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Austin Kendall Confirms UK leads

If he has informed the staff he is looking elsewhere I'm glad he did so this early in the process. And it appears we quickly moved on to secure our great QB signee in the '16 class.
 
We still lead for Kendall after his OU visit.

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Originally posted by CatsFanGG24:

We still lead for Kendall after his OU visit.

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Probably accurate and this is a potential game changer in the sense UK is going to offer other guys and not be held hostage to one guy trying to figure out what he's going to do. More than any other position, it's important to lock up a QB as early as possible. I still think UK is in the lead for Kendall but the longer it goes past spring practice the less confident I'll be we get him.
 
Originally posted by KapitalCat:

Originally posted by CatsFanGG24:

We still lead for Kendall after his OU visit.

This may be the
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or get off the pot move.
Probably accurate and this is a potential game changer in the sense UK is going to offer other guys and not be held hostage to one guy trying to figure out what he's going to do. More than any other position, it's important to lock up a QB as early as possible. I still think UK is in the lead for Kendall but the longer it goes past spring practice the less confident I'll be we get him.
UK has an advantage with AK over everyone else, his brother is at UK and on the team as a walkon. Their disadvantage is the offense isn't what he is looking for, or wasn't a year ago I don't know now, and that is causing the hesitation with him. If UK is all in with him for the qb in this class, then seal it with giving his brother a scholarship. It goes on everywhere. He is mobile enough to play in a spread like UK wants to run, but not Auburn. Would allow mom and dad to visit both boys at the same time not to mention whatever out of state tuition is at UK, and down the road it would allow his brother to say he was a scholarshipped SEC football player. UGA has closed more than one recruitment like this over the years. Heck we have a 2nd string long snapper on scholarship right now.
 
Grumpy, I asked this question to you on another thread, and am asking it again. How would giving Kendall's brother a scholarship seal his recruitment for Kentucky? His brother is already here. So I don't follow your reasoning. Do you mean to say that giving his brother a scholarship would make him beholden to Kentucky? I don't see it.
 
I don't know if beholden would be the right word, I would think incentive would be a better one. Maybe they aren't close, but I bet mom and dad would love for them to be at the same school, wouldn't you think? The kid who has been the backup snapper for a couple of years at UGA has a younger brother who is going to be a 4 year starter on the OL. We flipped a kid from Bama last year who had a brother in JUCO who hadn't played football in 2 years, but we offered, he accepted and brother flipped. Now there was rumors of it going to happen anyway but he hadn't yet. Another committed to us, but flirting with other schools had a sister who played JUCO basketball, we offered a BB scholarship, she accepted and brother signed with us, a 5* kid at that. So, I could be wrong by saying it seals the deal, but from the experience we have had with signing siblings, we get both siblings. In everyone of those cases the other was already at UGA before papers were signed. Recruiting is cutthroat, you have to use every advantage you have. If say, OU offered the older brother and he accepted and transferred, you think it wouldn't have an effect on AK's recruitment?
 
Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:

If UK is all in with him for the qb in this class, then seal it with giving his brother a scholarship. It goes on everywhere.
I'm pretty sure preferred walk-ons can't be granted a scholarship until they have been here two years. Kendall's brother is just a freshmen.
 
A recruited walk-on has to be "in the program" for two years before you can put him on scholarship without having an unused "initial counter" in the year he enrolled. Wouldn't he be in him third year by the time Austin enrolls?

Have no idea if we used all of the 25 initial counters in the year he enrolled but, suspect, we did not. If we did no use all 25, we could still put him on scholarship. He would also count against the 85 limit in either case.
 
Do that and its egg in the face for the rest of the season if he goes elsewhere.
 
Even a CP guy says he's hauling ass elsewhere.
This post was edited on 4/3 6:31 PM by mrschwump
 
Surely AK is smart enough to know AU is lying to him about changing their offense for him. Gus has run the same offense when he was coaching HS football in Arkansas, tried to run it at Arkansas which led to the downfall of him and Nutt when Nutt tried to change him. Run it with Cam and at the school he was at prior to returning to AU. I think once he gets home and thinks it over he will realize that.

As for as OU goes, I said earlier its crucial for UK to show their QB isn't going to run the ball as much as Towles did last year. Regardless of where he commits he isn't official until he enrolls or signs the LOI. But surprising he has OU that high so quickly.
 
Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
Surely AK is smart enough to know AU is lying to him about changing their offense for him. Gus has run the same offense when he was coaching HS football in Arkansas, tried to run it at Arkansas which led to the downfall of him and Nutt when Nutt tried to change him. Run it with Cam and at the school he was at prior to returning to AU. I think once he gets home and thinks it over he will realize that.

As for as OU goes, I said earlier its crucial for UK to show their QB isn't going to run the ball as much as Towles did last year. Regardless of where he commits he isn't official until he enrolls or signs the LOI. But surprising he has OU that high so quickly.
especially since he said we still lead after the ou visit. if riley is moderately successful, he's gone in 2 years for a head coaching job. i hope he's not going there for lincoln!
 
I didn't realize Georgia did this so often, but I agree that Kendall is worth two scholarships. And I wouldn't be that surprised to see OU offer his brother. Also, unless UK just offered his brother with this in mind what isn't there some chance his brother could earn a scholarship, is he a preferred walkon or just a walkon? I remember a lot of discussion on here questioning giving Christian Johnson a scholarship to get Micah and I think he started on the OL for several years
 
We have had quite a few combinations over the last few years, 3 that I can think of right off the top of my head. 1 is a 4 year starter on the OL, one was the first LB taken when he came out his Jr. year and the other will be entering school in June. It may not have been the deal sealer, but it sure didn't hurt our chances. I didn't anything about the rule preventing perferred walkons getting scholarships until the 3rd year but nothing the NCAA does surprises me.

If AK does end up at OU I would think it would make for some tense times at the Stoops family get togethers. I know recruiting is cutthroat, but CMS has been recruiting AK long and hard and Bob comes in from out of no where and trying to steal him away. Would think some things would be off limits.

That RB who signed with Bama moved up another spot today, Bo Scarborough tore his ACL today at Bama's practice and out for the year. Bama has lost 4 RB, 3 since fall semester for various reasons, a pair of transfers, a dismisal and an injury. Ironic he is higher on Bama's depth chart than he likely would be on UK's right now. With Drake possibly moving to WR he is running at number 2 now.
 
Not sure what RB you are talking about but I think Scarborough would have definitely been ahead of him, also a five star, much bigger RB, (which Saban seems to prefer) and with a spring practice ahead of him. If he is the #2 RB it seems like it will be by default, it will be interesting to see if he can handle it. I think Boom will probably have a better year.
 
Originally posted by hmt5000:


especially since he said we still lead after the ou visit. if riley is moderately successful, he's gone in 2 years for a head coaching job. i hope he's not going there for lincoln!

Re Riley and a HC job, the same could be said about Dawson. If UK can win games and the O puts up good numbers Dawson has a HC job in 2-3 years. Just the way this game works.
 
Originally posted by Poetax:
Do that and its egg in the face for the rest of the season if he goes elsewhere.
Agree. I have never understood the logic. Kendall's brother is already at Kentucky. If playing with his brother is important to him, Kendall can do that by signing with Kentucky, whether or not his brother is on scholarship. But if the brother is put on scholarship and then Kendall goes elsewhere, Stoops looks gullible and there is 1 less scholarship. Apparently, playing with the brother isn't much of a draw since Kendall is close to committing to Oklahoma or Auburn now. And if anyone thinks Gus is out of the race for Kendall, then they haven't been watching SEC recruiting long.
This post was edited on 4/4 10:39 AM by Blue Decade
 
Originally posted by mrschwump:
Originally posted by hmt5000:


especially since he said we still lead after the ou visit. if riley is moderately successful, he's gone in 2 years for a head coaching job. i hope he's not going there for lincoln!

Re Riley and a HC job, the same could be said about Dawson. If UK can win games and the O puts up good numbers Dawson has a HC job in 2-3 years. Just the way this game works.
agreed but we were in it with him with brown and dawson so he seemed to like the school and stoops whole staff and the commitment to the air raid. i think we can agree that the stoops family is gonna have a weird family reunion after this though... thats like 5 guys bobs gone after that we were in on.
 
Originally posted by Poetax:
Do that and its egg in the face for the rest of the season if he goes elsewhere.
Sure there is that risk, but it isn't like signing a HS kid, he is already at UK and it wouldn't be like a HS kid signing his papers pubically. I guess you have to weigh the pros and cons, is it worth signing what is potentially a program changing qb against the con of having a kid on scholarship who might never contribute. There is probably 15-20 of those today. Just my opinion, I would want the staff to play every card they could to sign him. But I can see your side of it too.
 
Originally posted by jauk11:

Not sure what RB you are talking about but I think Scarborough would have definitely been ahead of him, also a five star, much bigger RB, (which Saban seems to prefer) and with a spring practice ahead of him. If he is the #2 RB it seems like it will be by default, it will be interesting to see if he can handle it. I think Boom will probably have a better year.
Yes its by default, since Jan 1 Bama has lost Jones to dismisal, Tenpenny to transfer and Scarbourgh to injury while Drake is coming off a pretty bad broken leg and is getting a look at WR. What looked like tremendous depth is now pretty thin. You are right about Saban liking the big backs, he now has 1 of those on the roster in Henry, Drake coming off that bad break and the frosh RB as scholarship backs.
 
Any recruit who truly believes Gus will be changing to a pro style offense is one who is very foolish and gullible. The kids parents and HS coach ought to tell him he is being snowed.

Definitely sounds like UK has gone from leader to 3rd place, and falling. Maybe we can yet get him back on campus before he decides and make up ground.
 
Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:

As for as OU goes, I said earlier its crucial for UK to show their QB isn't going to run the ball as much as Towles did last year. Regardless of where he commits he isn't official until he enrolls or signs the LOI. But surprising he has OU that high so quickly.
Totally agree with this part. Part of the reason for our struggles in recruiting QBs right now is that our mantra that we air it out has been hot air so far. If we want to get good QBs we need to show that we can develop one. 3rd and long your goto play can't be a QB draw. Not if you want to recruit the best QBs.
 
Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
Originally posted by Poetax:
Do that and its egg in the face for the rest of the season if he goes elsewhere.
Sure there is that risk, but it isn't like signing a HS kid, he is already at UK and it wouldn't be like a HS kid signing his papers pubically. I guess you have to weigh the pros and cons, is it worth signing what is potentially a program changing qb against the con of having a kid on scholarship who might never contribute. There is probably 15-20 of those today. Just my opinion, I would want the staff to play every card they could to sign him. But I can see your side of it too.
Grump, I get your angle and if we were GA, I would agree but until we win on the field decisions like that going wrong could kill us.
 
Originally posted by Poetax:

Originally posted by Grumpyolddawg:
Originally posted by Poetax:
Do that and its egg in the face for the rest of the season if he goes elsewhere.
Sure there is that risk, but it isn't like signing a HS kid, he is already at UK and it wouldn't be like a HS kid signing his papers pubically. I guess you have to weigh the pros and cons, is it worth signing what is potentially a program changing qb against the con of having a kid on scholarship who might never contribute. There is probably 15-20 of those today. Just my opinion, I would want the staff to play every card they could to sign him. But I can see your side of it too.
Grump, I get your angle and if we were GA, I would agree but until we win on the field decisions like that going wrong could kill us.
Maybe so Poet, but UK hasn't have a lot of recent success on the field, offering AK a scholarship that everyone else is doing isn't all in, its just calling. So what if the brother never steps foot on the field, only about 65 guys ever do anyway and the only ones who would whine are the fans who come in 2nd, no one else will ever even know. I just never looked at it as egg in the face if he went elsewhere, I saw it as the staff not doing everything they could to get a kid, within the rules if they didn't. Only a few places have kids falling over themselves to commit, UGA and UK aren't in that group. UK basketball is, Bama football is and they are the only programs I can think of quickly.
 
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