Wow, that is just absolutely awful. The ref is standing three feet away watching the play!!Look at this call from UF/Bama last night. SEC has to do something about this BS
Wow, that is just absolutely awful. The ref is standing three feet away watching the play!!Look at this call from UF/Bama last night. SEC has to do something about this BS
Correct. But proper boxing out does not begin with an elbow to the back. Radford beating reeves to the spot didn’t help there as reeves crashed down on him afterwards. Long rebound radford had zero chance to get. A no call would have been warranted there as no advantage was gained as the ball kicked long but I can’t take issue with the call there either as Reeves did in fact push him from behind. Only issue I take is A&M got away with numerous similar push offs.I see what you’re saying…but yea we will have to agree to disagree. I say once they were both engaged one can’t leave the floor and expect a foul. Boxing out is fundamental, something we struggle with, then once we do it (well imo) they call foul.
We are taking about the one on the top right of the four squares in the tweet, right?
This is kind of the problem. Having "points of emphasis" is a stupid concept in general. We have a rule set and the officials should know and attempt to call them all as written period. That is there complete job, there is no such thing as one rule we look to call more than the other.Sadly I believe refs are instructed to call a game a certain way. The only investigation needed is if they don't call the way they are wanted to
Similar play happened in Big Ten where a player tripped over his teammate's foot and they called a foul on the opposing player and he was 15 ft to the side of the player who tripped and fell. It's embarrassing.Wow, that is just absolutely awful. The ref is standing three feet away watching the play!!
Gotta be reeves was in front, not behind.You guys are talking about two different plays, I'm pretty sure.
Again. You are talking about two different fouls on Reeves..Correct. But proper boxing out does not begin with an elbow to the back. Radford beating reeves to the spot didn’t help there as reeves crashed down on him afterwards. Long rebound radford had zero chance to get. A no call would have been warranted there as no advantage was gained as the ball kicked long but I can’t take issue with the call there either as Reeves did in fact push him from behind. Only issue I take is A&M got away with numerous similar push offs.
That's not the one he is talking about.No, it was reeves 2nd foul call against radford under A&M’s basket.
Correct. But proper boxing out does not begin with an elbow to the back. Radford beating reeves to the spot didn’t help there as reeves crashed down on him afterwards. Long rebound radford had zero chance to get. A no call would have been warranted there as no advantage was gained as the ball kicked long but I can’t take issue with the call there either as Reeves did in fact push him from behind. Only issue I take is A&M got away with numerous similar push offs.
I'll stop you on the first line.
If fans do it, and the officials don't care, then I'm not concerned about a coach who does it, especially when every other coach does it (Many, like K and Hurley, even worse than Cal).
Here’s Jamie Luckie talking about “The Craft of Officiating” which includes topics such as “mirroring calls,” “hitting well known coaches like Cal” with Ts, and “giving the little guy more latitude!” Excuse me? The day a ref gloats that he’s the difference between Elon losing to Duke by 20 (in reality it was only 13!) instead of getting blown out is a sad day! JUST CALL THE GAME FAIRLY! That’s all we want!I always fear that the refs try to "even out" things to take away our homecourt advantage in Nashille.
👀😳Orlandis Poole was suspected of being corrupt during his time in the NBA. When Donaghy got scooped up by the FBI it was suspected that Poole was in on the action with him but the they either couldn't prove it or didn't want to pursue it. Donaghy might not have rolled either.
snippet from a blog as reported by the NY Daily News:
“Federal authorities believe the referee at the center of the betting and game-fixing probe rocking the NBA will cooperate with investigators - and possibly name other officials or players involved in the scandal, law enforcement sources told The News.
Donaghy ranked third among the NBA’s 60 refs last year for calling the most games where the final score topped the projected over/under line. Home teams also had a dismal 30-41-3 record against the point spread in games he officiated. So, two other refs (Jim Clarke and Orlandis Poole) ranked higher than Donaghy in games that covered the points spread. Are they being investigated?”
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If I told you that the SEC was the one who told the refs to make those calls would you believe it. I do. Everything is now about money, and the more teams the SEC gets into the tourney the more money they receive in "units".Look at this call from UF/Bama last night. SEC has to do something about this BS
Yes, it is true. The only 2 games this season that Reeves fouled out were officiated by Olandis Poole.
It is also true that Poole officiated our March 10, 2023 loss to Vanderbilt, the only game that season where Reeves fouled out.
All three were losses for UK. What are the odds?
2023-2024
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/Games/20240315TexasAM.html
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/Games/20231202UNCWilmington.html
2022-2023
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/20230310Vanderbilt.html
Antonio Reeves’ Stats
Olandis Poole’s record with UK
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Officials/Olandis_Poole.html
I am curious what the random chances would be that a player, in this case Reeves, would only foul out under ONE referee? And every time said player fouled out, the team would lose?This guy should definitely be investigated.
Yeah, it's too unusual to just be a coincidence. And he called some terrible fouls against Reeves. He took him out of the first half early and then called the 3rd right after the 2nd half started. It's probably the fewest minutes Reeves has played this season, or very close to it. If the fouls were obvious, we couldn't say much, but they weren't obvious, not even close.I am curious what the random chances would be that a player, in this case Reeves, would only foul out under ONE referee? And every time said player fouled out, the team would lose?
Absolutely believe this. Think it goes on across the sport too.If I told you that the SEC was the one who told the refs to make those calls would you believe it. I do. Everything is now about money, and the more teams the SEC gets into the tourney the more money they receive in "units".
This explains it fairly well.
March Madness 2023: Eliminated Early, SEC Nabs Tournament-High $34 Million
March Madness unit payouts will deliver tournament-high $34 million to SEC. The Big 12 ($32 million) is next, followed by the Big East ($30 million).www.sportico.com
It turns out the SEC tournament is not only useless but it's actually harmful for the top seeds.
You are correct. At 18 minutes, this was the fewest minutes Reeves has played this season.…It's probably the fewest minutes Reeves has played this season, or very close to it. If the fouls were obvious, we couldn't say much, but they weren't obvious, not even close.
Bad defense cost us the game... that POS just insured that it happened imoYeah, it's too unusual to just be a coincidence. And he called some terrible fouls against Reeves. He took him out of the first half early and then called the 3rd right after the 2nd half started. It's probably the fewest minutes Reeves has played this season, or very close to it. If the fouls were obvious, we couldn't say much, but they weren't obvious, not even close.
Bad defense cost us the game... that POS just insured that it happened imo
And now that it is so easily accessible to place a bet it's only going to get worse.Sports gambling is ruining all sports. You will never convince me that refs don’t manipulate games to align with their anonymous gambling. Or are paid under the table for influencing the game to go a certain way (Vegas). Or paid bonuses by the SEC to influence games to get bubble teams into the dance.
So you’re saying the league fixes the games to get a couple bubble teams in. Then they are going to investigate themselves and find themselves guilty. OK.Poole going after Reeves was obvious when you look at the fouls. Will Cal send those calls into the office for review? Poole should not get away with this cheating bias job. Bad enough to do a kid like that but to be involved in the outcome of the game brings a lot of people into play. Would be a perfect time to make a ref an example for being a rogue ref.
I’ve said for years that I think the conferences/NCAA (aka the ones signing the checks) are handing down directives.The design is no accountability. That couldn’t go anything but wrong - if your goal is a fair and honest outcome.
Until this is looked into further, it would not be wise for Poole to officiate any more UK games, especially the upcoming NCAA Tournament. Fans probably need to be vocal (respectfully, of course), calling in to sports shows with these concerns and bringing it to the attention of media personalities who are in a position to do something about it to raise awareness (some likely won’t touch it due to past litigation with Higgins). If we stick to the facts rather than allegations of motivation, we are more likely to get somewhere.
The facts are that Antonio Reeves has only fouled out 3 times, and Olandis Poole officiated each of those 3 games, all of which we lost. All 3 likely would have had a different outcome had he not fouled out or been in foul trouble. We want to know if there’s more to this story.
I am saying that for some reason Poole is anti UK. A ref doesn't have a history with us like him if something isn't up. A ref doesn't go after a teams best player like he did without a reason.So you’re saying the league fixes the games to get a couple bubble teams in. Then they are going to investigate themselves and find themselves guilty. OK.
It’s the third time. Reeves has only fouled out 3 games at Ky. All three he was on the crew. One last year, two this. The bad loss uncw was his. Wonder what the payoff was for a straight up win on that game. Favored by 18 I think.I am saying that for some reason Poole is anti UK. A ref doesn't have a history with us like him if something isn't up. A ref doesn't go after a teams best player like he did without a reason.
Yes, it is true. The only 2 games this season that Reeves fouled out were officiated by Olandis Poole.
It is also true that Poole officiated our March 10, 2023 loss to Vanderbilt, the only game that season where Reeves fouled out.
All three were losses for UK. What are the odds?
2023-2024
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/Games/20240315TexasAM.html
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/statistics/Games/20231202UNCWilmington.html
2022-2023
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Games/20230310Vanderbilt.html
Antonio Reeves’ Stats
Olandis Poole’s record with UK
http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/Officials/Olandis_Poole.html
It’s the third time. Reeves has only fouled out 3 games at Ky. All three he was on the crew. One last year, two this. The bad loss uncw was his. Wonder what the payoff was for a straight up win on that game. Favored by 18 I think.