Question is 4th and3 and you need a First down to run out the clock then what running back are you putting in?
Bad C-rod news ...potentially
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For me, I'd probably play the odds and go with the one that has the higher career average yards per carry
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That's interesting, not asking you to look it up and I am not gonna either but, I wonder how many of CRods were inside the 5 yard line?
No dog in the fight, but if there has been no arrest reports other than the DUI, then I don't think it is a legal issue. If it were a legal issue there would be a report out there someone where right? So that means it is an inside thing. Maybe he was told he would have to run so many steps that all were wanting him to run at 6 AM and he might have said nope, or it could have been a 2 game suspension and he said he came back to break records not sit out games.. Now knowing his personal goal was to become the all time rushing leader at UK, he likely wasn't too happy if he was going to miss a game or two. If he has graduated can't be grades can it? No arrest report floating around so can't be a legal issue other than a civil deal, which shouldn't affect him team wise. Just guessing CMS and staff, maybe a UK policy and it came from above, that he was going to miss 2 games and he got upset. Just a guess there, can't blame him if one of the main reasons was to be UK's all time rushing leader.
We are combining tidbits of fact with a lot of conjecture here. We know CRod has legal problems. We don't know what the implications will be. Most of this stuff is heresay and conjecture.
Mark Stoops has been at Kentucky since 2013. This is not the first time a star player has been in a pickle. Jason Hatcher, Lloyd Tubman, Jordan Jones, EJ Price. There have been injuries and illness. Nick Haynes, Drew Barker, Landon Young, Chris Oats, Keaton Upshaw, Vito Tisdale. When a player is not available, next man up.
Running back is a deep position. There isn't another running back as good as CRod, but there are a lot of good running backs. Some are better pass receivers or less mistake prone than CRod. If CRod can't play, he would be missed. But Smoke, McClain, Drennen, and Wright would be a formidable rotation. Or maybe CRod will resolve his legal issues. Either way, Stoops will still bring out the best in his team and we can hang in there.
Mark Stoops has been at Kentucky since 2013. This is not the first time a star player has been in a pickle. Jason Hatcher, Lloyd Tubman, Jordan Jones, EJ Price. There have been injuries and illness. Nick Haynes, Drew Barker, Landon Young, Chris Oats, Keaton Upshaw, Vito Tisdale. When a player is not available, next man up.
Running back is a deep position. There isn't another running back as good as CRod, but there are a lot of good running backs. Some are better pass receivers or less mistake prone than CRod. If CRod can't play, he would be missed. But Smoke, McClain, Drennen, and Wright would be a formidable rotation. Or maybe CRod will resolve his legal issues. Either way, Stoops will still bring out the best in his team and we can hang in there.
someone said it earlier and I agree. It seems a lot of shit is going on w/C rod personally. He had a good amount of fumbles and stoops even said there’s some stuff going on and they’re trying to help him. I don’t know what it is, but his health and well being are most important here.
CRod just runs hard, he fights for every foot. But today defensive coaches are teaching players to strip the ball over tackling it looks like. If he went down like most backs I don't think anyone would think he had a fumbling issue, but running like he does, taking all the hits and hands ripping at the ball he loses it sometimes.
I know he had some other personal issue last year, but he also had a hand / wrist injury which people seem to forget when talking about those fumbles. Before the injury, he was a non-fumbling machine. He's had plenty of time to heal, so I'm not going to assume he has ball security issues unless we start to see it happening
Say what?? He is not and has never been a dime a dozen back.
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I have always been impressed with how hard he runs and how he never gives up.
Yeah, there's zero chance no one would be interested if he we wanted to transfer.
I doubt CRod is interested in sitting out a year unless he has already graduated. Then, of course, he would probably be immediately eligible somewhere else.
I can name about 12 SEC schools that would take CRod in a heartbeat. Let's just pray this mess gets straightened out, whatever it is, and CRod is back by the Florida game.
If he didn't commit a felony, Stoops and UK needs to get this settled before the season starts.
If he were at UT or Bama, even a felony wouldn't keep him off the field.......or UL.
Neither. I'm punting the ball and leaving it in the hands if defense. You also didn't mention how much time is left and what field position the 4th and 3 is at. That matters.
On 3rd and 3 either back is fine. I'd probably fake the handoff and get Levis a run or pass option though to be honest.
If CRod plays, I expect him to go out in a blaze of glory. They protected him in the spring, so he should be healthy. He has one of the best running back coaches in the country in John Settle.
But if CRod can't play, Smoke, McClain, Drennen, and Wright still have one of the best running back coaches in the country. Either way, it is a talented group.
I hope for the best for our team. We also want the best for CRod. Until Stoops makes an announcement about his status, we can speculate but it will not do any good.
Wright gonna average 6 plus yards per carry like CRod has the last two seasons...?
But some of us don't want to just hang in there, we want to win the East, and we don't have a lot of time left, PLUS I doubt if we will do well in the new era------where buying players is legal, not covered up. And some programs were very adept at covering it up, lots of practices.
But don't worry, we will keep our squeaky-clean image. Which is probably what will happen here.
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Hard to see what is going on when a RB is surrounded by big 300 pound DL. You can't even see the ball, amazing to me that they don't lose the ball more often.
Nah, we don't need him, it isn't like we are Bama and only have three five stars left to choose from.
And what happened to Tubman anyway, didn't a grand jury fail to indict him? Reminds me of the verdicts in the military, everyone is innocent until proven guilty-----now bring the guilty SOB in.
I bet you could gain three yards in the SEC with the D expecting it, if you had to. And Levis is too valuable for that, hopefully he will lead us to the promised land this year. Maybe a scramble when necessary, but a regular run, no I prefer not to take the risk. And he doesn't know when to go down, admirable but dangerous..
Wondered this too. Might be in class now trying to maintain eligibility.
Although I'd be surprised. He returned solely to get his degree and fulfill a promise he made to his family. Can't imagine someone like that would have academic issues but....stranger things have happened.
Why would KSR say the situation could be 4, 5 games, or the entire season if it were academic eligibility issue. Either you are eligible or your not, you ain't getting popped 5 games for a D in chemistry.
If it were another legal issue remember - the 6 unjustly accused players last yr were held out of practices even though the accusations were not public. and the arrests only happened and the story came our right before the season started.
Situation sucks. Kid came back likely because the fumbling issues made him updraftable. Now, whatever "this" is will make his draft prospects poor even if he plays and holds tight to the ball.
If it were another legal issue remember - the 6 unjustly accused players last yr were held out of practices even though the accusations were not public. and the arrests only happened and the story came our right before the season started.
Situation sucks. Kid came back likely because the fumbling issues made him updraftable. Now, whatever "this" is will make his draft prospects poor even if he plays and holds tight to the ball.
It wouldn't seem like academics were the issue.
People may forget about the injury, but I don't care why he fumbles. He just can't fumble.
It's hilarious that people are already taking the ball out of UK's all time leading rusher's hands. Not you UKW, but the fact that this thread is questioning Benny is hysterical. How long have you people watched UK football? I'm new to this and the basketball blog, but people seem to think everyone has to be an all American and we have to win every game or they are not fans.
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Had five minutes to look it up. Per their ESPN profiles...
Snell: 2 fumbles in 2018 but 0 of them lost; 2 fumbles and both of them lost in 2017; and in 2016 2 fumbles and both of them lost. So, in three seasons of data he had 6 total fumbles and 4 of them were lost.
CRod: 6 fumbles in 2021 and 3 of them lost; 0 fumbles in 2020; 2 fumbles in 2019 and 1 of them lost; and in 2018 0 fumbles but only 2 attempts all season so I would throw that out. So, in three seasons of data he had 8 fumbles and 4 of them were lost.
Not a big difference btwn them. CRod fumbled a lot last year which I think paints a stronger recency bias.
jauk11 replied:
Little was the best RB we had for a while. Against USC I remember him fumbling on three straight possessions. On the first down of each possession. Losing possession all three fumbles. It cost us a big game.
Did he lose his job?
Something funny going on with this, if he did something wrong why no word of it until now? And if he is suspended then Stoops wwill be forced to say, yeah he deserved it. That is the way to lose a good coach, I will bet that never happens to Bama's coach if he doesn't agree.
Had five minutes to look it up. Per their ESPN profiles...
Snell: 2 fumbles in 2018 but 0 of them lost; 2 fumbles and both of them lost in 2017; and in 2016 2 fumbles and both of them lost. So, in three seasons of data he had 6 total fumbles and 4 of them were lost.
CRod: 6 fumbles in 2021 and 3 of them lost; 0 fumbles in 2020; 2 fumbles in 2019 and 1 of them lost; and in 2018 0 fumbles but only 2 attempts all season so I would throw that out. So, in three seasons of data he had 8 fumbles and 4 of them were lost.
Not a big difference btwn them. CRod fumbled a lot last year which I think paints a stronger recency bias.
jauk11 replied:
Little was the best RB we had for a while. Against USC I remember him fumbling on three straight possessions. On the first down of each possession. Losing possession all three fumbles. It cost us a big game.
Did he lose his job?
Something funny going on with this, if he did something wrong why no word of it until now? And if he is suspended then Stoops wwill be forced to say, yeah he deserved it. That is the way to lose a good coach, I will bet that never happens to Bama's coach if he doesn't agree.
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Yes, and probably less (guilt)than he did, if possible. Doubt if it is possible though., The Grand Jury didn't indict him.
