So before the streak started we were about even in the overall series. That is just frustrating.
Breaking down the Cats and Gators
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^Saw that too Brady, very frustrating.
This is the first time in my life that I feel like we have a team that is on equal footing with the Gators. I don't just feel like we're equal this year though...I feel like we're better and actually expect to win.
This is the first time in my life that I feel like we have a team that is on equal footing with the Gators. I don't just feel like we're equal this year though...I feel like we're better and actually expect to win.
We'll find out tomorrow, but this is still a kid that is coming off a knee injury, which is tricky business. Also, let's not forget that they couldn't stop our passing game when we were running with a first year starting QB, a bunch of young WR's (that are back), and a young, less talented o-line, and that's while they had their All-American CB, and a bunch of NFL players, including Fowler Jr.
Dallas, I don't think Boom goes for 100 unless he busts one or two off for 40+. Maybe if UK's passing game softens up the box, but otherwise, I think it's going to be tough to run the football.
GBB!!!
UF has been without starting strong safety and probable first round pick next year: Keanu Neal (he's back)
Hargreaves didn't play last game (he's back) to shut down one side of the field and return punts..
They easily have the best secondary in the sec and probbwly the nation... May and Neal will be back for the UK game.
VH and tabor at corner..
UK needs to rush/rush/rush the QB... No real experience for either.
Just don't think UK is there yet and UF has loads of talent (still) and finally has the offensive coach to use it.
UF: 35
UK: 24
Hargreaves didn't play last game (he's back) to shut down one side of the field and return punts..
They easily have the best secondary in the sec and probbwly the nation... May and Neal will be back for the UK game.
VH and tabor at corner..
UK needs to rush/rush/rush the QB... No real experience for either.
Just don't think UK is there yet and UF has loads of talent (still) and finally has the offensive coach to use it.
UF: 35
UK: 24
I'm afraid that McElwain will have some of the sloppiness in Florida's offense cleaned up by Saturday. Yes, their QB's are inexperienced but containing Harris might be a chore. I look for the Gators to spread the D out and run some QB draws with Harris. I think Floida, like most teams, will try to force Towles to beat them with his arm and the UK staff has to hope PT is on target in those particular games. The gameplan will be to bring pressure and force PT into quick decisions. Turnovers will likely decide the outcome.
Beating Florida with superior talent is reserved for very few teams around the land. UK must do it with execution and "want to". This is game 3 on the schedule, these teams are tuning up and I think this game is an over with 75-80 points combined on the scoreboard. I still like Kentucky at home but I see 42-38 with the team making the fewest mistakes as the winner.
Beating Florida with superior talent is reserved for very few teams around the land. UK must do it with execution and "want to". This is game 3 on the schedule, these teams are tuning up and I think this game is an over with 75-80 points combined on the scoreboard. I still like Kentucky at home but I see 42-38 with the team making the fewest mistakes as the winner.
I totally agree that Florida will try to make Towles win the game by making him pass the ball. They will make Towles be an accurate passer or UK will lose the game.
They have only given up 51 yards on the ground in 2 games. They are very good against the run and return 2 stud db's this week, one touted as the top cb in the country.
Defense must show up big time and our lines must be impressive. PT will be pressured, he needs to be poised and not make bad decisions.
Very tough game. Defense always travels.
Were going to run away with this one. Uf offense won't be able to sustain drives becuase they are going to give up a lot of sacks. I predict 4 sacks at least. Dj elliot and his blitz package is going to wreak havoc on the weak UF oline.
Cats 27-13
Cats 27-13
It's important to point out that while they are impressive against the run, they've failed to stop the pass, even when teams are one dimensional (when it should be much easier).
Kentucky's running backs are averaging over 8.35 yards per carry collectively, and we're loaded with talent on the perimeter on offense. We still have all of the players that scorched them last season.
Defensively, we should be able to capitalize. Important to point out that this will be the first SEC game, and a road game at that, for many of their players. Most notably, their QB, and most of their offensive line.
They have the best cb in the country returning this week and a starting safety I believe? That is 50% of the db backfield, so before you go all statistician on me, being at full strength can be difference maker.
At least, that is all we have heard about our linebacking group this year, goes both ways.
You say that like you are talking about Jackie Sherrill and Joe Lee Dunn...
Would be nice for UK to get to that point defensively where we have teams worried about our attacking schemes and receive some national news for it.
It does, but they were there last year as well. They weren't able to play the UK passing attack very effectively last season, so what changed?
I do like that our receivers aren't the ones coming off of injuries though, and I think we have more offensive perimeter threats than defensive perimeter threats.
I see VH3 covering Juice if he does in fact play, but there's still Baker, and Badet, both of which are every bit of a threat.
Plus, if Garrett Johnson is what Shannon Dawson says he is, which is "as good of a wide receiver" that he's ever had (he had Kevin White last season), then we're still going to get production from Johnson. He's shown the ability to make incredibly tough catches multiple times already, I think we'll see more of that.
Also, great offense always beats great defense. If a play is executed to the degree that we've been executing in the first half, then the offense is close to impossible to stop, and that applies to all teams. Not just UK. Great blocking, great route running, perfectly delivered passes, and catching and securing the football beats every kind of coverage that a defense can field.
Kentucky just needs to go out, and execute like it has been in the first half.
Ultimately though, we have to move the football on the ground (and we can, our RB's have proven to be studs by all standards), and SDcatfan is right. DJ Elliot just needs to do what he does. Florida has, if I'm not mistaken, the most inexperienced offensive line in the conference, and blitzes and disguised defenses put a lot of pressure on linemen, especially those with as few reps as the Florida offensive line. I felt that some of the new disguised defenses that UK ran against South Carolina were a thing of beauty (specifically in the play that Westry got the sack).
That worked because South Carolina also has a relatively young offensive line, but this one is even younger. UK needs to capitalize. That's why getting Hatcher and Flannigan back this week is huge.
I understand we have more weapons, not sure we will have the time to go through the reads. They will be coming. Definitely need some wr screens, short hooks, etc to slow down the rush and keep lbers from pinning their ears back.
Great job, as usual UKErik. I predict, like everybody else on here, a close game. I think we score late and have to hold the Gators out of the end zone in the last minute.
Kentucky 31
Florida 28
Time to storm the field.
Kentucky 31
Florida 28
Time to storm the field.
With all due respect to you and to your pic I gotta go with Red Skelton. "May God bless!"
I'm not sure why people are saying UK isn't ready to beat Florida. I guess if they had a different name on their uniforms people wouldn't say that. I'm sure UK is ready to beat an unranked team at home.
Also florida get a couple starters back in their secondary. That's great because this is their first game of the season then and they will likely play like it.
UK 27 Florida 24
Also florida get a couple starters back in their secondary. That's great because this is their first game of the season then and they will likely play like it.
UK 27 Florida 24
This may not be the Ol ball coach's Florida team, but still loaded with Florida talent and speed. But I feel our team is dialed in and is looking at this game with all seriousness. I do feel that Towles and his receivers can have a good day against these guys. If they are successful and we can get at leat 100 yards rushing we win. If Florida goes for 250 on the ground we will be in trouble. Cats win 28-17!!
Another great advantage is having some coaches who coached at their rival FSU. You know these guys absolutely want to destroy Florida. I'm sure they got a taste of the rivalry hatred from their time down there.
I really, really hope we can get Flannigan back 100% this game. Even if he gave us 20 snaps, that would be awesome.
I really, really hope we can get Flannigan back 100% this game. Even if he gave us 20 snaps, that would be awesome.
I may be way out of line here, but I don't care. I think UK is going to absolutely put on a show this weekend. We've seen in the first two weeks, UK start strong, and then allow teams to close the gap in the second half. The reason those teams are storming back isn't because of talent issues. For the 1st time in my life as a UK football fan, UK has the overall team talent to take care of business on the field with the depth to back it up. Against ULL, the lead evaporated because some young guys came in on defense and allowed huge holes and the offense missed the deep ball. Against USC, penalties and execution lead to the Gamecocks comeback.
This week, I think UK is going to be totally dialed in. The home crowd is going to nothing short of spectacular. I think Shannon Dawson is really starting to find his niche with this team. Dawson is a gunslinger, but Stoops has influenced him to control the clock as well. The UK defense is really going to cause the Gators fits this weekend. I look for DJ Elliot to exploit the young offensive line of Florida, and get in the head of the already shaky Florida QB's. If Florida can't find success running the ball, it think UK may win going away.
They say the truth lies somewhere in the middle. My mind tells me that UK can win this game by 2 or 3 touchdowns, but my old "UK football" mindset is telling me that this could go either way. So........
Kentucky 35
Florida 21
This week, I think UK is going to be totally dialed in. The home crowd is going to nothing short of spectacular. I think Shannon Dawson is really starting to find his niche with this team. Dawson is a gunslinger, but Stoops has influenced him to control the clock as well. The UK defense is really going to cause the Gators fits this weekend. I look for DJ Elliot to exploit the young offensive line of Florida, and get in the head of the already shaky Florida QB's. If Florida can't find success running the ball, it think UK may win going away.
They say the truth lies somewhere in the middle. My mind tells me that UK can win this game by 2 or 3 touchdowns, but my old "UK football" mindset is telling me that this could go either way. So........
Kentucky 35
Florida 21
I don't see this as a high scoring affair the way most are including Vegas. I think the defenses hold a slight advantage on both sides. I give the CATS the edge in a close game on not just home field, but night game at CWS with crazy, drunk crowd.
Gators: 17
CATS: 20
Gators: 17
CATS: 20
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La Lafaytte was able to put up almost 200 yards rushing and 250 yards passing on the UK defense. I do not know why Florida cannot do the same?
we had 2 starting lb'ers out and 1 starting dt. we tried to get some of our younger guys snaps in this game. we had several true freshmen and rs freshmen play a whole lot in that comeback. when it got tied back up we put the starters back in and shut them out and forced a punt. not claiming that we are world beaters on D but our D is better than that ull game suggest... as im sure your pass D is probably better than that ecu game would suggest.
the point is that we have enough talent to win this game with no gimmicks and no hoping your team stinks it up. we just need to play well and not be more than -1 in TO's and we can win. we get jason hatcher back this week and he should help some on run plays but will really help on pass plays. a couple of those freshmen that took lumps week 1 looked pretty good at scar and if they improve just a bit more than i expect us to be able to slow you down enough to outscore you.
32-24 cats win.
Because Lafayette is a better rushing team, with a veteran offensive line and a highly regarded RB? Florida's offensive line is woeful at run blocking, their offensive line is the youngest in the SEC, and they don't have a single RB averaging over 5.07 yards per carry, despite playing ridiculously weak competition against the run. (for reference, UK doesn't have a RB in the 3 deep rotation averaging lower than 6 YPC against tougher competition)
Also, I'm just saying..
Pass defense:
Kentucky:
454 yards
1 touchdown allowed
3 interceptions
115.35 QBR allowed
19 first downs allowed
3 passes for 25+ yards allowed
Florida:
482 yards
4 touchdowns allowed
2 interceptions
116.88 QBR allowed
20 first downs allowed
5 passes for 25+ yards allowed
As much as I would like to predict a win by the cats, recent history is on Florida's side. It will be a huge obstacle to overcome the streak. We found yet another way last season to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
For those who are thinking that this will not be a brawl, think again. Florida is trying to make a statement for their new coach as well. This will be a very physical football game.
We'll have to play mistake free football for four quarters. Towles will also need the game of his career to get the W. I haven't seen that sort of consistency from Towles, even though he showed improvement against USC.
For those who are thinking that this will not be a brawl, think again. Florida is trying to make a statement for their new coach as well. This will be a very physical football game.
We'll have to play mistake free football for four quarters. Towles will also need the game of his career to get the W. I haven't seen that sort of consistency from Towles, even though he showed improvement against USC.
Yet most of their rushing prowess this year came against a 1-AA school. 360 yards to be exact.
I think the Florida offense will move the ball against UK. I think the UK offense can give Florida some trouble. I see a tough game. Might be high scoring.
This year is probably UK's best opportunity to end the streak since, well since last year. And the year before. But Muschamp is now gone.
I agree with that. UK is talented enough, in comparison to Florida, to win this game. We shall see.
Florida 31-UK 24.
so is Joker, stop pretending UF has the monopoly on bad coaches hurting & holding back your program. Your time has come & gone, it is our turn now. And we take it Saturday night.
and what has this new buck toothed guy done to show he isnt Wil Muschamp, anyway? Certainly demonstrated the same unprofessional reckless out-of-control action on the sidelines last game.
We do have inexperience at QB but Grier does seem to throw it quickly (maybe a little reckless a few times last game) and Harris can usually roll out quick enough if he sees the blitz coming at the last second. I am curious to see how it plays out myself with our QBs and Mac's offense which has a lot of quick pass plays built into it.
They can put up those numbers. Easily as a matter of fact. The question is going to be if UK can move the ball. If UK's offense is no the fritz Florida will win the game. If UK plays at their peak then UK should win.
Agree on almost all of your prose, save the last part. I think Florida is the more talented team, but UK can certainly win the game.
Show me anything that suggests that Florida can put up 250 yards rushing on Kentucky, especially behind that offensive line. Hell, they couldn't do it against New Mexico State, who has an absolutely miserable excuse of a defense.
I'd also have to see Florida put those numbers up in the passing game to believe it. Right now, as I just showed you, Kentucky has the better numbers in the pass defense, and if we're talking strictly touchdown-to-interception ratio, it's not even close.
And of course you agree with everything except the last part. Everything except the last part was pro-Florida.
Worse based on what? They've played 2 P5 teams, Florida has played none. They have a more experienced offensive line (and that's saying something, because their line lacks a lot of experience), they have better RB's (I would take Brandon Wilds over any of Florida's running backs).
Florida couldn't get 250 yards on a horrid NMSU team. You think they're going to get it against a team that is worlds more talented than NMSU, and even significantly more talented than ECU?
Florida couldn't even get to 170 on the ground against ECU, and even Towson ran for more yards on ECU, and scored just as many touchdowns on the ground as UF.
Not sure who you think you're fooling, but Florida's run offense is an absolute mess, seen it for myself, offensive line shows a ton of youth and poor technique, and your RB looks like he's trying to play Dance Dance Revolution in the backfield on half of your run plays because a mean ol' ECU linebacker is back there from the get-go trying to paste him into the turf.
I have a feeling that Conrad will see some action in this game with the primary focus on the outside receivers
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