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“Don’t leave Kentucky or they will all hate you”

...yeah that's stupid and you will get hate on social media. this group is where orton, diallo, vanderbilt, skal register.

Whitney's in a group lower than those guys (alongside Ryan Harrow). They at least stuck out a full season.

And those four all began the next season on an NBA roster, whereas I'm not sure if Whitney can even make a G-League roster.
 
Any grown ass man that calls himself Dragon should not be taken seriously. He is a quitter and loser who quit on his team mid-season. He never listened to his coaches and kept throwing up bricks so he could showcase his "skills." He's below Daniel Orton in my book. Btw, if the HS rankings had to be redone he would not be top 150 even with his athleticism because he has zero skills. You have to be able to dribble and make shots in college basketball and somewhat understand the game. He possesses none of those.
 
Well yeah, we’re Kentucky fans. We’re not individual(s) fans generally unless they help and appreciate the university a lot of people have loved/followed/attended before he was born. He’s done neither.
 
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Whitney's in a group lower than those guys (alongside Ryan Harrow). They at least stuck out a full season.

And those four all began the next season on an NBA roster, whereas I'm not sure if Whitney can even make a G-League roster.
Harrow had the excuse of his dad being sick. I have no hard feelings for him, anyways that team was a mess from top to bottom minus Noel.
 
The Ole nba will really love that mouth as if his play wasn't bad enough. (caveat- IF it is as reported. I didn't read or look up anything.) IF so has that Kapernik feel without the presumed talent....

Run that mouth boy or type those posts... (whatever floats your boat...)
 
Khalil keeps forgetting one important part of how fans react to a player leaving before he is ready. We feel like EJ is making a mistake, but he stuck out the year, and kept giving 100% on the floor. He also supported his team mates. Khalil quit on the coaches, the fans, his team mates, and most importantly, himself, right in the middle of the season. Big, big difference, and if he can't see this, then no wonder he thinks he can play in the NBA without developing skills.
 
I don't hate KW. I think he was over-rated and not very skilled as a basketball player. I think he came to UK and things didn't play out as he (nor UK) expected. He decided it was best to part ways. I don't particularly like that he quit mid-season, but even so I don't hate the kid or really even dislike him.

Many, many, many players have left UK early and we still love them. The list is long: Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Fox, Monk, AD, Knight, Jones, Ulis, Noel, etc, etc, etc
 
Whitney is 100% correct in his case, although “hate” is over the top. I don’t know anyone who respects someone who quits their friends and teammates in mid battle. I am sure EJ knows the difference.

Hate is a very strong word. I don’t “hate” any of the guys that choose to leave here. I think the correct word is disappointment. What Whitney did destroyed his image as “The Dragon” ever how large he thought that was. He gave up, he tapped out, he got bad advice, I don’t know how he presented it but he should have weathered the storm and stayed. Or he should have just went overseas and played a year like some of the others. So I think you can chalk up his message to EJ as youthful ignorance. People aren’t going to love or hate EJ whatever he does. We may not have been the right fit for either of these guys. Just move on and live your life.
 
I was watching the live IG last night. I clicked on it to see if there would be any news. I saw the KW post. EJ said “K Whit, why you say that?” He was laughing. He kept saying “I’m not going anywhere, I’m still in class.” You couldn’t read anything into the live session. 19 out of 20 comments were positive and hoping for EJ to return.

KJ can look at the autograph sessions that the players do after turning pro and see if BBN hates all players that leave.

I didn’t hate KW when he quit. Most of us felt sorry for him. However, when you bash UK basketball, Calipari or the BBN, all bets are off.
 
It’s a shame none of these kids get to see how much Kentucky fans actually love them if they stay 3 or 4 years. Look at Miller/Hawkins (I know they’re KY boys too but still). It’s pretty simple imo. We love the ones who stay and improve and the ones who are awesome and ready to leave. We don’t care much for the ones who bolt out of here when they’re nowhere near ready.
It’s their life. Period. They don’t play to make you happy
 
Guys can say any/everything they want. Doesn't make them right/wrong. Their actions show far more and that's what so many players today are lost about. If you quit and pack it up in middle of a season with no plan......well you can't be upset if someone calls you a quitter. It's best to be yourself, not create a marketing devised plan of a nickname and that was awkward as hell to watch. If you have to create something, it's not genuine and you'll fail 100% of the time. If you want to be a good college player, let alone a Pro athlete and invest limited time in your development, don't expect to reach your goal. That is reality.

EJ, I'm in minority here, but I could care less what he decides. I've seen enough for the past 6 years to not expect any major growth. He is what he is and time runs out on "potential" and production/results matter far more. If he comes back, fine. If he leaves, he is easiest guy to replace of the starters. The question for him no matter what he decides, when is basketball going to be the #1 priority for him? Until that is case, he'll be what he's been, which is a vastly overrated guy who people see what he could be and not what he does.
 
Reality will hit KW soon enough. It will not be pleasant, and I hope that he can carve out a role in the G-League or overseas. At present time, I fear he will join the list of "woulda coulda shoulda" beens that have passed through college basketball. I know his father deserves a lot of the blame, but the next 2-3 years are going to be rough for him. As many have described, he has a long ways to go in terms of becoming a mediocre basketball player, much less an NBA player. I never bet against anyone with that type of athleticism, but that's literally all he's got right now.
 
So you are going to compete against and try to take a JOB away from GROWN-ASSED MEN and you are worried about what fans where you used to play are saying?

Somebody needs to grow up.
 
These pampered sports demigods want it both ways.

They want the 30,000 twitter followers that come with being a UK commit -- and all the accolades and praise -- but when it goes South, they don't want the critique.

If you're on social media, you're going to have both the praise and the criticism. Don't like the latter? Then get off social media.
 
You know EJ has spent two years here and has by all accounts been a good teammate and put forth effort. I don't think he is ready, Cal probably doesn't and most of BBN likely doesn't, nor do NBA teams/scouts.

Khalil Whitney is a quitter...mid season at that. 100% selfish.

Those are two different scenarios in my book. I wouldn't go on Twitter and hound either of them but The Dragon just quit...not the same as EJ regardless of what decision he makes..

Exactly! Look, the people who hound these kids on twitter/instagram or whatever else are just pure low-lifes, I think we can all agree on that, but Whitney was bound to experience that at a different level simply because he quit on his team halfway through the season.

EJ stuck it out for two years and I think the majority of our fans will support him no matter what he does since he has been a good teammate and a good kid. Do I think he should go? No, but the fact of the matter is that if these kids can go play basketball somwhere and get paid, regardless of if it's the NBA, the G-League, or international, that's what they're going to do. College is becoming a hindrance to a lot of them now and it's unfortunately the option that makes the least amount of sense to them and to their families. It's just the reality in 2020.
 
I'm not going to pile on a young kid like Whitney. The problem there was he was getting really bad advice from people he trusted and made a very bad decision.

It's a bad look for him to play the victim though when he's the one who decided to leave in the middle of the season. If you're gonna leave, jut leave. No need to throw rocks after you've left.
 
Everybody’s favorite politician, Matt Jones, just said on his show that Khalil Whitney came on EJ Montgomery’s Instagram live and made this comment. What do you make of it?

I think it means EJ is 100% gone and also speaks volumes of how awful and negative social media is.

Complete non issue. He wasn't coming back anyway. EJ just isn't a big loss, unless you want to count lost potential. Not saying it wouldn't be better to keep him, but we won't lose much either.
 
Khalil Whitney? Never heard of her.:D

But seriously though, EJ can make his own decision and I’m sure the wide majority of the fan base will stand by it whether they agree with it or not. As for Whitney, well I’m just going to say this in my best Stephen A. Smith voice

“THIS MAN IS A BONAFIDE SCRUB...”
 
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its not about if you leave or not. its about if you are good or not. twins, diallo, ej, nick, etc...fans have crushed these kids over the years. fans were relentless on nick for 2 years, then he was good and they love him. of course fans think its just criticism but a portion of it isnt. and the volume and velocity of it is difficult at times. and if you are going to have to deal with that crap, you might as well get paid for it

Show up during a loss where Nick is underperforming and you will get the above. It is like if you yell at your spouse enough, don’t give them positive reinforcement about anything, then wonder why they left you.

Some fans can be major a-holes. Well, real fans. I don’t count the fake ones.
 
Everybody’s favorite politician, Matt Jones, just said on his show that Khalil Whitney came on EJ Montgomery’s Instagram live and made this comment. What do you make of it?

I think it means EJ is 100% gone and also speaks volumes of how awful and negative social media is.
Can't say that the two are anyway similar at all. E.J. spent two years here has never caused a problem etc and is hoping to play in the NBA, now is his decision to go and stay in the draft if he makes it a sound one probably not but it is his to make, Khalil just flat out quit on the team in the middle of the year, he and his family said some stuff that sound not have been said. At least I think E.J. may have a slim chance of getting drafted, Khalil I think would have a hard time seeing playing time in the G League.
 
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Then tell every player to go to the g league.... Boston and Clarke and the others dont need UK.. go chase your dreams right now kids. We dont need to field a team..... what matters is the kids chasing their dreams whether they are ready or not. the real wrong is us fielding a team in the first place since we're holding these kids from their dreams. bad UK... bad
 
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This is why we are laughed at by other fan bases
So tell me....what fan base in America embraces former players that quit the team over halfway into a season and then take to social media to bash their former team's fans for holding them accountable for being a quitter?
I'm sure NBA fans will go much easier on the Dragon when he quits mid season and trashes their fans too. Give me a break.
 
These pampered sports demigods want it both ways.

They want the 30,000 twitter followers that come with being a UK commit -- and all the accolades and praise -- but when it goes South, they don't want the critique.

If you're on social media, you're going to have both the praise and the criticism. Don't like the latter? Then get off social media.

This is definitely true. I’m in the camp of people consistently saying “please don’t attack the student athletes,” but that’s also not the whole picture.

The athletes and some of their outspoken defenders on the sports networks get very sensitive about fan reactions and criticisms but completely ignore the extent of the athlete’s social media presence. These guys are building a brand and a public persona, and they want the fans to retweet their stuff, vote in polls, and generally follow their every move. But when the fan (who may well have spent half his disposable income for the year following his favorite team and buying their merchandise) wants to talk back, suddenly it’s inappropriate.

Being a public figure is a double-edged sword; it’s why our best and brightest usually don’t get into politics. They don’t want to live in a fishbowl. So these athletes just need to be honest about what they want, and try to be more mature about taking the good with the bad.
 
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