Some fans don’t know the significance of 6-9 really bad calls. There’s also the wtf factor. UofK guys are like wtf am I supposed to do to play D or rebound without being called for a bs foul.
22 calls from one ref all against UK?
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I always fear that the refs try to "even out" things to take away our homecourt advantage in Nashille.
Bottom line, Kentucky isn't liked as it is, but add in Calipari and we are absolutely hated. I want Cal to move on for that very fact.
It's nothing but sports entertainment anymore. WWE with a ball.
That's why I just watch the games anymore and move on. That's all the time they are getting from me.
wow, these fouls are 80% bogus/ didn't need to be called or actually not even fouls at all, Reeves was definitely targeted, seems like the fix was in to me now.
I would be too, it’s gotta be old. I will say that he does get absolutely hosed a lot.
We need to do it to Poole as well and any of these other crooks.
I have called a few games in my time, and I have coached for over 25 years as well. But that has nothing to do with actually looking at the stats and making a comparison.
Original post said 22 "whistles" against UK, not fouls. So the other 9 times may've been possession type deals?
The only one that was a foul was the 3rd one, but even that one was the type of foul that A/M players were allowed ALL NIGHT LONG with no whistle. Damn, why I'd watch those, I'm f'ing steamed all over again!
Why do you keep chastising the entire UK fanbase for something a handful of ANONYMOUS fans did 7 years ago????
You sound like a referee holding a grudge against players who weren't even playing then, and fans who were in no way involved in that incident.
Talk about stereotyping an entire fanbase because of a few miscreants that claim to be UK fans.
Cal is the one constant who continues to get abused by officials from every conference.
Surely you don't think that's the fans fault. If so, that is pure nonsense.
You mean like the tipped ball in the backcourt that happened right in front of him that he called A&M ball? He was overruled on that one and the correct call was made but he tried for sure. He also called the ball off Dilly when his defender was beat and did the infamous back tap from behind. That never goes to the defense but guess what 🙄
Orlandis Poole was suspected of being corrupt during his time in the NBA. When Donaghy got scooped up by the FBI it was suspected that Poole was in on the action with him but the they either couldn't prove it or didn't want to pursue it. Donaghy might not have rolled either.
snippet from a blog as reported by the NY Daily News:
Federal authorities believe the referee at the center of the betting and game-fixing probe rocking the NBA will cooperate with investigators - and possibly name other officials or players involved in the scandal, law enforcement sources told The News.
Donaghy ranked third among the NBA’s 60 refs last year for calling the most games where the final score topped the projected over/under line. Home teams also had a dismal 30-41-3 record against the point spread in games he officiated. So, two other refs (Jim Clarke and Orlandis Poole) ranked higher than Donaghy in games that covered the points spread. Are they being investigated?
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Poole was canned not long after. I suspect his dismissal was part of the non pursuit.
He is also hated by many other fan bases and has been the subject of many questionable games in the past few years, including that game was MSU shot like fifty free throws vs Arkansas's twelve a couple years back. There is little doubt the guy is dirty but until refs are held accountable by the NCAA nothing will ever be done about it.
snippet from a blog as reported by the NY Daily News:
Federal authorities believe the referee at the center of the betting and game-fixing probe rocking the NBA will cooperate with investigators - and possibly name other officials or players involved in the scandal, law enforcement sources told The News.
Donaghy ranked third among the NBA’s 60 refs last year for calling the most games where the final score topped the projected over/under line. Home teams also had a dismal 30-41-3 record against the point spread in games he officiated. So, two other refs (Jim Clarke and Orlandis Poole) ranked higher than Donaghy in games that covered the points spread. Are they being investigated?
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Poole was canned not long after. I suspect his dismissal was part of the non pursuit.
He is also hated by many other fan bases and has been the subject of many questionable games in the past few years, including that game was MSU shot like fifty free throws vs Arkansas's twelve a couple years back. There is little doubt the guy is dirty but until refs are held accountable by the NCAA nothing will ever be done about it.
I’d say the undercut on the rebound was also one. Cant keep backing up under someone when they have left their feet there. I didn’t like the call but appeared to be correct (imo anyway) after review. Take away any of the other two though and he isn’t in foul Trouble. #4 was just a really bad call.
Bingo.
Winner, winner. Chicken dinner.
If you heard the SEC commissioner on Finebaum, you know how adamant he was about getting another team in the tournament than what was being projected.
Basically said that they had to get at least one more team in the tournament.
Because it literally made the news lol. I don't think you understand the type of damage that can do, even if it was just a handful of fans. Higgins told his story to all of his constituents, and he probably didn't even need to. They saw it all unfold. And none of them could have been happy to see it.
Once again, it's silly to think that a coach yelling at officials caused some huge hit to the program (when ALL coaches do this), but fans threatening an officials business and livelihood has absolutely NO ramifications (Something NO FANS have EVER done, to my knowledge).
Surely, you understand one of these happens every single day in college basketball, and the other has only happened once.. right?
It's called "Poolaree". He took a crap in my filter once.
Not here. But a few years back i read about a group of soccer fans in Brazil hunting down and beheading a referee after a game.
Different world
Lol. How old are you???
I have played in games where the officials literally got their @$$es beat over bad calls.
Officials have been threatened since the beginning of time.
I would venture to say there are not a 100 people who even remember that incident. Most never even heard of it happening.
Your boy, however, reminds the officials every game as to why they have to show him over and over again that they hate being shown up, especially when they have the final word. Or tweet tweet.
But just keep blaming the fans and the players. You sound just like Cal.
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Actually, let me adjust what I'm trying to say:
I'm not saying the Higgins incident definitely caused officials to take a grudge against us.
Just that, if you think that Cal hammering officials DID cause them to rally against him, then that same notion can be applied to the Higgins incident. I don't know if EITHER really affected us (I really have no idea, and no one else does).. but you can't be close minded to think one of these was bad (Cal), and the other was no issue (Higgins).
I'm not saying the Higgins incident definitely caused officials to take a grudge against us.
Just that, if you think that Cal hammering officials DID cause them to rally against him, then that same notion can be applied to the Higgins incident. I don't know if EITHER really affected us (I really have no idea, and no one else does).. but you can't be close minded to think one of these was bad (Cal), and the other was no issue (Higgins).
Add in that Sows was the lead/another official, and you know the crew won't overturn a bad call
I'll stop you on the first line.
If fans do it, and the officials don't care, then I'm not concerned about a coach who does it, especially when every other coach does it (Many, like K and Hurley, even worse than Cal).
I think the money factor is more influential than Cal. Plenty of coaches yell at refs, many way more than Cal (Coach K has been known and seen f-bombing and "moron" and "blind" more times than I can count).
This is a situation of Kentucky being a big gambling team - lots of people put money on Kentucky, and Vegas wants to make sure they have the control over the game with injected manipulators.
And in the SECT, especially this year, we have two teams that needed to win against UT and UK to get into the NCAAT, and they did just that. The SEC will do whatever it takes to get those extra teams in just for the payday they get per game (someone earlier said they get $2m per team, per game in the NCAAT).
Money is more of a factor than disdain or a coach.
But by whom? Have you been reading about our investigative and judicial system lately?
Imagine thinking refs listen to coaches berate them all day long, but they only go after Cal for it lolol.
The 2nd one to the top right was Shows falling for #23's flail/flop, which he did again in the 4th lower right, which was Poole. 3/4 of those were Poole.
I covered a Bellarmine home game about 10 years ago. I got to sit really close to their bench and I was amazed how much coaches go at referees. It's not just Cal. Pitino never stops either. I actually think they get five to 10 fouls called their way every half because the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
"I'll stop you on the first line."
What does that even mean?????
Fans getting on officials is impersonal to them and expected.
Coaches calling them out is personal to them. Fans " boo" bad calls. Coaches rip individual officials. Big difference.
And yes. I have been an official. Never got butthurt over Fans booing a bad call. And, I ALWAYS knew when I blew a call. But when a red-faced, cursing, screaming maniac gets in your face, it hits a lot different. No one wants that $hit.
How do you think Cal would react if someone got in his face every mistake he made???
It means I don't need to go any further. Read what other posters are telling you, there's nothing Cal is doing differently to officials than any other coach in D1 is doing, so trying to blame him for the calls is just.. bullshit lol.
You know, it's perfectly reasonable to loathe Cal for a truckload of things he does wrong, while actually blaming the officials for the way they call games. You don't have to blame Cal for EVERYTHING. You CAN do both. It's not hard to be critical of Cal and also address external issues that really have nothing to do with him.
@cathouse I'd be much more on board with something like "The NCAA hates the way Cal has done things" and/or "they hate who he was in the 90s and 2000s and won't get over it"... those make sense to me and are plausible. I can agree that there seems to be SOMETHING the NCAA doesn't like about Cal.
But Cal getting into officials? I don't buy it. Too many coaches do exactly what he does, and many much worse than he does.
It's something else.
But Cal getting into officials? I don't buy it. Too many coaches do exactly what he does, and many much worse than he does.
It's something else.
We got within 3 , three times I believe. The whistle kept blowing till it was 8 each time. Just a few Timely whistles can ensure a loss. Every time we made a run. It was stopped by the stripes.
Why doesn’t anyone ever believe it was Emmert is beyond me. He Despised Cal with a passion when he was at Washington for stealing Kanter and Jones from them. Emmert publicly wanted Cal and Kentucky investigated for tampering. He is then selected for NCAA president. That’s the source my friends. No doubt. His promotion is when our blue blood whistle ended. Payback is a bitch…. Signed Mark Emmert.
Watched Ohio State-Illinois. In a game that was decided by one possession, Ohio St was called for 27 fouls, Illinois 13 and Illinois had Shannon drive and run over Bruce Thornton for what would've been his 5th--but was called a block because of that and it was 6 min mark.
It was brutally one sided in officiating.
It was brutally one sided in officiating.
Reeves was not allowed to play last night by the refs. I wonder how the game goes if he got to actually play and get into a rhythm.
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