Anyone Here Have An Electric Car?
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If a genuine all electric car is actually, you know, MANUFACTURED, I would consider buying one.
Wake me up when/if it happens.
Wake me up when/if it happens.
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Off topic, but I love Cammisa. He did a video comparing the CT5-V Blackwing with the M5 CS and it's one of my favorite pieces of automotive journalism.
I’ve liked his stuff for years, but I think all of his videos for Hagerty, in particular, have been really well made and entertaining.
It’s probably the only YouTube channel I regularly check for new videos.
The manufacturers seem to be coming to their senses and slowing down on going all in on green. Hopefully more companies help slow down this rush to go green that will cripple this country.
GLENDALE, Ky. — Ford Motor Company is delaying production at its second battery plant in Hardin County.
This comes as the demand for electric vehicles is not as high as anticipated.
"We are also slowing down several investments including making a decision with SK on to delay the second BlueOval SK JV battery plant in Kentucky," Chief Financial Officer John Lawler said.
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GLENDALE, Ky. — Ford Motor Company is delaying production at its second battery plant in Hardin County.
This comes as the demand for electric vehicles is not as high as anticipated.
"We are also slowing down several investments including making a decision with SK on to delay the second BlueOval SK JV battery plant in Kentucky," Chief Financial Officer John Lawler said.
Ford delays production at second Kentucky battery plant; County officials won't change project timelines
"This is just a hiccup to give us time to adjust, because there's a lot of adjustments that have to go on, in this small town."
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Lets see:
More expensive to buy
More expensive to maintain
Debatable environmental advantage
Fugly looking
Sure... sign me up lol
More expensive to buy
More expensive to maintain
Debatable environmental advantage
Fugly looking
Sure... sign me up lol
On Thursday, Mercedes-Benz reported disappointing earnings and revenues. Reuters quoted the German automaker’s CFO, Harald Wilhelm, who called the EV sector a “pretty brutal space.” Reuter said some automakers are selling EVs at prices “below the level of internal combustion engine cars despite their higher production costs.”
Elon Musk warned about slowing demand for EVs after Tesla missed revenue and profit targets for the third quarter. And if Musk is warning about demand, then the EV business must really be in trouble.
Elon Musk warned about slowing demand for EVs after Tesla missed revenue and profit targets for the third quarter. And if Musk is warning about demand, then the EV business must really be in trouble.
Once the high-margin SUV plants went idle, things progressed pretty fast. Funny how these things happen to get both parties back to the negotiating table.
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GM reaches tentative deal with UAW to end autoworkers strike, joining Big Three rivals Ford and Stellantis
GM has reportedly reached a tentative deal with the United Auto Workers (UAW), joining its rivals Ford and Stellantis in coming one step closer to putting an acrimonious labor dispute that has shut down key operations for over six weeks behind.
A guy who lives up the street from us bought one a couple of weeks ago. I was walking the dog when he was getting ready to leave. I asked him how he liked it. I don't know this guy at all other than speaking to him a few times, but he asked me if I wanted to drive it or at the very least go for a ride. He raved on and on about it and told me again to stop by sometime and we'd take it for a spin.
It just freaking goes man. Like you know that slight pause between when you hit the gas and your ICE makes the car move? That's instantaneous in a Tesla. Plus you really don't need to use the brakes that much because when you take your foot off the accelerator it slows down like you are braking.
The long tern winners of these new contracts are Toyota, Honda and Tesla. The union workers deserve a competitive wage but in this case they might make the employer uncompetitive and risk their long term future. Keep in mind that EVs need far fewer employees to build each unit. A lot of UAW jobs are going to disappear rather quickly.Once the high-margin SUV plants went idle, things progressed pretty fast. Funny how these things happen to get both parties back to the negotiating table.
GM reaches tentative deal with UAW to end autoworkers strike, joining Big Three rivals Ford and Stellantis
GM has reportedly reached a tentative deal with the United Auto Workers (UAW), joining its rivals Ford and Stellantis in coming one step closer to putting an acrimonious labor dispute that has shut down key operations for over six weeks behind.
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A buddy of mine who’s a true gearhead loves driving them. I’m sure it would be great to own one but they are still too expensive and impractical. Like everything else green, they have been pushed too fast with no regard for the consumer or with any thought for negative consequences.
It's like saying you want to get to the moon but don't worry about the process it takes to get there. You have to take your time taking baby steps. You don't just start figuring out how to land there before you even get to space.
It's the same for going green. You don't make everything green without figuring out if people can afford it. If the electrical network can handle it. If the energy sources can actually provide for everything being green. If we can get enough of the resources to make the batteries that run them. If we can recycle all of the toxic batteries when they go bad. If in the end, do we really see an improvement in the amount of carbon emissions?
That's a lot of ifs to rush into. This needs to happen over like 30 to 50 years and not just a decade.
No, but the mileage sucked. It would tell me I could go X miles on a charge, but it usually only went like 2/3x.
This was my brother’s car and it was a 2018 model. So I assume it’s much better now. But dude, in terms of driving it felt like I was driving a fighter jet.
I was heading out to pick up a pizza one evening. At a red light about 1/8th mile from where I was going, a Tesla was in the other lane. The light turned green and that thing came out of the hole like a Sox & Martin pro stock. By the time I was turning in to the pizza place, the Tesla was just a speck in the distance.
Yep, my 2020 model S is a ****in Jet! It took getting used to because the get off, was so intense.
Elon lies about the mileage, but the car is superior to others in every other way. You can only get quoted epa mileage if you drive it easy and stay around 65 miles an hour. I can do 300 miles at 75 or 340 at 65. I just round tripped mine from Birmingham to Lexington. Stopped for 30 minutes to charge each way.
On the Highway, the thing can go from 60-100 in a blink, so passing people is different.
Elon lies about the mileage, but the car is superior to others in every other way. You can only get quoted epa mileage if you drive it easy and stay around 65 miles an hour. I can do 300 miles at 75 or 340 at 65. I just round tripped mine from Birmingham to Lexington. Stopped for 30 minutes to charge each way.
On the Highway, the thing can go from 60-100 in a blink, so passing people is different.
I have a 2023 Model S. The mileage is not an issue - I charge to 80% every night and that is about 310 miles.
I have had a couple of issues with the rubber trim above the door falling and other minor stuff like that that Tesla will repair quickly. My gripe with the car is that it is not a well made luxury car in terms of the body and trim. The tech is awesome, though, and it is fun to drive.
My other complaint is that I paid right at 100k for the car all in in May and now you can get it for about 15k less I think, as they keep dropping prices.
I have had a couple of issues with the rubber trim above the door falling and other minor stuff like that that Tesla will repair quickly. My gripe with the car is that it is not a well made luxury car in terms of the body and trim. The tech is awesome, though, and it is fun to drive.
My other complaint is that I paid right at 100k for the car all in in May and now you can get it for about 15k less I think, as they keep dropping prices.
The trouble with many of these manufacturing jobs, workers may not be qualified to work in a semiconductor industry replacing these jobs.
Have you looked at any of the other EVs in the market (e.g., Lucid, BMW, Porsche)? I suspect build quality, fit and finish, etc. might be much better from some of the other manufacturers who are now making EVs.
Car and Driver and Jason Cammisa seemed to be pretty impressed with the Lucid Air.
A Mother And Daughter Got Trapped In A Rental Tesla After It Ran Out Of Charge
Hertz put a first-time EV driver in a Tesla that was half dead, then tried to hold her financially accountable for getting stranded on the side of the road.
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Wow! Fwiw Hertz is also the same company (Hertz Global Holdings) as Dollar, Thrifty and Firefly.A Mother And Daughter Got Trapped In A Rental Tesla After It Ran Out Of Charge
Hertz put a first-time EV driver in a Tesla that was half dead, then tried to hold her financially accountable for getting stranded on the side of the road.
They emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2021 and although I'm sure I've rented from them in the past, I recall they had OJ Simpson as their spokesman for many years.
These people are some kind of stupid to drive it to a dead battery. The car probably sent 50 warnings to find a charger, starting with 60 miles left on the gauge.A Mother And Daughter Got Trapped In A Rental Tesla After It Ran Out Of Charge
Hertz put a first-time EV driver in a Tesla that was half dead, then tried to hold her financially accountable for getting stranded on the side of the road.
Were they in an urban area or a rural area? If they were in a rural area, then I’m not sure you can blame them, especially if they have never driven an EV before.
It also looks like Hertz also didn’t provide them with a charging adapter, so I imagine they might have driven to a few charging points only to discover they couldn’t plug in their rental car.
This story seems like a Hertz problem more than anything. If you’re someone who has never driven an EV before, then there are a few things you need to be aware of to drive one successfully.
Hertz didn’t honor their reservation for a gas powered car, talked them into taking the one EV that Hertz had on the lot and then apparently sent them on their way without any heads up on how driving an EV might be different from what they’re used to.
Tesla will sue you for $50,000 if you try to resell your Cybertruck in the first year
Tesla may agree to buy the truck back at the original price minus "$0.25/mile driven" and any damages and repairs.
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One year bans on reselling new cars isn’t unprecedented. Ferrari has done that on certain models for years, though it does seem to be unusual to include that type of restriction on something like the cybertruck.
Tesla will sue you for $50,000 if you try to resell your Cybertruck in the first year
Tesla may agree to buy the truck back at the original price minus "$0.25/mile driven" and any damages and repairs.
I think it’s stupid when a manufacturer like Ferrari does that, but I can also understand the strategy to some degree. The exclusivity and hoops you have to jump through to buy a new Ferrari are part of the mystique. You can’t just walk into a dealership and buy one; Ferrari has to choose you and they make it clear who’s boss in a number of ways.
But I don’t get the point of doing this for the cybertruck. It looks ugly as sin. But I’ve been out of step with popular opinion before so I could be wrong.
I have a 2022 Model 3 and if and when I'm in the market for an EV, I will certainly look at what else is out there.
The biggest reason I bought Tesla was because of their charging network when I take it on trips. I mainly charge at home overnight.
I have been completely satisfied with mine. I've had no issues to speak of other than warranty work to replace the the tail lights because of condensation build up.
Also, I just replaced the tires on mine yesterday at almost 38K miles. I probably could have safely gone another couple of thousand miles on them, but with wet and snowy weather approaching I went ahead and had them replaced.
Another thing about cost of tires. On Tire Rack the tires were not much different in price as for any other car if any at all.
Too many people base their "hate" for EV's on politics which is ludicrous.
Well someone bought one of these monstrosities.
The exterior styling of the Cybertruck always reminds me of when Top Gear built their EV, the Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust.
To be clear, my post was not a knock on EVs. It was a comment on Tesla’s specifically in response someone else’s post about their personal experience owning a Tesla.
I’d also add that there is more to build quality than just reliability. A cheap car with lower build quality can still be a reliable vehicle. But while a lower quality car may prove reliable in that you don’t necessarily need repairs, it will still have things like lower quality materials/finishes, large or uneven panel gaps, etc. Whether or not this is an issue for someone simply comes down to their personal preferences and what they expect from a car, and I have no issues with EVs in general.
For some people, an EV makes complete sense, just as a pickup truck makes complete sense for others. It all depends on what you’re looking for from a car.
I am going to pick up a M3 this weekend.
Lease payment is really not that bad. $408 a month these days is a steal. My commute is 12 miles per day, so a lease made more sense. I may drive more than 100 miles a day a couple of days a month.
Tesla is not traditional at all when it comes to the sales preocess. They wil take trade in's, but will not apply the trade in to down payment, taxes, title or fees. They will only apply it to the price of the Tesla.
I am having to sell my current POS on my own, after the fact. No big deal...just uncommon in my experience.
We are going with the Wall Connector, which has to be installed by a Telsa certified electrician, and is supposed to provide a full charge overnight once a week. There is a supercharger within a couple miles of my house.
When we test drove the Tesla, it was just so much quieter and roomy than the Cadillac XT4 we were looking at.
And, as others have said, it just so f'ing fun to drive.
Lease payment is really not that bad. $408 a month these days is a steal. My commute is 12 miles per day, so a lease made more sense. I may drive more than 100 miles a day a couple of days a month.
Tesla is not traditional at all when it comes to the sales preocess. They wil take trade in's, but will not apply the trade in to down payment, taxes, title or fees. They will only apply it to the price of the Tesla.
I am having to sell my current POS on my own, after the fact. No big deal...just uncommon in my experience.
We are going with the Wall Connector, which has to be installed by a Telsa certified electrician, and is supposed to provide a full charge overnight once a week. There is a supercharger within a couple miles of my house.
When we test drove the Tesla, it was just so much quieter and roomy than the Cadillac XT4 we were looking at.
And, as others have said, it just so f'ing fun to drive.
