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From one sub par football conference to the newest sub par conference.Heard on relatively obscure podcast, so take it for what it’s worth.
Every AaCC team but Clemson, FSU, UNC, UVA and Duke in discussions with B12.
True or not, am I wrong for being surprised Duke isn’t on the list?
Typo. My bad, should be 2036. 13 years of no TV money.I think its later than that.
At this point, yes. But if they take all those ACC teams, no.It is better than the Acc.
The way out is if enough teams agree to leave at once.Until the ACC members figures out a way to leave and avoid the 120m buyout and loss of TV revenue for the next 12 seasons all this talk is just Saber rattling. If they had a way out 3-4 teams would be in SEC or BIG10. The bottom lin is no one outside of the ACC thinks much of them or their undefeated champion would be in the playoffs.
The way out is if enough teams agree to leave at once.
Legally yes. But as a practical matter experts say it would fall apart. I am a lawyer but that’s all over my head.I don't have enough legal knowledge, but seems like someone would still be responsible for the buyouts. But and organization can sign a contract, where the exit cost is clearly stated, and each school signs their GOR away for 15 years I believe it was, can just say we quit and it goes away? If that were true it would already be done, the dissolving of the ACC has been discussed for awhile.
I think it is going to get done this offseason.
That is my understanding as well. If a majority of schools decide to leave, that would void the GOR, but I could be wrong. I think that in the summer that was not going to happen, because most ACC schools didn't have a landing spot. If the formentioned POD cast is true, then that solves the landing spot issue. I think it is only a matter of time before the ACC disolves and it will be long before 2030. The big name brands will end up in the SEC & BIG. This gives the other ACC schools a conference where they can make as much or more revenue than they are currently making.The way out is if enough teams agree to leave at once.
I think if the Big12 guarantees a landing spot, they’ll all decide to dissolve the ACC. When Florida St went undefeated and won’t even be considered, your conference is dead in the water. Along with the small payouts, there are only two choices - die a slow long death, or bite the bullet now for however much it costs.
The Grant of Right prevents any one school from leaving the others behind. FSU can't just bail for a better gig without paying out the nose. But if ALL the schools vote to dissolve the conference, the Grant of Rights is dissolved and they can all go their separate ways.That's the part.i am not understanding. The deal is for media rights to each school for the nextv13 years. If it were as simple as dissolving the conference and walking into a much better deal with zero obligations from the original it's pretty dumb it hasn't taken done already.
My understanding is the same.That is my understanding as well. If a majority of schools decide to leave, that would void the GOR, but I could be wrong.
How many less than ALL can vote to dissolve & the GORs still go away? I think that's the hanging question.The Grant of Right prevents any one school from leaving the others behind. FSU can't just bail for a better gig without paying out the nose. But if ALL the schools vote to dissolve the conference, the Grant of Rights is dissolved and they can all go their separate ways.
How many less than ALL can vote to dissolve & the GORs still go away? I think that's the hanging question.
Supposedly only 8, but with nowhere to go, only Clemson and FSU have been hardcore about it.
8 of 15 would be a simple majority now, but with expansion to 18 teams they'd need 10 to dissolve.I think it's just a majority that has to vote to dissolve it.
I believe dissolving the conference takes 3/4 of the teams.
There are a lot of teams that don’t have anywhere to go: Duke, GT, Wake, BC, Syracuse. I can’t imagine the Big12 would take more than a few. Then if you bring in Cal, Stanford, Smu they have no where to go too. Don’t know the contracts of the new Big 12 media deal to know if things increase if new teams join, but usually new teams are on reduced shares.
The Grant of Right prevents any one school from leaving the others behind. FSU can't just bail for a better gig without paying out the nose. But if ALL the schools vote to dissolve the conference, the Grant of Rights is dissolved and they can all go their separate ways.
Because the liabilities we're talking about are to each other, and they can all mutually agree to absolve each other of them.According to who are what? I can dissolve my marriage and my liabilities all disappear. But you could be correct, like are, but I just don't understand they can walk away from a multibillion liability over their heads.
ESPN might be happy to get off the sinking ship.Dissolving the conference would dissolve the contract they have with ESPN where they signed their Grant of Right away until 2036. An organization can’t vote to dissolve itself to get out of a contract. They would pay ESPN out the ass for the next decade plus.
If so I suppose fsu and Clemson incoming to sec.
You are one of the best posters on this board, but I have disagree with you on this. If the ACC breaks up, there is no way the SEC and ESPN let Clemson and FSU march off into the BIG.Doubtful.
Because the liabilities we're talking about are to each other, and they can all mutually agree to absolve each other of them.