CLASSIC goalpost moving.Are you on the admissions committee? Have you personally read or reviewed thus kids admissions credentials?
CLASSIC goalpost moving.Are you on the admissions committee? Have you personally read or reviewed thus kids admissions credentials?
See the bold print, and then realize that response proves what I said originally, which is they are already making exceptions for the policy, as I stated the first time. And the only way that list of exceptions would make sense would be if English was the primary language for all of them, but it isn't. So let's just say it is for the reason you stated, that isn't an exception based on the fact that they are proficient in English, but based on something that doesn't even apply to the basis of the test.Are you on the admissions committee? Have you personally read or reviewed thus kids admissions credentials? We are not playing a statistical game here or making inferences based on population characteristics. This is one person that is applying to the university and unless you have direct access to the committee or you have one on one experience with this kids, you know nothing that will serve to contradict anything admissions has done. Bluster and babbling population data contributes nothing here except to rationalize a desired result
Further, there are many reasons why admissions criteria might vary from one country to another. One very simple one would be to attract certain ethnic backgrounds to the institution.
Who cares what other schools do? That’s their problem.I’m not arguing with you, just having a conversation . I’ve worked in Higher Ed (including athletics) for a long time now. I’m very aware how admissions standards are lowered for athletes. If he doesn’t get into UK and no other school takes him, I’m cool with it. If he doesn’t get into UK and another school, most likely with stricter admission standards, admits him, then it will be another story.
You know this is true for students with something other than English as a primary language? I frankly doubt that.See the bold print, and then realize that response proves what I said originally, which is they are already making exceptions for the policy, as I stated the first time. And the only way that list of exceptions would make sense would be if English was the primary language for all of them, but it isn't. So let's just say it is for the reason you stated, that isn't an exception based on the fact that they are proficient in English, but based on something that doesn't even apply to the basis of the test.
🤣UK athletics represented about 2% of the school’s revenues last year.
Perhaps Capiluoto is giving this situation the amount of attention that is appropriate given the size of the athletics department relative to other parts of the university.
🤣The amount of money generated by UK athletics pales in comparison to the amount of money generated by UK Healthcare. Nationwide awareness of our basketball team among casual fans is certainly a nice thing to have, but it’s ultimately worthless if that’s not translated into revenue.
UK Healthcare is the single most important entity for the University by a long shot.
Do you have proof he can’t? Next.Really? So you have personal knowledge you can hand him a text in English and think he can understand it? Discuss it? Write essays on it? This is college. Not first grade.
🤣Do the math. Even if you assume all of those extra enrollments were purely driven by sports success, the revenue still doesn’t come close to what UK Health is generating.
UK Health pulled in $2.8 billion last year, and the Board announced this past spring that they were planning a $2.4 billion dollar expansion.
Healthcare, like many other large universities with hospitals, is where UK makes most of their money. Focusing on healthcare is where Capiluoto and the Board spend the majority of their time. If you don’t believe me, then ask them.
UK HealthCare plans $2.4B expansion — 6 things to know
UK HealthCare is planning an expansion that could cost the health system up to $2.4 billion.www.beckershospitalreview.com
That's when that idiot said Trump would never be President. 🤡
I couldn’t imagine picking a school based primarily on athletics success.You're an idiot if you think this is the case- I mean truly, you're a moron if you think it's that black and white.
UCONN applications skyrocketed after they won the title again this year. LSU had a record freshman class after the Joe Burrow year- and a record yer for fundraising across all of campus.
Attendance and applications can be directly related to athletic success.
Boosters donate more money to the university as a whole when athletics are good (which does not get contributed to the athletic departments bottom line).
More apparel and branded merchandise is sold when athletics are good. (Which also mostly does not get contributed to the athletic departments bottom line).
The public and national perspective of an entire university and in our case, an entire STATE, change for the BETTER when athletics are good.
The local economy is impacted when athletics are good (bars, restaurants, shops, people driving in from all over the state to attend games and stay in hotel rooms, etc.)
Athletics is the "Front Porch" of every university in America almost.
Do you think Alabama is a national brand because of their academics?
Did Gonzaga become a household name because they have great science teachers?
You think alumni and boosters/donors are lining up to donate a bunch of money to the school because we signed a new Economics professor or win a math competition?
2% my ass- Athletics has about as big of an impact on a university's bottom line as anything else I can think of besides healthcare potentially (because that's the biggest scam in America)- because it impacts SO MANY OTHER THINGS (fundraising, applications, attendance, local economy, etc.) and sports can single-handedly change the reputation of an entire school and an entire STATE.
Healthcare ain't doing that.
I couldn’t imagine picking a school based primarily on athletics success.
I’m not the one deciding he is admitted or not. Why would I be a nosy AH and delve into the kid’s private matters? Oops….Do you have proof he can’t? Next.
When the whole forum is telling you your an idiot maybe it’s time you read the room.
As long as we keep investing in football, I’ll be happy.It generates money, and is beyond self sufficient. Oh, and we are a basketball school.
The admissions folks are concerned about student money. FIFYYou think admissions requirements are the same for every student? In state, out of state, international? It’s pretty simple. The admissions folks are concerned about student success. You care about basketball. Their concerns take precedent.
And making their quotas. And bringing in students that can actually do the work.The admissions folks are concerned about student money. FIFY
Do you (think) know everything or are you just an admissions expert?And making their quotas. And bringing in students that can actually do the work.
I thought he was long gone… damn.You didn't know? He gets to be the contrarian in every thread on here. Oh, you dislike Cal's coaching? It's go time. Oh, you're defending Cal on admissions now? Oh, it's go time.
Lmao, dude is a ****ing clown.
It’s kinda like running from a bear I don’t have to know everything. Just have to know more than you.Do you (think) know everything or are you just an admissions expert?
I thought he was long gone… damn.
Bygod, now there's an analogy 😂😂It’s kinda like running from a bear I don’t have to know everything. Just have to know more than you.
Funny how just a little reality just pisses all over conspiracy theories and made up BS.
That's fine. But if their status as "Big Boosters" can't bring pressure to bear to make this happen, what good are they?
amazed and frustrated that some clerks are being allowed to mess with what amounts to the University's biggest status symbol and most reliable source of revenue generated from donors. To issue a statement like UK did by its chief spokesman last week -- "We are all working diligently to make this happen" then to apparently fail for no good reason
If your goal is to play professionally, you’d be kinda stupid to not do that.I couldn’t imagine picking a school based primarily on athletics success.
THAT I get, but otherwise..not so much.If your goal is to play professionally, you’d be kinda stupid to not do that.
That’s the problem, people accept too much anymore. That’s why everything is so crazy.We live in an era where nothing makes sense. Our president lives in a coma. Just accept it and move on.
President Capaluto would have no pressure if he would be a good leader and end this right now. If it’s just an admissions issue over something as trivial as this then he should sign the waiver and let him begin.Know a couple of big boosters who are in a holding pattern watching the Z situation. They're VERY upset how this is going to affect the program, recruiting wise, monetary contributions and public opinions nationally. Upset this puts undue pressure on President Capaluto, which they're very supportive.
That’s the problem, people accept too much anymore. That’s why everything is so crazy.
The guy still wears a mask, even alone in his car.
I guess it depends on who you ask. There are many folks who focus on academics who couldn’t care less about sports.This. It may not be right or even fair, but athletics in this day and age are the face of many a university.
For example, if you mention the University of Alabama, are people going to go, "Oh yeah, they have a great law school!" (which they do...renowned actually). No! They're going to go, "Oh yeah, they always have a great football team!"
Same goes for Auburn. Known for two things: Football and Vet School.
Duke? Basketball and Law.
There are UK fans al over the place including in Japan, China, and Scotland. And I guarantee you it isn't because UK Healthcare is so great (which it is).
That's true. I'm talking for the general public. If sports didn't matter, they wouldn't rake in MILLIONS. I mean Jarred Vanderbilt just landed 12.5 million a year to play basketball.I guess it depends on who you ask. There are many folks who focus on academics who couldn’t care less about sports.
I tried not caring about things for a year. Wanted to just lay down and die. Not a good way to live imo. Doesn't mean you get overworked about things, but not caring about anything is worse than death imo.I cried about it for a couple years, but it didn't change anything.
God, you're the worstI’ll take that as a no.
The amount of money generated by UK athletics pales in comparison to the amount of money generated by UK Healthcare. Nationwide awareness of our basketball team among casual fans is certainly a nice thing to have, but it’s ultimately worthless if that’s not translated into revenue.
UK Healthcare is the single most important entity for the University by a long shot.
You mean the Brand Cal has diminished.This. You can't really put a dollar amount on brand.
We can let millions of illegals cross the border, feed, house, provide medical treatment and clothe them. But, we cannot hire a interpreter for 16 hours a day to attend classes and go to practice with Z.It is ABSOLUTELY going to impact recruiting going forward, especially internationally.
I obviously said something supporting UK and the basketball program. Thanks for reminding me that many on this board find that offensive. I really care, you know?God, you're the worst
No. The hate and Kentucky bashing here and the disrespect for the university by individuals and so called fans which are obviously unqualified to discuss the subject is always appalling.I'm sure you're quite used to it.
People need to quit responding to him. He's a troll. Not even a UK fan.Do you have proof he can’t? Next.
When the whole forum is telling you your an idiot maybe it’s time you read the room.