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Anyone Listening to KSR Right Now? Hagans and Cal Fight?
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I'd like to have seen hagans do that crap playing for bobby knight.
There’s an ignore button that does it for you. But if saying point shaving should get a ban.... let’s end free speech and murder me for it like North Korea right?
Exactly. You're absolutely correct. In all seriousness, I worry for our future, as a people, in general. I'm almost 80, I've seen so many changes in this country in my lifetime. It's not getting better.
I don’t think it’s preposterous. I’m sure it happens every season. Not specifically on our team or even at the highest levels of D1, but you can’t outright dismiss the possibility.
I've noticed this for almost 3 weeks now. It's almost like everytime Hagans messes up, Cal takes his frustration out on Maxey. Cal knows Hagans is mentally soft and has tiptoed around him likely bc he was concerned with Hagans shutting down and becoming a headcase this close to the tournament.
Should have been said at the beginning of the hate the point guard thread
I think it is very poor taste. You can have your opinion, I can have mine.
He's a competitor! Any starter would be expected to be upset. He shouldn't mouth off to Coach, but I WANT him to be pissed at himself and the situation. I'd be more upset if he just calmly stood and walked to the scorer's table.
Cassius Winston and Izzo have gotten into on a few occasions this year, most recently in their win last night.
It's called competitiveness. Hagans gives a damn.
It's called competitiveness. Hagans gives a damn.
Telling your coach you’ll sit on the bench isn’t competitive. Izzo and Winston were arguing over not calling timeout and play calls. Ashton was pouting over being on the bench. Can’t compare those two things.
I noticed once that Justice told Nick to go check in. Cal turned to him and seemed to ask why he was sending Nick in. Justice replied "That's his 2nd foul" talking about a foul that was just called on either Nate or EJ. Cal hollered for Nick to come back and then looked like he was blasting Justice for sending Nick back in.
Sit him and let him mull it over on the bench. Let Maxey and Quickley share duties running the team.
99 problems and a bitch is every one of them
Cal bragged Hagans up as the best PG in the Country all season until the last month or so. I remember posting back then that I wished Cal wouldn't do that because it puts a lot of pressure on Hagans to play at a high level.
Then when he had a bad game or two, you could tell the pressure was there. TO's, missing shot after shot and just forcing too much.
During that spell of Hagans playing bad, Quickley stepped it up (which adds more pressure when it shouldn't at all) and now is getting all the accolades. I don't think AH is mature enough to handle that after all Cal talked him up most of the season.
Cal needs to give him a down to earth reality check. If his attitude doesn't change, I would not play him. Even if it means an early exit.
Then when he had a bad game or two, you could tell the pressure was there. TO's, missing shot after shot and just forcing too much.
During that spell of Hagans playing bad, Quickley stepped it up (which adds more pressure when it shouldn't at all) and now is getting all the accolades. I don't think AH is mature enough to handle that after all Cal talked him up most of the season.
Cal needs to give him a down to earth reality check. If his attitude doesn't change, I would not play him. Even if it means an early exit.
"Baby Boomers,' are defined as being anyone born between 1946 and 1964. Millennial are defined as being born between 1981 and 1996.
So, clearly there were baby boomers who have millennial children.
Regardless, generation shaming is silly, especially considering that these generations are 20 some odd years long and someone born in the 40s will have an entirely different life experience than someone growing up in the 60s. Hell, I have a brother who is 7 years my junior and his life experience growing up was entirely different than mine.
Glad you posted this. Last night had a "let them figure it out" feel. For many reasons.. Cal made few adjustments.. he didnt seem to care about the officiating or bad calls... and he was kind of joshing it up with Rick Barnes, where normally, a loss like this would have him furious.
The whole team was off. Weird night for sure.. and while we lost seeding, there wasnt much to "gain" as a team, by winning this game. They needed a bit of a wakeup call.
Agreed 100 percent. You dont argue with the coach and refuse to go into a game, you dont argue with the strength coach! He's just pissy because his draft stock is slipping by each game!
My point is that Maxey isn't as good as Knight, we don't have a lamb or Jones on the team. And you are going to have to tell me where you see a Darius Miller at. So my point is Maxey isn't quite as good, and the rest of the team is certainly behind the team Knight lead to the Final Four.
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Refusing to go in is being competitive? Lol ok...
Lol, what?? Let me get this straight...you’d be upset if he just went in the game all normal like when his coached asked...vs throwing a tantrum like he did? The latter is what shows you “competitiveness” and what you want? Are you under the age of 25 by chance?
I agree. I think he's going to take Ashton off the ball on offense, which would benefit the team at this point, and benefit Ashton. Let him be a facilitator off the ball and it will create more scoring opportunities for him. His best offense lately has been catch and shoot in the corner and driving off the catch. He hasn't been able to get much going driving from up top. He over penetrates or gets stripped. Just trying to do too much.
Regardless, we aren't making any run if he doesn't get back into a positive head space. We need him on the court.
How exactly does moving Hagans off the ball help the offense at all? If anything it will get worse. Playing off the ball means you’ll need to catch and shoot more. Hagans is a terrible shooter. The one thing he had been doing well is facilitating for others. Take that away and now you’ve just put a worse shooter on the wing but hope it will somehow lead to more scoring? Math doesn’t add up.
If you aren’t jumping at the chance to go in the game and help the TEAM then I dont want YOU on the TEAM. End of story.
I don’t care how bad a player is playing if he is truly giving his all and listening to coach. Ashton crossed the line. I’d say you either go in the game without question or you pack your bags.
I don’t care how bad a player is playing if he is truly giving his all and listening to coach. Ashton crossed the line. I’d say you either go in the game without question or you pack your bags.
I've seen this mentioned a few times about Hagans stealing the ball from team mate. Does anyone have video of it or know exactly when it occurred so I could watch a replay to find it?
Exactly. We live and die with Hagans running the point. You dance with the one you brought to the Dance.
Anyone else that thinks differently is kidding themselves.
It may relieve some of the pressure Hagans feels to perform. He can still penetrate and dish. Just not have to feel like he has to each possession. Maxey is much more steady with the ball. Hagans is a disruptor defensively. We need him. It’s not ideal but it’s what you have when you have a coach who refuses to recruit a competitive bench because he promises to showcase specific kids for the NBA. I’m for all these kids. They’re talented good kids. If Cal would stop with the stubbornness and recruit a good bench, hit the opponent with waves of good players, change up defenses randomly, keep the other coach guessing, he could make things much easier for himself. He’s the best recruiter of all time. He could easily do that. But he’d rather coach like Joe B Hall circa 1983.
Especially at the time of the game. This evidently happened when UK was up 17. If Ashton's team is up 17 and Ashton is pouting that he was taken out for committing his 3rd foul early in the 2nd half, that reveals a lot about his character.
You don’t think Quickley is better than a freshman Doron Lamb?
IQ, Richards, EJ, Hagans, Juzang, Brooks, and Sestina are a fine supporting cast to surround Maxey with, if he was the scoring PG ala Brandon Knight.
