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Did Darrell Arthur even have a high school degree while playing on your National championship team? Jayhawks throwing stones is good stuff.
See if Oklahoma would have won these guys would be at the phog crying. Now they are here gloating. John Higgins is a KU employee.
It's ok. They won. Let them gloat lol.
It was a big win..........a regular season big win tho lol
It was a big win..........a regular season big win tho lol
HILIARIOUS to me for people to say that KU has the refs in their back pocket.
In high profile games in recent years it seems like the refs ALWAYS have the other team shooting like 6 TIMES the number of FTs and suddenly ONE CALL won't go that team's way - AND THEY"LL STILL CRY and WHINE - "oh, KU gets all the calls"....doesn't matter if it's OU at home who had 15-1 FTAs in the first half & 22-6 by the end of the game or Iowa State - NOTORIOUS for getting away with so many fouls inside at Hilton, it's ridiculous!!! They'll be up 29 Fouls - 2 and yet STILL have the audacity to complain!
The truth of the matter is KU had a few calls that perhaps went their way in the overtime, OU had far more that quite honestly were more flat out obviously wrong & resulted in 5 point swings - not the difference of just a possession.
By the end of the game, all things considered the bad reffing had more or less evened itself out.
***AGAIN - HILARIOUS!!!! AT LEAST TWO OF THOSE FIVE were forced on OU with the time left and situation they were in. Geesh!!
You are engaging in extreme hyperbole dude. "Always shooting 6 times more FTs than KU". Yeah, ok.
***Yeah, 'cause it would've been SOOOOOO much better if it just ended in regulation with OU w/ a 22-6 FTA edge, Latting scraping Mason's face off w/ no foul called and then winning it for OU at the line.....yeah, that would've played well and wouldn't've felt like KU getting cheated. He makes that FT and that's EXACTLY what would've happened.
***Sorry, but if you had to deal with the Iowa State extremists of recent years, your blood would be boiling too.
They always and I mean ALWAYS make that claim - "KU ALWAYS gets the calls", "They LEAD the nation, or at least the conference in FTAs", "Or they at least lead in FTAs at home", etc, etc.
Yet, you go and show them facts such as KU was toward the bottom 3 in both of those categories in the conference and they ignore the facts.
****Ok, if that 3 foot rule, is an actual rule, I agree with others - I really don't think that's a rule or a teammate could ALWAYS get in front of the defender for them to just hand it off to!!!
And on that replay, many of you claimed that Mason hacked Hield and it was pretty frickin' obvious that he did NOT!!!!
I see Kansas fans have finally surfaced after that thrashing they got last year. Untie that noose from around your necks, did yah?
***I think KU will beat Texas Tech for one main reason........bench players will get more run and be anxious to prove that they should get mins.
Having said that I FULL EXPECT a KU loss to WVU in Morgantown....They've lost there like 2 of the last 3 or even 3 of the last 4 years.
He didn't. But he did step out of bounds and was the first to touch the ball. Should have stayed with OU.
***O.k., so no questionable NON-Calls on OU?!?!?! Lattin with the scrape across Mason's face on his last drive in regulation? Lattin basically raping Selden on his breakaway dunk? Woodard with the elbow on the blow-by to Graham's jaw?
I mean, I'm sorry, but these are OBVIOUS calls to make there wherein the refs ALSO swallowed their whistles for OU.
***Only actually cost them 1 in an "and one"...they still got 2 FTs they made on that same play.
No intentional offense but are you related to Tickle Me Elmo? (Those who frequent this board will know who that is.) You seem to be using the scatter or shot gun blast post affect...
1. Are you actually acting like the KU home boards don't have a ref complaint thread (or five) after every single loss?
2. What kind of silly insult is the derogatory use of "lining his pockets"? Because Self works pro bono? Aww gee, poor Bill, he's only the 4th highest paid coach in the country making money off of amateurs (a system that Cal is by far the loudest in protesting against - fighting for stipends and insurance for kids at every school, non stop bashing the NCAA in public over it).
3. Since you're firing all guns a blazing, then you should feel bold enough to give us a quick synopsis on a reasonable scenario where the risk would be worth the reward for Cal to be involved with Marcus Camby hooking up with an agent as a junior.
Do that successfully and I will throw out all my UK gear and start chanting Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk.
I'll wait. Until the day you die.
In the meantime, it was probably the greatest game of the year, you got your win. No one here, or anywhere else, is going to believe you got robbed in any way. The biggest part of the game that'c circulating? Mason trying to grab Hields junk on the inbounds. Cry elsewhere.
**LMAO - the ONLY time he crosses the line is JUST after his last jump when he actually deflected the ball!!! I would think that it would be allowed then.
And I'm missing these phantom slapping of the ball or even touching Buddy whatsoever that you all are seeing - at least on this particular play anyway.
***THANK YOU!!!! Kind of how I feel.....things pretty much will tend to even themselves out and I think that by the end of that game it would've been hard for either team to have blamed the refs......now if it ended at the end of regulation w/ a Lattin-made FT on the other hand? That might've been a different story...Lattin gets to scrape Mason on the face on his drive, but then gets the opportunity to win it on an over the back w/ 2 secs. left?! THAT I would've had more of a problem with if that was how it summarily wrapped up.
I think I FINALLY understand what you're saying....you're saying he can't have gone out of bounds and then come back in and obtain possession without someone else first at least touching the ball, correct?
If that's what you're saying, then I get it and agree with you...wouldn't that just have given OU the ball back out of bounds again though?
**Eh, most of the rest are pretty good too......just two definite very bad teams this year in OSU & TCU. OSU would've been better had they not lost P. Forte for the year.
No, they couldn't say that. The Big 12 has been better in the computer ratings for ages. Including Sagarin's all-time ranking. It's not a blip, it's not a short term trend, and it's not debateable numerically.
Last year, the Big 12 was +5 better on average than the SEC per Sagarin. (Which correlates 95% to Vegas lines, so we know it's a good proxy). But when you took out Kentucky, that jumped to +7.
Since Kentucky cannot play itself, we can therefore conclude mathematically that your conf slate last year was on average 7 points worse per game. That is not conjecture. That is math.
I'd agree that the Big 12 is better than the SEC by a fair margin. But I also wouldn't take too much from that when debating UK vs KU themselves because, well.. we've had plenty of opportunities to do a more direct comparison, and UK has acquitted themselves fairly well, to say the least.
Did you know in the current Sagarin rankings Louisville is ranked 5th and Kentucky is ranked 17th? That is not conjecture, that is math.
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I'm not debating Big 12 vs SEC with that. I was commenting moreso Big 12 vs other conferences. I think everyone knows the SEC has been weak for some time now.
Not getting any PT will cause that.. Self is just trying to ensure they both come back next year.. I'd laugh my ass off if they both declared anyway, , lol.. Because they'll not get any top recruits for next year sitting them for two years in a row now..
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