Big Z situation
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The theory has been discussed in a couple threads now. Just sayin.
I love conspiracy theories. The same info can be used to spin any conspiracy theory supporting any POV. This situation is simultaneously the board trying to make Cal look bad to run him off, and Cal putting up smoke and mirrors inviting a guy he knew would never show up to make it look like he was trying and to give him an excuse for any poor performance this year.
To me, it feels like there is something going on that is keeping Z from qualifying and maybe UK is not releasing those details, perhaps to keep from embarrassing the kid.
I really want to believe the UK admissions staff wouldn't pull a stunt like this just to swell up on Calipari.
I really want to believe the UK admissions staff wouldn't pull a stunt like this just to swell up on Calipari.
There are once powerful forces that have to sit on their hands and watch this clownshow of a coach do whatever the hell he wants because of the rediculous contract. They have to be very frustrated. Powerful people do not like being in a situation such as this.
I think this makes sense, something about this situation doesn't ring true. Call it conspiracy theory if you will but the lack of definitive answers and real information doesn't add up. All we have is speculation and someone's best guess as to where things stand.
I've had this same thought myself, that this would be one way of making Calipari leave. But to use & screw over Zvonimir Ivisic in order to get Calipari to leave, is pretty rotten.
It seems that he didn't pass the UK admissions process that was presented to him, and UK is choosing to not make this public out of respect for Z.
Yeah, I think this situation is way too public for the administration department to punish a kid, just to send a message to Cal. That would be an incredibly bad move.
Even the biggest Cal detractor here on the message board wouldn't do that if he/she could, so the administration would give no thought whatsoever in that direction.
I would love nothing more than to see Cal walk away and take his culture with him, but there would be no way I would deny eligibility to a player, just to accomplish that, it wouldn't even cross my mind.
Something else is going on.
But how much of a punishment is it to the kid. If the rumors are true that other schools are ready to snag him up. All he truly wants is a shot at the NBA, and believe UK was the best way to get there. In the end, he’ll be fine either way.
A couple of things here. First, many in the Admissions department hate athletics, all athletics. They are liberal elites that want a public means to make a statement. The impact on this is bigger than Z. This will inhibit our ability to recruit foreign players, inhibit our ability to get future coaches (who wants to take a job to fight Admissions to get recruits), and behind the scenes minor things have been happening for a while. This is just the first really visible situation. Lastly, Z failed the test due to a handicap. Obviously, UK has NO problem discriminating against people with learning disabilities. And yes, Capaluto could put an end to this today….
This Big Z eligibility FUBAR is the biggest fiasco I have observed in my 70 years( I go back to the Bill Spivey/ Shelby Linville 51 championship team) of following the cats. I have no inside information but I do not believe this situation was caused by some nameless, faceless overzealous bureaucrat in the admissions office. There is obviously a CYA effort going on to obscure the anti Z position taken by either members of the coaching staff or more likely by certain team members. I remember that certain team member's "camps" were very upset that UK was on the verge of signing Dickinson and were hinting that certain members would transfer if this happened. Does anyone know how the commitment of Z was received by the team. THis entire situation can be summarized in three words: Male Bovine Feculum!
I'm curious as to what minor things are happening behind the scenes. What are some examples that back up you post? Not attacking, just curious.
With UK silent on the situation, the holdup might be in "Z" being able to obtain a student VISA. The process is that he can only apply for the VISA after he is accepted to a school. When his admittance to the school was the holdup, we were hearing quite a bit of info but it has gone silent...
How long can it take to get student visa in USA?
Application processing time could vary between 3 day to a few weeks depending on volume. If the embassy finds issues with your application, the processing time may stretch up to a few months.
How long can it take to get student visa in USA?
Application processing time could vary between 3 day to a few weeks depending on volume. If the embassy finds issues with your application, the processing time may stretch up to a few months.
I would think that would be an easy, and publicly ok, thing to say in their initial statement.
It has went quiet since that silly statement from UK last week.
As for this being some nefarious plan to get rid of Calipari, please. This guy isn't gonna be the reason UK does or doesn't have successful season.
Calipari has more than enough talent as is if healthy to make a run. If Bradshaw and Ugona get and stay healthy no excuses. Z would have been a nice depth piece though.
Calipari needs to put up or shut up regardless this season. He won't resign though due to this. UK is gonna have to write him a big check.
As for this being some nefarious plan to get rid of Calipari, please. This guy isn't gonna be the reason UK does or doesn't have successful season.
Calipari has more than enough talent as is if healthy to make a run. If Bradshaw and Ugona get and stay healthy no excuses. Z would have been a nice depth piece though.
Calipari needs to put up or shut up regardless this season. He won't resign though due to this. UK is gonna have to write him a big check.
The worst part about it? UK isn’t even remotely “elite” when it comes to academics. When I went to graduate school on the GI bill it wasn’t even on my list of possible destinations.
It probably isn't. It could be as simple as someone is being extremely black and white about a rule. Which normally I'm ok with, but I'm also not a cultist. I'm not naive enough to believe there are no grey areas. People need grace and sometimes deserve to have faith rewarded.
I'd imagine if he had passed the stupid section of the exam we heard about, we'd know. If he goes to another school, we will know it isn't a VISA issue.
Not a peep. I'm surprised Mitch hasn't said a word. We know that relationship between Cal and Mitch is rocky though. But still you think he'd put the program first and go to bat for this kid. And he may have, but we sure haven't heard hide nor hair of it.
It isn't per se. But using a kid as a tool by people in education is pretty damn rotten.
I think you're right, but in this case, I really think there is an issue that we aren't being told about.
This has been made into a huge issue, too big of an issue for one person to continue holding this up.
I would be stunned if Capaluto hasn’t visited the admittance department yet. Assuming he has, nothing has come of it, which means the issue can't just be waived through.
Also, Cal has been very quiet about this, that wouldn't be the case if it was just some twerp in admissions being an asshat.
Could be if Cal is trying to keep good will; Cal, for all his faults, doesn't usually throw someone under bus publicly
Also, if the issue were much bigger than a waiver, that would've leaked somehow in today's world.
Cal brought media members into his Bahamas hotel room last summer, ripped Mitch for not getting what he wanted and he hit Stoops with shrapnel in the process, so Cal has shown he will not hesitate to publicly call people out when he feels wronged.
I hated what Cal did last summer, he looked like a spoiled brat that didn’t get his way. But I would have zero issue if he called out whoever is holding this up, if in fact that is what's happening. There is a right time and a wrong time to put someone on blast, this is one of those times where it is right, as long as it's not some legit issue with Z.
Mitch, Cal and anyone else who has real info about this is as quiet as they can be. That speaks volumes in and of itself.
I said usually. lol.
That was bizarre behavior even for Cal, so, I'm not sure what the heck was going on there. What's even worse, is the football coaches ran their mouths (which I get), but then proceed to have a crap year themselves. Like, come on.
If there is some legit issue with Z, it needs to come out factually and respectfully. Otherwise, nothing will be said, and he will end up at another school and we will all be like, 'WTH UK?!"
BBN is just tired of the BS from all sides, that includes Cal, Mitch, Stoops, etc. Just put out a good product (which neither FB or BB has really done in the past year), represent the university with class, be good to fans, and get some wins. Between Cal, Stoops, and Mitch they make nearly 20 million (Cal- 9M, Stoops- 8.5M, Mitch- 1.5M)
And yet we constantly get run arounds, lack luster performances, drama etc. Just tired of it.
UK football was never much of anything, so to me, it's not as big a deal when the fb program underperforms.
But our basketball program is our golden goose and Cal is currently running it into the ground. His behavior has been nothing short of bizarre and his results have been ridiculously bad.
This craziness won't end until Cal and Mitch are gone. Those 2 are the ones doing the most damage. Cal has been trying to flail away at it and nothing is working. His time has come and gone. He has 1 title and a few final 4's, which is great, but it’s over.
i guess you missed how loaded our team is with talent
the ignorance of trolls never ceases to amaze me
Jack Pilgrim threw in something today on KSR that caught my attention. He said, "He has submitted 2 different tests, both with different results. One of them he passed but it was red flagged for a reason we don't need to get into. The other was considered a fail."
That's the first time I've heard anything like that.
