Anyone Listening to KSR Right Now? Hagans and Cal Fight?

[kyjeff1]

The pick Nick or Quick campaign has made him jealous. He only cares about himself.

Oh wow, look who is trashing players. Are you serious? You're the same guy that has been running around calling people out for their negativity, trashing Cal and trashing players, but here you are trashing Hagans.
Pot meet kettle.

Nice work Cardsstink.

 

[Baller Cal]

Oh wow, look who is trashing players. Are you serious? You're the sane guy that has been running around calling people out for their negativity, trashing Cal and trashing players, but here you are trashing Hagans.
Pot meet kettle.

Nice work Cardsstink.

What's a "Cardstink" ? Is this similar to you calling me kybassfan, saying I was "caught dead to rights" as bassfan, harassing me, and trying to bully only to be dead wrong and have that blow up in your face?

Embarrassing for you that you call that the bashing of players. I know you have no shame, but this is weak even for you. How pathetic, the known lunatics are using last nights loss to go after the sane fans. Have a fun day. Losses like this send adrenaline through your sick little veins. I'll sit back, watch and laugh at you like I do daily. Poor Jeff, always on the edge and completely out of control, ALWAYS needing to run around with his head cut off saying "look how smart I am. Look at me, look at meeeeee".

 

[Padsfs07]

Yep, the boomers screwed up with the Gen Xers, and it snowballed to the millennials

Isn't that like every person in America? LOL

 

[UK_27]

I blame his GF. He stopped posting anything about her for the longest tine and just recently started posting with her again. Women, SMH

 

[Wildcat Sheli]

@Jeff Drummond so the time AH didn’t want back in the game: was that during the first half, or second half? Thanks!

 

[kyjeff1]

Hagans is soft. And not very good at basketball.

I disagree. I think he can be great. He's an elite defender, but he simply needs to get in the gym and shoot 500 balls a day, maybe a thousand. His shot is broken, if he fixes that, the game will come much easier to him

 

[TheBlueCat]

Won't go very far in the tourney if our point guard has no leadership qualities.

 

[Padsfs07]

Yup. Richards got a tough board and Hagans tried to knock it out of his hands when Richards didn't immediately pass him the ball. Hagans was then seen telling Richards "throw me the ball" about 5 times during a TO.

That's not what really happened during the play at all, but okay. Hagans was also SO MAD at Richards that he set him up for an easy dunk on the very next play.

 

[billoliver40]

No better tha Ashton was playing gotta wonder why Cal put him back in anyway.

 

[ULisnotmyman]

I disagree. I think he can be great. He's an elite defender, but he simply needs to get in the gym and shoot 500 balls a day, maybe a thousand. His shot is broken, if he fixes that, the game will come much easier to him

I wouldn’t exactly call that simple to do. Who knows if it can ever be fixed. And until then, he’s a liability when on the floor. Especially when he turns the ball over at an alarming rate and shoots 30% on LAYUPS. Also, he seems to be a bit of a head case who has a bad attitude as well. All he does well is get an occasional steal.

 

[SparksCat]

Need to lower our expectations of any tournament run. Quickley needs to be the leader of the team on the court.

Hagans is frustrated and thinks he’s more than we what is really is. This team has to play together or they have no shot of putting a nice run together in the tournament

 

[sluggercatfan]

Entitlement. That’s today’s youth in a nutshell.

This has been going for the better part of 10 years with the twins, etc. You create a culture where you come play at UK and everything is fast tracked to get to the nba asap and kids can't relax and just enjoy the moment and living the life of a UK player. Some can deal with it, some can't. Watched Brooks last night and he looks dejected as well.

 

[kyjeff1]

WTH!!! Worst time of the season for something like this. Cal needs to put this fire out NOW!!!

Never know, it might be the best time for this to happen. Cal is very good at handling these types of situations.
I'd rather it happen now and not after the NCAAT started.

 

[kyjeff1]

What's a "Cardstink" ? Is this similar to you calling me kybassfan, saying I was "caught dead to rights" as bassfan only to have that blow up in your face, get banned and have to pout?

Embarrassing for you that you call that the bashing of players. I know you have no shame, but this is weak even for you. How pathetic, the known lunatics are using last nights loss to go after the sane fans. Have a fun day. Losses like this send adrenaline through your sick little veins. I'll sit back, watch and laugh at you like I do daily. Poor Jeff, always on the edge and completely out of control, ALWAYS needing to run around with his head cut off saying "look how smart I am. Look at me, look at meeeeee".

You literally said that Hagans only cares about himself. You said it, it's quoted and now you're trying to act like you didn't trash the kid. You're pathetically wrong.

 

[DanCat17]

So does anyone know when the Cal and Hagans argument took place? The cameras showed Hagans towards the end of the first half on the bench moping with his warm up on. My initial reaction was Cal is resting him since we had a decent lead because of the injury he had a few games ago. Seems like I was wrong.

I don't know what we do from here. I'm all for sitting Hagans, putting Maxey at the point, Juzang at the 3, and just seeing what happens. Ashton's display last night was sickening, and after seeing the things between him and Cal and Nick after the game, I wouldn't dare put him back in the game.

I think it's very obvious, as some have pointed out, that Hagans bad play seemed to emerge after Quick started playing well. Hagans seems adamant on getting his the entire game. That isn't a quality you want to see in a point guard, or even a basketball player for the matter.

I've defended Ashton all year, especially when people have pushed for Maxey at the point. I'm done with that. Cal has actually been playing Maxey at PG the last couple games and he has done well.

 

[willievic]

It's amazing how so many posters are blaming an 18 or 19 year old kid for all the problems of the game last night. I agree, he had a bad game, but let's look at what could have taken care of that problem. If you as a parent have a kid who won't listen to you, and is misbehaving, then you punish him. It can be, grounding him, taking his phone, etc. You don't stand and argue with him. If Hagans was not doing what Coach Cal wanted him to do, and he was capable of doing what Cal wanted him to do, then he should have been on the bench. No arguing with him. If you as a coach, is arguing with your player during the game, then you and your team are losing, and this was very evident last night. Yes, I've coached, soccer six years when I lived in Seattle, and 2 years in high school in Louisville, while I was flying with NWA. I never argued with a player, because I knew I would lose, and the team would suffer. We saw it happen last night, and it cost us the game.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[Mash 2.4]

When you refuse to recruit a bench this is what you get. Cal made his bed.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

This is because Cal benched Hagans last game.............. even though we won.. didnt bench him tonight and we lost.

So if he's doing this and playing half assed....... is he point shaving?

I wish the mods would shave you off this board.

 

[HagginHall1999]

I wish the mods would shave you off this board.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Mozes-Prince22]

Caller saying Ashton refused to go back into the game when Cal called him up and they were going back and forth for 3 minutes arguing. Hagans told Cal "why am I going in? For you to take me out?"

“But but but he’s playing banged up....”

Anybody who was using that as an excuse can GTHO with that crap. He’s not good. He’s decent. It won’t hurt my feelings if he takes the Briscoe route and gets the hell out of dodge at the end of the year.

If we don’t make it past the Sweet 16, he will be the reason. Mark my words. And if we make it past the SS, he won’t be the reason. It’ll be because Cal decides to bite the bullet and take the ball out of his hands in crunch time.

 

[UK-chulo]

It's amazing how so many posters are blaming an 18 or 19 year old kid for all the problems of the game last night. I agree, he had a bad game, but let's look at what could have taken care of that problem. If you as a parent have a kid who won't listen to you, and is misbehaving, then you punish him. It can be, grounding him, taking his phone, etc. You don't stand and argue with him. If Hagans was not doing what Coach Cal wanted him to do, and he was capable of doing what Cal wanted him to do, then he should have been on the bench. No arguing with him. If you as a coach, is arguing with your player during the game, then you and your team are losing, and this was very evident last night. Yes, I've coached, soccer six years when I lived in Seattle, and 2 years in high school in Louisville, while I was flying with NWA. I never argued with a player, because I knew I would lose, and the team would suffer. We saw it happen last night, and it cost us the game.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

He’s 20 3/4.

 

[cbrwalt]

Lets see how this plays out. This seems to be coming to a head, his play and attitude last night can not be ignored. Everyone saw it was an issue.

So this could be a Come to Jesus moment for him , this may spur him to get his crap together and start playing for his brothers and not for himself. Unfortunately it could also spiral downward from here. But either path is possible.

Hopefully this will be a situation that causes Hagans to mature and the team to come together and in the great words of Bledsoe "get sh!t right"

But lets see how this plays out, before we start jumping off cliffs.

 

[Cats192]

Maybe it's one bad night. Hagans is struggling and probably frustrated. Sounds like Cal was off. Maybe Cal threw Hagans over the edge.

But man, sure feels like the wheels just came off the whole damn thing.

 

[DexterPotts]

I will guaran’damn’tee you there’s a girl friend issue at the root of this. Young 20ish girls are experts at the ‘pay attention to me’ & creating
turmoil in a young mans life of SHES not the total focus of his attention.

 

[know1]

Hard to be a great point guard with no offensive scheme.

 

[Mozes-Prince22]

Hard to be a great point guard with no offensive scheme.

It’s hard to be a great point guard when you possess no great PG skills or attributes.

 

[ManitouDan]

I’ve heard it all now . He didn’t play well because of puswah. Lol

 

[Girthang]

Wait, what? Boomers didn’t raise this generation. Our kids raised them.

They don't have ANY CLUE who raised them even... LOL. Dam millenials and beyond don't know their own family history or any other history. Just live on origin stories from games and comic books

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

I wish the mods would shave you off this board.

You could of said you don’t think so instead of being a jack ass. Stop being a triggered little girl

 

[Big BlueBeard]

I’ve heard it all now . He didn’t play well because of puswah. Lol

Haha!! Had to laugh at this, Dan.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I will guaran’damn’tee you there’s a girl friend issue at the root of this. Young 20ish girls are experts at the ‘pay attention to me’ & creating
turmoil in a young mans life of SHES not the total focus of his attention.

Women are the root of like 98% of all problems.

 

[rick64]

Guess what they're starting the show with today?!

 

[ScrooDook92]

It’s only going to get worse in the future with high profile prima donnas who have always been around people who worship the ground they walk on and feel like the world should be served up to them on a silver platter. The youth in this country is changing year by year. They’re not the same now as the 2010 class. Softer and more entitled. I’m ready to start recruiting some bulldog type guys that have been looked over and come in with a chip on their shoulder ready to prove they belong instead of always going after the stars by their name and their “NBA potential”. Can you imagine what the dynamics of the youths personality will be like in 2030? Hell, we might even have a transgender on the team just to keep up with political correctness (que Dywane Wade’s he/she). Even today, it’s more about being an Instagram model/ social media star who happens to play basketball. It was hard to win with a young team when Cal first started. It’s going to be damn near impossible in the next 10 years.

Not cool, dude.

 

[Girthang]

Yep, the boomers screwed up with the Gen Xers, and it snowballed to the millennials

Smh. Illustrating the point fully by not taking responsibility for their own decisions. Always someone else's fault.

I got news for everyone... if you make bad decisions it's your fault. Your parents won't get a ticket if you run a stop sign, because you are the one being the ***hole. They didn't teach you that.

 

[Baller Cal]

So does anyone know when the Cal and Hagans argument took place? The cameras showed Hagans towards the end of the first half on the bench moping with his warm up on. My initial reaction was Cal is resting him since we had a decent lead because of the injury he had a few games ago. Seems like I was wrong.

I don't know what we do from here. I'm all for sitting Hagans, putting Maxey at the point, Juzang at the 3, and just seeing what happens. Ashton's display last night was sickening, and after seeing the things between him and Cal and Nick after the game, I wouldn't dare put him back in the game.

I think it's very obvious, as some have pointed out, that Hagans bad play seemed to emerge after Quick started playing well. Hagans seems adamant on getting his the entire game. That isn't a quality you want to see in a point guard, or even a basketball player for the matter.

I've defended Ashton all year, especially when people have pushed for Maxey at the point. I'm done with that. Cal has actually been playing Maxey at PG the last couple games and he has done well.

I think Maxey with the ball in his hands more is exactly what’s bothering Hagans, but who knows. See ya Saturday. Waste of time to pound the keyboard over stuff you have no control over.

 

[Girthang]

Best comment on here-

Better now than 2 weeks from now or later...

 

[JG4Three]

Wow. I’ve defended Hagans on here tonight. Not his play but the fact that I would welcome him back next year. But if (IF) this is true, I wouldn’t mind to see him leave and I’d go after a high level grad transfer guard for next year. No excuse for that type of entitlement and insubordination.

You wanted Hagans to come back? Beatty called it after the Evansville game. Hagans is more worried about going to and getting kicked out of clubs than developing a jump shot.

 

[ScrooDook92]

Well, this loss was eerily similar to the Georgia home loss debacle on Senior Night under BCG in 2009 and we all know that team had serious issues and turmoil. Florida is going to kick our ass Saturday. Hearing this news and going into the SEC Tournament reeling is really bad and it just sucks. If this is true (and I don't doubt that it is), I don't know what the hell should be done about it or if there's anything that can be done about it right now. Ashton Hagans needs to look at himself in the mirror and man the **** up. I'll be shocked if he's a Wildcat next season.

There is no way on Earth Hagans is with the team next year. Quickley and Juzang will be back, Maxey could be. Hagans is a penetrating PG who can't facilitate. That won't work on a team with a lot of talent.

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

It's amazing how so many posters are blaming an 18 or 19 year old kid

He turns 21 in a couple months. He’s a man who should know better. Not some “kid” out there. Quit trying to soften it and make excuses for him.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Seems like it's been building. Hopefully this was the boil over moment and they can air it all out, refocus, and be right for the tournament.

We've seen Cal "let" teams play their own way to remind them of what happens when they do, and while I don't think he'd ever intentionally lose a game, I think there are times (2012 SEC Tournament vs Vandy) where he accepts that as a possibility if the guys can't pull it out, just to get a larger point across.

Obviously, there's more to last night than that, and the personal frustrations are what have to be handled first, but I think the two go hand-in-hand and that this can be a really useful wakeup call right when we need it most.

It's much better than squeaking by last night and having this meltdown happen in the first round of the tournament. Other than hating Tennessee, that game really meant nothing. We're either a two or a three, there are games left to play, and the SEC is locked up already.

If it were ever going to happen, that was the best time for it. No excuses about the refs or the road environment. Let them collapse on senior night, let them kick and scream, and then remind them of what we have to do together to win.