my second (distant to UK)team for years probably b/c I have spent lots of time in the state over the years, I am no expert on fb but I do watch this team almost as close as I do the Cats.The Gators can certainly win but this game looks to be a very close matchup and FL cannot afford mistakes either. If the turnovers/mistakes are just even, I believe Cats win. We will see!

 

[ArmyWildcat81]

La Lafaytte was able to put up almost 200 yards rushing and 250 yards passing on the UK defense. I do not know why Florida cannot do the same?

The Gators have allowed 482 passing yards in two games, which ranks 89th in the country. Add in the fact that they’ve only played New Mexico State (FPI ranking #121) and East Carolina (FPI ranking #82) and Patrick Towles should be licking his chops.

 

[GridCats]

Hope the Gators are as cocky as their fan's, will make good Cat Bait!

 

[TAYLOR1027]

The Gators have allowed 482 passing yards in two games, which ranks 89th in the country. Add in the fact that they’ve only played New Mexico State (FPI ranking #121) and East Carolina (FPI ranking #82) and Patrick Towles should be licking his chops.

Those stats mean nothing when you have only played half your secondary...Just like how UK gave up 478 yards on the ground in 2 games without the starting LB's.. means nothing, your run D should be better with them back just like our pass D will be better with all our secondary back

 

[Rhavicc]

Those stats mean nothing when you have only played half your secondary...Just like how UK gave up 478 yards on the ground in 2 games without the starting LB's.. means nothing, your run D should be better with them back just like our pass D will be better with all our secondary back

I recall you having your full secondary against NMSU.
At no point has UK had its linebackers. Mild difference.

 

[TAYLOR1027]

I recall you having your full secondary against NMSU.
At no point has UK had its linebackers. Mild difference.

we had out two starting safeties out, then against ECU we had 1 safety and 1 corner out

 

[Rhavicc]

we had out two starting safeties out, then against ECU we had 1 safety and 1 corner out

Have to wonder how much rust we'll see, even on our end.

 

[instaGATOR]

I recall you having your full secondary against NMSU.
At no point has UK had its linebackers. Mild difference.

1st Game Out:
LT M.Ivey ***** - injury
WR Latroy Pittman **** - suspension

FS K.Neal **** - injury
SS M.Maye **** - suspension
DE A.McAlister **** - suspension

2nd Game Out:
LT M.Ivey ***** - injury
FS K.Neal **** - injury
CB VH-3 ***** - injury

3rd Game Out:
MLB A.Anzalone *****
Maybe others, won't know for sure until pre-game warm-ups.

 

[Rhavicc]

1st Game Out:
LT M.Ivey ***** - injury
WR Latroy Pittman **** - suspension

FS K.Neal **** - injury
SS M.Maye **** - suspension
DE A.McAlister **** - suspension

2nd Game Out:
LT M.Ivey ***** - injury
FS K.Neal **** - injury
CB VH-3 ***** - injury

3rd Game Out:
MLB A.Anzalone *****
Maybe others, won't know for sure until pre-game warm-ups.

Should be interesting to see Ivey in, with him coming off of a surgically repaired knee injury and all, and his first college reps are in an SEC road game at night.

 

[TAYLOR1027]

Should be interesting to see Ivey in, with him coming off of a surgically repaired knee injury and all, and his first college reps are in an SEC road game at night.

Not really worried about his knee..it was just "cleaned up" my guess is that it was just a meniscus, like cleaning up loose ends. Nothing major like a ligament. His return time was short all along. I highly doubt he starts and I dont expect him to play too much unless there is a injury or blowout either way. I am thinking maybe a quarter all together. As far as rust goes i doubt there will be too much unless they didnt practice. Im sure Neal for us will have some rust and have some trouble with being in game shape, which will be the same for your LB's. I am optimistic though to have a full secondary back, as i assume you are as well with the LB's

 

[TNTUK]

Those stats mean nothing when you have only played half your secondary...Just like how UK gave up 478 yards on the ground in 2 games without the starting LB's.. means nothing, your run D should be better with them back just like our pass D will be better with all our secondary back

Hargreaves played in that 1st game. Got hurt last week in practice.

 

[JackYoungblood]

Do you all really think that the UF coach is "hurrying" 5 star players back to play Kentucky??? Really??

that is a stretch at best

 

[Rhavicc]

Do you all really think that the UF coach is "hurrying" 5 star players back to play Kentucky??? Really??

that is a stretch at best

Did I say that? No, you clown. I'm saying that he may be below expectations, being a freshman, never playing a college snap, coming off a big injury that had to be surgically repaired, playing his first snaps on the road in the SEC.
Poor reading comprehension. If I think your coach is "hurrying" anybody back, I would say so.

 

[TAYLOR1027]

Hargreaves played in that 1st game. Got hurt last week in practice.

yep he did..our first game we had our two safeties out...in the second game we had a safety and a corner out..this game we are supposed to have both our starting corners and both our starting safeties

 

[JackYoungblood]

I dont see UK scoring over 20 points at best on UF's D.....UNLESS they can get the run game going or somehow the UF bus crashes on the way to the game.

As far as the clown comment -- thanks!.

Quick grammar lesson...

You all does not equal Rhavicc....

 

[TAYLOR1027]

I think UK can exploit our LB's throwing short passes across the middle/ screens.. i dont see UK converting on many legit 20+ yards passes, but our LB's have been suspect at best. Morrison isnt the same since his knee injury and Anzalone being out. Our other LB's need to step up

 

[ukalum1988]

I dont see UK scoring over 20 points at best on UF's D.....UNLESS they can get the run game going or somehow the UF bus crashes on the way to the game.

As far as the clown comment -- thanks!.

Quick grammar lesson...

You all does not equal Rhavicc....

Off topic just a bit, but you're obviously a Gator fan and yet your screen name is a guy who played at Florida State. What's up with that?

 

[JackYoungblood]

Off topic just a bit, but you're obviously a Gator fan and yet your screen name is a guy who played at Florida State. What's up with that?

HUH????

Did Emmitt Smith play for Miami as well? Dang I have grown up cheering for the wrong teams LOL

 

[Gator Fever]

Off topic just a bit, but you're obviously a Gator fan and yet your screen name is a guy who played at Florida State. What's up with that?

Say what?

 

[JackYoungblood]

Say what?

The Matrix hath lied to us once again Gator Fever......dang

I just hope that it was a Florida player that mooned the entire Neyland Stadium and not a FSU player since it must not have been JY....

"Trailing 38-7 at Neyland Stadium with the clock winding down, frustrated Florida defensive end Jack Youngblood couldn't help himself. The 1970 Florida-Tennessee game ended with Youngblood dropping his pants and mooning Volunteers fans."

 

[crazyqx83]

Becasue it happened with at least one other team? A team worse than Florida?

I'm not convinced that ULL isn't better than Florida. Have a much better record the past few years and beat a much better ecu team a few years back than Florida just squeaked by. They are obviously better coached.

I think if UK comes out in the first half like we have in the past 2 weeks that we will absolutely boat race Florida. I know that is an odd prediction based on the series hisyory, but Florida is an incredibly mediocre football program right now and the crowd is going to be way beyond hyped.

I don't know what usc is as a team right now, but their defense has looked tons better than Florida's against 2 farrrrrrr superior opponents in North Carolina and Kentucky and we literally walked the ball up and down the field in the first half.

 

[ukalum1988]

HUH????

Did Emmitt Smith play for Miami as well? Dang I have grown up cheering for the wrong teams LOL

Shoulda googled Jack Youngblood before I made my previous post - Sure enough, I really stepped in it.

 

[TBCat]

I dont see UK scoring over 20 points at best on UF's D.....UNLESS they can get the run game going or somehow the UF bus crashes on the way to the game.

As far as the clown comment -- thanks!.

Quick grammar lesson...

You all does not equal Rhavicc....

I think UK will get the running game going but even without it 20 points is not a tall order. We scored 20 last year. Almost had 20 in the 3rd quarter alone. UK's offense is vastly improved over last year. I know UF has a great secondary but UK has the size and speed to beat them. And UK isn't dependent on one guy. There are 5 or 6 receivers that you have to worry about so you can't just lock down our best receiver with Hargreaves. I'll be surprised if UK scores less than 30. I would actually be surprised of both teams aren't over 30.

 

[JackYoungblood]

Shoulda googled Jack Youngblood before I made my previous post - Sure enough, I really stepped in it.

LOL no worries

 

[JackYoungblood]

I think UK will get the running game going but even without it 20 points is not a tall order. We scored 20 last year. Almost had 20 in the 3rd quarter alone. UK's offense is vastly improved over last year. I know UF has a great secondary but UK has the size and speed to beat them. And UK isn't dependent on one guy. There are 5 or 6 receivers that you have to worry about so you can't just lock down our best receiver with Hargreaves. I'll be surprised if UK scores less than 30. I would actually be surprised of both teams aren't over 30.

Possible but the run game needs to be established to free up UK's WR's -- with the whole secondary back for UF It will be hard to get long yards.

 

[Gator Fever]

I think UK will get the running game going but even without it 20 points is not a tall order. We scored 20 last year. Almost had 20 in the 3rd quarter alone. UK's offense is vastly improved over last year. I know UF has a great secondary but UK has the size and speed to beat them. And UK isn't dependent on one guy. There are 5 or 6 receivers that you have to worry about so you can't just lock down our best receiver with Hargreaves. I'll be surprised if UK scores less than 30. I would actually be surprised of both teams aren't over 30.

I think our defense holds you under 30 short of pick sixes or something like that but I am a little nervous that we may not score 30+.

 

[Rhavicc]

Possible but the run game needs to be established to free up UK's WR's -- with the whole secondary back for UF It will be hard to get long yards.

Kentucky did it last year. Just to play devil's advocate (well, maybe from your perspective), what makes you think that Florida's DB's outside of Hargreaves can cover our receivers. It's a two-way street.

 

[JackYoungblood]

Kentucky did it last year. Just to play devil's advocate (well, maybe from your perspective), what makes you think that Florida's DB's outside of Hargreaves can cover our receivers. It's a two-way street.

I didnt say they could shut them down -- just stating that big plays will be hard to come by if there is no run game....

 

[Rhavicc]

I didnt say they could shut them down -- just stating that big plays will be hard to come by if there is no run game....

No, I agree. I meant in general. Its obvious that its more difficult to pass if you can't run, but you all may have that concern more than we do. Our RB's are averaging 8.35 yards per carry collectively right now. You all have struggled to this point to really get things going on the ground (and understandably so, incredibly young and inexperienced offensive line).

 

[JackYoungblood]

No, I agree. I meant in general. Its obvious that its more difficult to pass if you can't run, but you all may have that concern more than we do. Our RB's are averaging 8.35 yards per carry collectively right now. You all have struggled to this point to really get things going on the ground (and understandably so, incredibly young and inexperienced offensive line).

I dont know what is going to happen... All i know is that UF will bring pressure and a lot of it, that seems to be Geoff Collins MO. Florida has a ton of talent in the secondary and on paper maybe the best secondary in the SEC... but we all know what can happen to paper teams,

 

[Rhavicc]

I dont know what is going to happen... All i know is that UF will bring pressure and a lot of it, that seems to be Geoff Collins MO. Florida has a ton of talent in the secondary and on paper maybe the best secondary in the SEC... but we all know what can happen to paper teams,

See it every year. Much more to football than rankings and newspaper articles. Florida's secondary is certainly up there though, excited to see our receivers against your DB's. I believe our receivers can line up and trade blows with any secondary in the SEC, but Saturday will give us a gauge of where they stand. They're significantly improved from where they were when UK and UF played last season, when many of our main receivers were underclassmen. (Johnson, Baker, Badet, and Bone are all sophomores, Timmons is a junior).

 

[JackYoungblood]

See it every year. Much more to football than rankings and newspaper articles. Florida's secondary is certainly up there though, excited to see our receivers against your DB's. I believe our receivers can line up and trade blows with any secondary in the SEC, but Saturday will give us a gauge of where they stand. They're significantly improved from where they were when UK and UF played last season, when many of our main receivers were underclassmen. (Johnson, Baker, Badet, and Bone are all sophomores, Timmons is a junior).

so true...

 

[TNTUK]

I dont see UK scoring over 20 points at best on UF's D.....UNLESS they can get the run game going or somehow the UF bus crashes on the way to the game.

As far as the clown comment -- thanks!.

Quick grammar lesson...

You all does not equal Rhavicc....

Im going to go out on a limb - UKs run game and very talented RBs, OLine, WRs, and QB are x10 better than what you all have played so far.

ECU scored 24 on UF in the swamp....UK scores more than that this Saturday. But even if not, whatever UK puts up on the scoreboard it's going to be more than UF.

 

[JackYoungblood]

Im going to go out on a limb - UKs run game and very talented RBs, OLine, WRs, and QB are x10 better than what you all have played so far.

ECU scored 24 on UF in the swamp....UK scores more than that this Saturday. But even if not, whatever UK puts up on the scoreboard it's going to be more than UF.

Confidence -- I like it

 

[dingyibvs]

See it every year. Much more to football than rankings and newspaper articles. Florida's secondary is certainly up there though, excited to see our receivers against your DB's. I believe our receivers can line up and trade blows with any secondary in the SEC, but Saturday will give us a gauge of where they stand. They're significantly improved from where they were when UK and UF played last season, when many of our main receivers were underclassmen. (Johnson, Baker, Badet, and Bone are all sophomores, Timmons is a junior).

Same with UF though, Tabor, Wilson, and Dawson are all true sophomores, and Neal, Maye, and Hargreaves are juniors. The starting Nickel, Brian Poole, is the only senior in the Florida backfield.

 

[hmt5000]

one thing about uf having more talent... they have faster guys overall but im not so sure that they are bigger or better football players and we have enough speed to keep it interesting. if ratings were 100% then musch would still be there and this would be his last shot at saving his job but even with top 10 classes every year you still were barely better than us. i think we have more talent than uf fans are thinking. we have more than our typical 1 or 2 nfl'ers/class on this roster. your gonna see several of these guys on sundays over the next 4 years.

 

[screwduke]

I dont see UK scoring over 20 points at best on UF's D.....UNLESS they can get the run game going or somehow the UF bus crashes on the way to the game.

As far as the clown comment -- thanks!.

Quick grammar lesson...

You all does not equal Rhavicc....

Bad post. We scored more than 20 on them last year and our offense is better and UFs defense looks suspect still.