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Breaking down the Cats and Gators

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For the better part of three decades, Kentucky/Florida has been as one sided a series as there's been in all of sports. The Cats haven't beaten the Gators on the gridiron since 1986. For a good portion of last years game, it looked like the streak might end. Kentucky put together one of its best performances of the Stoops era but fell in overtime. The biggest reason UK missed out on a postseason opportunity last year was their inability to finish in close games (Florida, Mississippi State, Louisville). While two games (this year) isn't necessarily evidence that the "finishing" problem is fixed, it's certainly headed in the right direction. Both Louisiana and South Carolina had the football with a chance to win late. UK's defense came up big both times. Then the offense did the same (TD drive vs. ULL; ran out the final 4:00+ at SC). To win this weekend, the Cats will probably have to come up big late yet again. The Gators are coming off a less than inspiring 31-24 win over East Carolina. Like UK. Florida had to survive a late scare. Both the Cats and Gators are flawed but improving football teams. Should be another tight game.

Line: Kentucky +4.5

Series: Florida leads 48-17
Last Meeting (2014 at the Swamp): Florida 36 Kentucky 30 3OT
Last UK win (1986 in Lexington): Kentucky 10 Florida 3

TV/Game time: SEC Network, 7:30 Eastern

Kentucky offense vs. Florida defense: Advantage Kentucky
In 2014, UK took one of the nations youngest offensive units to the Swamp. The results were mixed. Kentucky put up 20 points in regulation (and over 400 yards of total offense), but turned the ball over three very big times. Towles had an inconsistent night, tossing 3 TD's and 3 INT's. He finished with 369 yards through the air. UK struggled to run the football (2.5 ypc on 33 attempts). Looking at this years matchup, we can probably expect a lot of the same. Kentucky's offense should be able to throw with consistent success, but running the football will be a chore. This will be the best d-line Kentucky has faced thus far. While the Cats o-line has improved, they'll struggle on occasion against the UF d-front (especially in the run game). The Gators are active up front (double digit TFL last weekend against ECU). That will present a challenge for Shannon Dawson and his commitment to the run. UK will REALLY need to throw with success on first down. The Gators have one of the elite CB's in college football, (Hargreaves), but he's questionable this weekend (leg injury). Without him, UF struggled at times to slow ECU's passing game. The Pirates passed for 346 yards. Surprisingly, Florida compiled only three sacks despite ECU dropping back to pass around 60 times. UK's pass protection will be the key to this matchup. Kentucky isn't going to run the ball down UF's throat. The passing game will be critical. UK has the skill guys to move the football. Kentucky will do as much as the pass protection allows. I think the UK big uglies get the job done more often than not.

Kentucky defense vs. Florida offense: Advantage Florida
The Gators were run heavy against the Pirates. They were also pretty effective, running for 4.4 ypc on 38 attempts. Both QB's (Grier and Harris) played against ECU. Allegedly, they'll both play this weekend. Grier is listed #1 on the depth chart. Against ECU, he completed 10-17 passes. The thing about this offense that stands out to me is how they block. McElwain does a good job of moving people around to create mismatches within the blocking scheme for each play. It isn't necessarily complex, but against young LB's, there will be times when UK simply gets outnumbered at the point of attack. This would be a REALLY good week to get Flannigan back (and thankfully, the Cats do get Hatcher back). The Gators OL doesn't look anything close to dominant, so UK should be able to hold their own up front. I don't think the Gators are loaded with playmakers (at least not with what we're used to seeing from Florida) at the skill spots, but they do have some very good athletes than can kill you in space (then again, so do most teams). Overall, this isn't necessarily a poor matchup for Kentucky, but the Gators running game is going to be a challenge. UK looks to be much improved against the run, however. Best guess for this weekend, both units enjoy some success. For Kentucky, when Florida does drive the football, we just have to hope for FG attempts. UK was able to force FG attempts last weekend, and it made the difference.

Special Teams: Slight Advantage Kentucky
I give UK the edge because of K. MacGinnis has made 13 of his last 14 FG attempts. The Gators Austin Hardin has made just 10 of his last 15. Both teams are dangerous in the return game. One concern for UK, the punting (Foster) was poor at SC. Not sure if those short kicks were intentional or not.

Florida will win if...they're able to run the football consistently and pressure Towles. Turnovers are always important in close matchups, so the Gators (like UK) need to take care of the football.

Kentucky will win if...Dawson is able to get this three headed monster(s) at WR (Badet, Johnson, and Baker) the football. If UK is able to find a running game, they'll be in GREAT shape. Defensively, replicate the SC performance (you can allow yards, but not points).

Most important thing for Kentucky...first down. Staying out of 3rd and long is always important, but especially so if you're playing against a good d-line. Plays that require 6-7 blockers or 5 step drop type time will be tough have success with against the Gators. Defensively, get UF off schedule. If their offense is in 3rd and short all night long, well, it will be a long night for UK.

Prediction...Kentucky 27 Florida 23...it will be another stomach churner for Mark Stoops and Big Blue nation. This is as good a matchup as UK has had with Florida in forever. This one will probably come down to which team makes the fewest mistakes (turnovers, game changing special teams plays, etc...). I like the Cats because the game is in Lexington and because the fans will give UK a rare "true" homefield edge. Also, I'm starting to really believe in this team. The defense has experience. The offense has a boatload of talent. And there's a little depth here and there.

Previous Picks
Kentucky 55 Louisiana 10 (UK 40-33)
Kentucky 34 South Carolina 31 (UK 26-22)

GBB!!!
 
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Cats: 21
Gators:17

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Kentucky:34
Florida:17

Yep the Gators get overwhelmed early, Kentucky is able to force 3+ turnovers and defense holds UF to 17.
Patrick Towles plays his best game and shreds the UF defense. Its the beginning of brighter days for the BBN.

After watching that UF vs ECU game again...hard to see UF stop us through the air. If a brand new qb and receiving corp can walk into Gainesville and get almost 350 yards and 3 tds. Patrick Towles should destroy them. We are talking the ECU who barely beat Towson. And lost their whole team last year. I really think UF is worse than anyone thinks... We as Kentucky fans are just too scared to admit that we are better than a team we lost to 28 times in a row which is understandable.

I have a million dollars that if the game were called correctly last year and we rightfully won, that most of you would very much agree with us winning fairly easy. Ill Admit it if im wrong but im going to be "that guy". Kentucky ends the streak and controls UF in all aspects of the game.
 
For the better part of three decades, Kentucky/Florida has been as one sided a series as there's been in all of sports. The Cats haven't beaten the Gators on the gridiron since 1986. For a good portion of last years game, it looked like the streak might end. Kentucky put together one of its best performances of the Stoops era but fell in overtime. The biggest reason UK missed out on a postseason opportunity last year was their inability to finish in close games (Florida, Mississippi State, Louisville). While two games (this year) isn't necessarily evidence that the "finishing" problem is fixed, it's certainly headed in the right direction. Both Louisiana and South Carolina had the football with a chance to win late. UK's defense came up big both times. Then the offense did the same (TD drive vs. ULL; ran out the final 4:00+ at SC). To win this weekend, the Cats will probably have to come up big late yet again. The Gators are coming off a less than inspiring 31-24 win over East Carolina. Like UK. Florida had to survive a late scare. Both the Cats and Gators are flawed but improving football teams. Should be another tight game.

Line: Kentucky +4.5

Series: Florida leads 48-17
Last Meeting (2014 at the Swamp): Florida 36 Kentucky 30 3OT
Last UK win (1986 in Lexington): Kentucky 10 Florida 3

TV/Game time: SEC Network, 7:30 Eastern

Kentucky offense vs. Florida defense: Advantage Kentucky
In 2014, UK took one of the nations youngest offensive units to the Swamp. The results were mixed. Kentucky put up 20 points in regulation (and over 400 yards of total offense), but turned the ball over three very big times. Towles had an inconsistent night, tossing 3 TD's and 3 INT's. He finished with 369 yards through the air. UK struggled to run the football (2.5 ypc on 33 attempts). Looking at this years matchup, we can probably expect a lot of the same. Kentucky's offense should be able to throw with consistent success, but running the football will be a chore. This will be the best d-line Kentucky has faced thus far. While the Cats o-line has improved, they'll struggle on occasion against the UF d-front (especially in the run game). The Gators are active up front (double digit TFL last weekend against ECU). That will present a challenge for Shannon Dawson and his commitment to the run. UK will REALLY need to throw with success on first down. The Gators have one of the elite CB's in college football, (Hargreaves), but he's questionable this weekend (leg injury). Without him, UF struggled at times to slow ECU's passing game. The Pirates passed for 346 yards. Surprisingly, Florida compiled only three sacks despite ECU dropping back to pass around 60 times. UK's pass protection will be the key to this matchup. Kentucky isn't going to run the ball down UF's throat. The passing game will be critical. UK has the skill guys to move the football. Kentucky will do as much as the pass protection allows. I think the UK big uglies get the job done more often than not.

Kentucky defense vs. Florida offense: Advantage Florida
The Gators were run heavy against the Pirates. They were also pretty effective, running for 4.4 ypc on 38 attempts. Both QB's (Grier and Harris) played against ECU. Allegedly, they'll both play this weekend. Grier is listed #1 on the depth chart. Against ECU, he completed 10-17 passes. The thing about this offense that stands out to me is how they block. McElwain does a good job of moving people around to create mismatches within the blocking scheme for each play. It isn't necessarily complex, but against young LB's, there will be times when UK simply gets outnumbered at the point of attack. This would be a REALLY good week to get Flannigan back (and thankfully, the Cats do get Hatcher back). The Gators OL doesn't look anything close to dominant, so UK should be able to hold their own up front. I don't think the Gators are loaded with playmakers (at least not with what we're used to seeing from Florida) at the skill spots, but they do have some very good athletes than can kill you in space (then again, so do most teams). Overall, this isn't necessarily a poor matchup for Kentucky, but the Gators running game is going to be a challenge. UK looks to be much improved against the run, however. Best guess for this weekend, both units enjoy some success. For Kentucky, when Florida does drive the football, we just have to hope for FG attempts. UK was able to force FG attempts last weekend, and it made the difference.

Special Teams: Slight Advantage Kentucky
I give UK the edge because of K. MacGinnis has made 13 of his last 14 FG attempts. The Gators Austin Hardin has made just 10 of his last 15. Both teams are dangerous in the return game. One concern for UK, the punting (Foster) was poor at SC. Not sure if those short kicks were intentional or not.

Florida will win if...they're able to run the football consistently and pressure Towles. Turnovers are always important in close matchups, so the Gators (like UK) need to take care of the football.

Kentucky will win if...Dawson is able to get this three headed monster(s) at WR (Badet, Johnson, and Baker) the football. If UK is able to find a running game, they'll be in GREAT shape. Defensively, replicate the SC performance (you can allow yards, but not points).

Most important thing for Kentucky...first down. Staying out of 3rd and long is always important, but especially so if you're playing against a good d-line. Plays that require 6-7 blockers or 5 step drop type time will be tough have success with against the Gators. Defensively, get UF off schedule. If their offense is in 3rd and short all night long, well, it will be a long night for UK.

Prediction...Kentucky 27 Florida 23...it will be another stomach churner for Mark Stoops and Big Blue nation. This is as good a matchup as UK has had with Florida in forever. This one will probably come down to which team makes the fewest mistakes (turnovers, game changing special teams plays, etc...). I like the Cats because the game is in Lexington and because the fans will give UK a rare "true" homefield edge. Also, I'm starting to really believe in this team. The defense has experience. The offense has a boatload of talent. And there's a little depth here and there.

Previous Picks
Kentucky 55 Louisiana 10 (UK 40-33)
Kentucky 34 South Carolina 31 (UK 26-22)

GBB!!!
As always nice breakdown Erik. Question for you, do you think that CMS overrode SD in the second half? Or, how much influence was imposed? Just did not seem like it was SD's M.O.
 
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thepip, Stoops said he influenced 2nd half play calling. Also, the holding penalties on those first two possessions hurt as much as anything else. I'm guessing Stoops (since he had the lead) didn't want to risk an INT or sack throwing on 2nd/3rd and long. Definitely a conservative approach.

GBB!!!
 
This would certainly look like the year to finally get them especially in Lexington. I to think it happens. Cats 31, Gator's 28. UK scores the go ahead TD on a long, 4th quarter drive.

We don't get that many chances to say this is a good time to be a UK football fan. My mind can't help, but get a bit ahead and think about being 5-0 going into an Auburn game we have a chance to win... But first things, first. Let's get this darn 800 lb gorilla of a losing streak off the program's back!
 
Kentucky:34
Florida:17

Yep the Gators get overwhelmed early, Kentucky is able to force 3+ turnovers and defense holds UF to 17.
Patrick Towles plays his best game and shreds the UF defense. Its the beginning of brighter days for the BBN.

After watching that UF vs ECU game again...hard to see UF stop us through the air. If a brand new qb and receiving corp can walk into Gainesville and get almost 350 yards and 3 tds. Patrick Towles should destroy them. We are talking the ECU who barely beat Towson. And lost their whole team last year. I really think UF is worse than anyone thinks... We as Kentucky fans are just too scared to admit that we are better than a team we lost to 28 times in a row which is understandable.

I have a million dollars that if the game were called correctly last year and we rightfully won, that most of you would very much agree with us winning fairly easy. Ill Admit it if im wrong but im going to be "that guy". Kentucky ends the streak and controls UF in all aspects of the game.
I would love nothing more than to blow Florida out in our first win against them since 86.
 
This is a huge statement game. This is a program-changer type of game if we go 2-0 in the SEC after beating Florida. It will mean we have turned the tide and are finally becoming a legit SEC team to be reckoned with.....I think the home field advantage gives us a squeaker win. This game could have recruiting implications too. HUGE GAME.
 
I'm going to disagree with you on a few things Erik.

Florida has two ineffective QB's, a FCS offensive line, and only one threat at WR. I know our defense has had its warts but UF is not going to move the ball on us. They don't have the Oline to run on us or the QB/WRs to throw on us. We'll put Westry on Robinson so Robinson won't be able to carry them. We'll stack the box daring them to throw the ball all while we're bringing the house. Advantage is actually UK's defense because I think their offense is that bad.

Offensively I think UK is going to have a lot more success running the ball than it did last year. I think our improved Oline and WR blocking will help us spring some big gains. Boom, Jojo, and Horton have all looked very good and I expect them to again on Saturday. Our passing success should cause the Florida defense to fall back and open some running lanes

UK: 34
UF: 20
 
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I always look forward to your expert analysis Erik, thanks again. Nice breakdown, and especially glad you see UK coming out on top. It should be a real battle but I also think UK comes out on top. Man, would it be great to start off 3-0.

Oh, and I think UL is playing Clemson, so it could be a great weekend.

But we really need to end this streak, Florida won't be down forever, and while I think a win last year would have been an upset I don't think I would consider a win this year a real upset. Fingers crossed.
 
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Thanks jauk11. Yeah dude, UK at 3-0 and U of L at 0-3 would make for a great Saturday!

Catfanfolife87, I hope you're right. I didn't think their o-line was quite that bad, but they have problems.

GBB!!!
 
I also watched a lot of the ECU-UF game last night. very concerned they will completely stone us on any run attempt up the middle or off tackle, resulting in 2nd & 11 every new set of downs. I'd bet we will see quite a bit more of the jet sweep type plays where Badet/Johnson/Timmons go in motion, take a quick flip from Towles and go around the end. And more screens in the flats to the RBs to get positive yardage on 1st down.

Have no fear of the UF secondary even if Hargreaves plays. If he does, who's he cover? If it is Baker, throw to Johnson or Badet. Or go with more 4 wideout sets, he can't cover more than 1 at a time.

UK 28
uf 24
 
I think a lot of this game hinges on our offense coming out of halftime.

We've came out in both games this yr as conservative as can be.....and stalled all the momentum. I think we should come out guns-a-blazin'.....even if we sputter a little or yield a TO, I think it may keep us in the game a little better than coming to a screaching halt.
 
Erik do you see Boom having another 100 plus night on the ground?

And do you think we might see some plays for the TE's start to come out?
 
^Conrad was targeted a few times during USC, but the conversions failed. They'll be targeted again. Though, keep in mind that he is still a true-frosh......it is likely that he won't set the world on fire just yet.
 
^Conrad was targeted a few times during USC, but the conversions failed. They'll be targeted again. Though, keep in mind that he is still a true-frosh......it is likely that he won't set the world on fire just yet.
The play in the end zone showed his talent, just a great play by the defender.

He will be a great one before his time is up at UK
 
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I'm going to disagree with you on a few things Erik.

Florida has two ineffective QB's, a FCS offensive line, and only one threat at WR. I know our defense has had its warts but UF is not going to move the ball on us. They don't have the Oline to run on us or the QB/WRs to throw on us. We'll put Westry on Robinson so Robinson won't be able to carry them. We'll stack the box daring them to throw the ball all while we're bringing the house. Advantage is actually UK's defense because I think their offense is that bad.

Offensively I think UK is going to have a lot more success running the ball than it did last year. I think our improved Oline and WR blocking will help us spring some big gains. Boom, Jojo, and Horton have all looked very good and I expect them to again on Saturday. Our passing success should cause the Florida defense to fall back and open some running lanes

UK: 34
UF: 20
If I read the OP correctly, he is basically saying the team that runs the football more effectively will be in good shape in this game. And I agree. However, there is a possibility that Towles and our receivers could just take over this game, if our pass protection holds up. It would be nice to get Ryan Flannigan back 100% this week. It would be nice to have Mikel Horton healthy. But in the injury column, the 800 pound gorilla in this game is Hargreaves. If Hargreaves can't play, or can't move well, huge advantage to Kentucky. Also, look for some new offensive wrinkles this week that Dawson hasn't shown yet. I also have Kentucky winning a close game in the high 20s.
 
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Florida is still a mess, you all. They struggled till the end against a team that beat friggin Towson 28-20. We need to jump on them early and never let up. We need to confuse them in the running game and keep attacking them thru the air, relentlessly. I honestly hope this controversy between Taylor and their coach causes division within the team and I honestly wouldn't mind a complete meltdown. Jump out on them and their coach might start berating them again and cause a complete collapse.

I wanna beat them by 50 and set their program back another 5 years. Crowd needs to show up.
 
You can bet that Mark Stoops and the team has had this game circled on the calendar for quite some time. We will see the coaches open up the playbook because Stoops knows how important this game is. They wouldn't have invited this many recruits to the game if they didn't feel confident that they would win.
 
Florida is still a mess, you all. They struggled till the end against a team that beat friggin Towson 28-20. We need to jump on them early and never let up. We need to confuse them in the running game and keep attacking them thru the air, relentlessly. I honestly hope this controversy between Taylor and their coach causes division within the team and I honestly wouldn't mind a complete meltdown. Jump out on them and their coach might start berating them again and cause a complete collapse.

I wanna beat them by 50 and set their program back another 5 years. Crowd needs to show up.

Well, it certainly did something, because Taylor moved from first string to third string in their depth chart. I did my own analysis in another thread though. Defensively, our pass defense holds up better than theirs, and Florida's run offense is very poor. None of their RB's are averaging good numbers.
That should bode well for us. South Carolina at least came into our game with a good RB.
 
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I agree. But take away 1 dropped pass and one uncalled late hit penalty and we probably beat them 38-6.

In the past, if we got off to the start we got off to in the first half and didn't have a first down for 1.5 quarters in the second half, we'd lose to even mediocre sec teams by 30.
 
You can bet that Mark Stoops and the team has had this game circled on the calendar for quite some time. We will see the coaches open up the playbook because Stoops knows how important this game is. They wouldn't have invited this many recruits to the game if they didn't feel confident that they would win.

It probably means more to the team than the coaches let on. I also think we'll see new wrinkles. Something that sticks out is the Florida linebackers' inability to defend the pass. With the stud-like athleticism and pass-catching abilities of Conrad, I see him getting into the fold in the receiving game.
 
I agree with ttu. We scar last year at home and No one was giving us a chance last week. We go down there and win in pretty solid fashion. No flukes or head scratcher. We were better.

Now Uf lost musch and that is huge but does anyone think Uf is better than last year? Well I know we're better. Things can go wrong and Uf has enough talent to win if we play bad but if we play well I just don't see this being less than a touchdown victory.
 
I am constantly waiting for doom when it comes to UK football, but for whatever reason, I feel that we may blow the doors off of Florida on Saturday night. I could certainly be wrong (I often am), but I think we're going to see a "complete performance" this weekend and I think the stadium is going to be rocking from start to finish.
 
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The D impressed me at SC holding them to 22. Bend but not break was great...I think UK will win this one 27-20 or something like that, by a bout a TD. I see we have a few people predicting a blowout win...I guess those guys did not watch either 2nd half the last two weeks. I would love to blowout FL for our first win in forever but just do not see it. I'll take 1 point wins the next two weeks and be pumped as hell.
 
Great stuff, Erik. I think the biggest factor in this game is going to be how UK does against Florida's cornerbacks, who unlike South Carolina, will get right up into the face of our WRs and try to beat them at the point of attack. To beat corners who play you tight man-to-man, you usually go over the top of them and make them pay. But this also takes time to do. Towles is a good deep ball thrower and our WR's have breakout speed, so no problem there. The problem is that our offensive line is better at run blocking than at pass blocking right now and ULL was able to sack Towles a few times on plays that took awhile to develop.

This is why I think the game hinges on our ability to pass block and why Mikel Horton's return is so important and why CJ Conrad has to grow up quickly for this weekend's tilt. McIlwain is a great DB's coach and with or without Hargreaves, the strategy will be to keep the ball in Towles's hands for as long as possible and either sack him or force him to make a mistake.

I think UK's defense will give up 28 points and that wouldn't be the end of the world. Aside from the usual turnover margin and special teams wildcards, the offense's ability to pass block will be a huge difference-maker in this game. Do it and we could put up a bunch points on Florida. Don't do it, and we'd be lucky to score 14.

My prediction: UK splits the difference and Commonwealth's magic takes over. UK 35, UF 28 in OT.
 
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Great stuff, Erik. I think the biggest factor in this game is going to be how UK does against Florida's cornerbacks, who unlike South Carolina, will get right up into the face of our WRs and try to beat them at the point of attack. To beat corners who play you tight man-to-man, you usually go over the top of them and make them pay. But this also takes time to do. Towles is a good deep ball thrower and our WR's have breakout speed, so no problem there. The problem is that our offensive line is better at run blocking than at pass blocking right now and ULL was able to sack Towles a few times on plays that took awhile to develop.

This is why I think the game hinges on our ability to pass block and why Mikel Horton's return is so important and why CJ Conrad has to grow up quickly for this weekend's tilt. McIlwain is a great DB's coach and with or without Hargreaves, the strategy will be to keep the ball in Towles's hands for as long as possible and either sack him or force him to make a mistake.

I think UK's defense will give up 28 points and that wouldn't be the end of the world. Aside from the usual turnover margin and special teams wildcards, the offense's ability to pass block will be a huge difference-maker in this game. Do it and we could put up a bunch points on Florida. Don't do it, and we'd be lucky to score 14.

My prediction: UK splits the difference and Commonwealth's magic takes over. UK 35, UF 28 in OT.

I like our receivers in those types of battles out on the perimeter. When a CB gets beat in the press, there becomes an immense risk of giving up 6. Also, Kentucky's receivers were scorching Florida's CB's last season, and our receivers improved tremendously since then.

I should also point out that, uh.. McElwain has never coached CB's... He's always been an offensive guy. Always.
 
^ to echo...
Muschamp D with last year's talent >>>>>>Florida '15 D.

Without Hargreaves... Tisk tisk.
 
I don't think UK is ready to break the Florida streak yet.

Cats hang tough for 3 quarters, but the Gators put it way in the 4th.

Florida wins, 38-20.
 
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