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Bad C-rod news ...potentially

It's hilarious that people are already taking the ball out of UK's all time leading rusher's hands. Not you UKW, but the fact that this thread is questioning Benny is hysterical. How long have you people watched UK football? I'm new to this and the basketball blog, but people seem to think everyone has to be an all American and we have to win every game or they are not fans.
Who is doing that? Because someone pointed out that they had both lost the ball the same.

I will bet he and Levis would make a heckuva one two punch.
 
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From what I heard it has nothing to do with legal issues or anything that UK has control over issuing the discipline. It seems it is related to a job he had where he was being paid a larger amount of money than he should have made and he could be ruled ineligible by the NCAA. The question is if the NCAA deems him fully ineligible or suspends him for a few games. With that said I don't know how the NCAA monitors those things to know if a booster is paying a player too much money for these "summer jobs" so the info could be bad. Just take it with a grain of salt.
 
From what I heard it has nothing to do with legal issues or anything that UK has control over issuing the discipline. It seems it is related to a job he had where he was being paid a larger amount of money than he should have made and he could be ruled ineligible by the NCAA. The question is if the NCAA deems him fully ineligible or suspends him for a few games. With that said I don't know how the NCAA monitors those things to know if a booster is paying a player too much money for these "summer jobs" so the info could be bad. Just take it with a grain of salt.

If this is it, it's an almost guarantee that we self reported it. If we did, fans should be irate. Collectives are blatantly buying players but we have an issue with a kid supposedly making too much at a job he worked?

Guess we'll see eventually.
 
Jeez, here's how we know we're still newcomers to having success in $EC football, we can't even come up with way to pay players correctly!
 
Matt Jones just said, his sources are saying he probably won't be on the team.

Better not be true.

Yes, we have some depth at RB, and you can plug and play just about anyone behind our OL (assuming they are still good this year).

However, the #1 spot on one of the best rushing teams in the nation just opened up, and I would think that job would be very attractive to a lot of RBs. Go find the most badass RB you can.
 
From what I heard it has nothing to do with legal issues or anything that UK has control over issuing the discipline. It seems it is related to a job he had where he was being paid a larger amount of money than he should have made and he could be ruled ineligible by the NCAA. The question is if the NCAA deems him fully ineligible or suspends him for a few games. With that said I don't know how the NCAA monitors those things to know if a booster is paying a player too much money for these "summer jobs" so the info could be bad. Just take it with a grain of salt.

wtf….

BBN should riot. I don’t believe that at all. Hell, Stoops and Vince will riot.

I’m not believing that till we know for sure. It just sounds too stupid and against everything our football team is about, IMO. Stoops is a players coach.
 
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wtf….

BBN should riot. I don’t believe that at all. Hell, Stoops and Vince will riot.

I’m not believing that till we know for sure. It just sounds too stupid and against everything our football team is about, IMO. Stoops is a players coach.
I didn't say you had to believe it and is why I said take it with a grain of salt. The one it came from should know but again sometimes information gets twisted.
 
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I’m viewing this year as a transition year for our O line so having the star veteran running back was vital especially early in the year. This hurts for sure.
 
wtf….

BBN should riot. I don’t believe that at all. Hell, Stoops and Vince will riot.

I’m not believing that till we know for sure. It just sounds too stupid and against everything our football team is about, IMO. Stoops is a players coach.
If this is even remotely accurate...UK should put up the middle finger and dare the NCAA to punish you. How in the world we can substantiate paying players legally vs. illegally in this new NIL world is impossible. And if we're talking technicalities....WTH.

And if this is more Mitch being a choir boy on this NIL and hurting UK...then he needs to hit the road.
 
I bet that if true, Chris got paid significantly less than Herschel was paid at UGa 40 years ago.

How much do you know for fact Herschel got paid?

But to CRod, I would be surprised if this getting paid, no idea what it is, but from everything going on NCAA has no interest in overseeing it. I don't think he has legal issues, well other than the driving issue. And not suppose to be UK related. All the secrecy just leads to speculation by fans. Same thing all year with Arik Gilbert, and later with JT Daniels once the season started. No reason why JT wasn't playing, no reason why Gilbert wasn't with the team, 9 months later, JT is gone on to WVU and Gilbert is playing TE at UGA. No reasons leaked for either of the things last year.
 
How much do you know for fact Herschel got paid?

But to CRod, I would be surprised if this getting paid, no idea what it is, but from everything going on NCAA has no interest in overseeing it. I don't think he has legal issues, well other than the driving issue. And not suppose to be UK related. All the secrecy just leads to speculation by fans. Same thing all year with Arik Gilbert, and later with JT Daniels once the season started. No reason why JT wasn't playing, no reason why Gilbert wasn't with the team, 9 months later, JT is gone on to WVU and Gilbert is playing TE at UGA. No reasons leaked for either of the things last year.
The previous post said the issue was CR got paid too much for a summer job, not paid by the University. As to Herschel, I have a source from the era.
 
The previous post said the issue was CR got paid too much for a summer job, not paid by the University. As to Herschel, I have a source from the era.
Well let's hear it, not some rumor spread by someone he didn't sign with. His parents weren't destitute, and theulir son had a full scholarship. His parents say they bought his car. Having sources means tou got nothing,put it outthere if you have it.

Crod is a very good player, maybe better than that, but in today's football RBs don't have the value of QB, WR or even pass rushers or LT. Combine all of that with a relatively short career they just don't warrent 1st round money. I saw HW play, and Todd Gurley was the best back I saw play in SEC. He only returned 5-6 kickoffs at UGA, 3 were for TDs. His vision,and ability to accelerate throught the hole was unreal. At 20 under he was a world class hurdler at 230 lb. His balance, vision and power was a deadly combination
HW was big and had world class speed, I saw him run 10.06 100m. At 38 he ran a 4.38 40, but he had no vision and the next guy he jokes will be the first
 
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From what I heard it has nothing to do with legal issues or anything that UK has control over issuing the discipline. It seems it is related to a job he had where he was being paid a larger amount of money than he should have made and he could be ruled ineligible by the NCAA. The question is if the NCAA deems him fully ineligible or suspends him for a few games. With that said I don't know how the NCAA monitors those things to know if a booster is paying a player too much money for these "summer jobs" so the info could be bad. Just take it with a grain of salt.
Who defined "too much money"?
 
I have no idea just passing along what I heard. As I have said multiple times you can believe it or not. I'm not sure I believe it myself but do think it isn't related to any sort of legal issue or we would have heard from the media what it is.
I wasn't fussing at you, I think I was saying it rhetorically. I'm frustrated though, I know that.
 
Welp, as I said earlier in the thread if he is indeed gone let's keep the ball in our best players hand more. Become a 60-40 pass play offense.

If he is gone I hope he can go in the supplemental NFL draft & teams understand he didn't do anything remotely wrong. Like Jeremy Jarmon's unjust suspension for workout supplements in 2009, still got picked I think 3rd round supplemental.
 
Crod is a very good player, maybe better than that, but in today's football RBs don't have the value of QB, WR or even pass rushers or LT.
I would love to agree with you, to minimize the potential loss of Crod, but his statistics speak for themselves.

He is an established difference maker. It might not take a miracle to fully fill the void with the remaining players, but I'll be shocked if we don't take a step back at running back.
 
If we lose who would’ve become our all time leading rusher because of him getting money in todays era, I’m going to be beyond angry. Makes zero sense. All these schools out here openly waiving collective money at high schoolers and getting in bidding wars for other teams’ players (looking at you, Lincoln Riley), and Kentucky is gonna lose a dude for doing something like him getting extra pay for a summer job? That’s an “old Kentucky football” kick to the nuts if I’ve ever seen one.
 
Who is doing that? Because someone pointed out that they had both lost the ball the same?

If this is it, it's an almost guarantee that we self reported it. If we did, fans should be irate. Collectives are blatantly buying players but we have an issue with a kid supposedly making too much at a job he worked?

Guess we'll see eventually.
Typiical
 
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If we lose who would’ve become our all time leading rusher because of him getting money in todays era, I’m going to be beyond angry. Makes zero sense. All these schools out here openly waiving collective money at high schoolers and getting in bidding wars for other teams’ players (looking at you, Lincoln Riley), and Kentucky is gonna lose a dude for doing something like him getting extra pay for a summer job? That’s an “old Kentucky football” kick to the nuts if I’ve ever seen one.
Get ready for more, same AD.
 
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I would love to agree with you, to minimize the potential loss of Crod, but his statistics speak for themselves.

He is an established difference maker. It might not take a miracle to fully fill the void with the remaining players, but I'll be shocked if we don't take a step back at running back.

I'm sorry Hack but a RB is no longer a difference maker in college football. CRod is a good back. But it was WR and WL making teams nervous against UK. WL is much more important for UK's success than CROD IS.
 
The slopes are getting more slippery with each episode of "As the NIL turns." Here we have a star player with a job that he's "overpaid" for. So how's that different than a high paying NIL where he doesn't return economic value versus what he's paid for advertising? A constant cacophony of whose team is getting over more re NIL is going to grow tiresome.
 
Who determined Wandale "earned" $150,000 from the local insurance company, and it was a "fair" compensation? That it wasn't too much payment, and he should be ruled ineligible if it were?
 
Here we have a star player with a job that he's "overpaid" for.
This has to have predated NIL, as “the market” establishes NIL value, and the NCAA is unlikely to ever find a way around the SCOTUS opinion.

Sounds like someone got real sloppy or talkative about some things that might have occurred in years, prior.
 
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WL is much more important for UK's success than CROD IS.
I can agree with that without surrendering my main point: Crod is a cut above the rest we have, by talent and vastly by experience at his position.

Very good backs are a dime-a-dozen in the NFL, and get too broken up to last very long. Hence, huge, multi-year investments in backs are unwise.

Crod’s situation is a tad different: unlike the NFL, we can’t go out and buy a guy in off-season to equal his production, and I doubt those behind him can. He is a former three-star who has clearly out-performed many former HS 5 Star running backs. Our other three-star backs have looked like three-star backs.
 
I can agree with that without surrendering my main point: Crod is a cut above the rest we have, by talent and vastly by experience at his position.

Very good backs are a dime-a-dozen in the NFL, and get too broken up to last very long. Hence, huge, multi-year investments in backs are unwise.

Crod’s situation is a tad different: unlike the NFL, we can’t go out and buy a guy in off-season to equal his production, and I doubt those behind him can. He is a former three-star who has clearly out-performed many former HS 5 Star running backs. Our other three-star backs have looked like three-star backs.

I have praised him more than once as a top SEC back. But bottom line it isn't him that will determine UK's season. It's WL's play that will determine if UK beats UGA and plays in Atlanta. Crod as good as he is. Isn't going to beat UGA, he had 7 yards on 7 carries in 21, but WL can.
 
I have praised him more than once as a top SEC back. But bottom line it isn't him that will determine UK's season. It's WL's play that will determine if UK beats UGA and plays in Atlanta. Crod as good as he is. Isn't going to beat UGA, he had 7 yards on 7 carries in 21, but WL can.
Grump, the UGA defense of 2022 will not be the UGA defense of 2021. Great, no doubt, but, even at UGA, the 2021 defense was special.

If CRod gets to play this year, which, frankly, seems increasingly unlikely, I expect he will average close to his career numbers.

I wouldn’t judge him based upon one game against an historically elite defensive front.

Watch some CRod YouTube highlights for a broader perspective on his talent.
 
I have praised him more than once as a top SEC back. But bottom line it isn't him that will determine UK's season. It's WL's play that will determine if UK beats UGA and plays in Atlanta. Crod as good as he is. Isn't going to beat UGA, he had 7 yards on 7 carries in 21, but WL can.
You don’t watch a lot of Ky games if you do t think backs like Crod and Benny make a difference for teams like us

- Levis was not very good in mizz or Florida games…but we controlled the ball rushing and won those games
- Levis was terrible in South Carolina game and we squeaked it out with the same formula…control LOS and play keep away moving the chains with Crod
- Sure UGA took Crod out of game….the only way anyone did a thing was passing while abondon the run last year vs that D

I can’t barely remember a game we win in Snell era that was Qb and defensive wins….

In pros…Rb are dime a dozen but at college ….a power back and good OL is basically how we’ve passed USC Ana Mizzou in Sec I’d argue gong with smaller backs will not keep the chains moving which is why we wear many teams out
 
Who determined Wandale "earned" $150,000 from the local insurance company, and it was a "fair" compensation? That it wasn't too much payment, and he should be ruled ineligible if it were?

That's why I think (assuming the issue is really the issue) that we self reported it.

The difference in your example is the nil deals were all cleared with uks AOC but crod probably thought this didn't need to be cleared.

We'll see but I don't know what else could explain it.
 
Like K_Time said, CRod kept the chains moving. He kept the offense ahead of schedule and kept us out of third and longs which helped us sustain long drives. There is a big difference in him and our other backs. Hopefully Wright can fill in CRod's void if he is gone because the rest of our RB's haven't shown they can.

 
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That's why I think (assuming the issue is really the issue) that we self reported it.

The difference in your example is the nil deals were all cleared with uks AOC but crod probably thought this didn't need to be cleared.

We'll see but I don't know what else could explain it.
If this is remotely true….Mitch needs to go sing in his choir and fans should riot at Commonwealth! To take an all time school great off the team and a kid that came back to school over this sounds like the biggest bull crap ever

We have Bama and Texas Am throwing mud publcslly over who cheated the most…and we’re facing losing an all time rush leader over what will be eons less money than schools we compete with on the fields
 
You don’t watch a lot of Ky games if you do t think backs like Crod and Benny make a difference for teams like us

- Levis was not very good in mizz or Florida games…but we controlled the ball rushing and won those games
- Levis was terrible in South Carolina game and we squeaked it out with the same formula…control LOS and play keep away moving the chains with Crod
- Sure UGA took Crod out of game….the only way anyone did a thing was passing while abondon the run last year vs that D

I can’t barely remember a game we win in Snell era that was Qb and defensive wins….

In pros…Rb are dime a dozen but at college ….a power back and good OL is basically how we’ve passed USC Ana Mizzou in Sec I’d argue gong with smaller backs will not keep the chains moving which is why we wear many teams out

I have watch alot of UK football the last few years. And quite a few other teams too. UK could be a good team with Crod and no WL, they can be a great team with WL and no CROD.

UGA has 3 good backs, who knows what the frosh will be, none will be near the top in conference unless it's McIntosh for receiving yards. Our season depends on Stetson Bennett being able to perform at a high level. UK with an NFL OC and a top NFL prospect at QB won't miss a beat even without a top, maybe top SEC back. Bennett isn't big, isn't super fast, doesn't have a great arm, he is just a competitor. If he falters against UK, someone will take his spot.
 
It's not that far off from the equivalent of the Titans losing Derrick Henry.

By himself, he's just a big RB that can carry a massive workload and is constantly fighting against the narrative that "RB's don't matter."

Until you don't have him. And everyone else is expected to do 10-20% more. If C-Rod is gone, a LOT is on the shoulders of Levis.
 
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