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You left out the 2 Helms banners hanging in the top of the barn. Powerful stuff right there.
Tyler Ulis vs. Frank Mason
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He might be 5'10". He is a little taller than me but I don't thing he is 6 foot. He's pretty jacked, I hope he turns out like Drew Bledsoe since they are a similar size.
Yes those bread wrappers impose fear and gives the opposing team the munchies for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
I knew that name sounded familiar but couldn't place the name with the face. I wonder why he wants him to be like a QB? Does he play football or just fights them?
JayCatz44 nice post. Since I became a Wildcat fan UK has owned Kansas. Just a few loses under Tubby the only stumbling block! This years game will be a tough one in Laurence but defiantly winnable!
I wouldn't trust Frank Mason to bag my groceries...and if they're being honest with themselves, Kansas fans don't either.
Kansas fans crack me up. It's like Groundhog Day every year. Looking forward to you bitching out in March again. I'm sure lil Frankie will shoot 4-20 and have 6-7 TOs.
Kansas fans crack me up. It's like Groundhog Day every year. Looking forward to you bitching out in March again. I'm sure lil Frankie will shoot 4-20 and have 6-7 TOs.
I knew Willie was a football star, but now we expect Ulis to be a Super Bowl winning quarterback too?
W2B, keep your head up
W2B, keep your head up
I'll agree with one part of that. They have way more experience at losing.
Look- Kansas ON PAPER is always a terror. Kansas IN SEASON is usually great. But you just can't ignore that choke DNA running through their veins.
I agree- POTENTIALLY- the Jayhawks could really be something. Diallo, Bragg and Ellis. Svi, Green and Selden. Graham and Mason. That's a helluva Big 8 if they all reach thneir potential. BUT...
I don't trust Mason. Sometimes he's great. Sometimes he's a train without an engine.
I don't trust Ellis. He's soft and can disappear on you.
I love Diallo...but I also loved Alexander at this point. Same strengths and weaknesses. Should we really count on him to be great?
You could talk me into KU preseason #1 pretty easily. I could easily see another flameout, too.
I agree- POTENTIALLY- the Jayhawks could really be something. Diallo, Bragg and Ellis. Svi, Green and Selden. Graham and Mason. That's a helluva Big 8 if they all reach thneir potential. BUT...
I don't trust Mason. Sometimes he's great. Sometimes he's a train without an engine.
I don't trust Ellis. He's soft and can disappear on you.
I love Diallo...but I also loved Alexander at this point. Same strengths and weaknesses. Should we really count on him to be great?
You could talk me into KU preseason #1 pretty easily. I could easily see another flameout, too.
I don't think there is anyone I'd take over Ulis for what UK has next year. However, this is just false. PER 48 NUMBERS...
Frank Mason - 18.1 PPG, 5.6 APG, 5.2 RPG, 2.0 SPG, .1 BPG, 44.1% FG, 42.9% 3PTFG%, 78.6 FT%
Tyler Ulis - 11.3 PG, 7.3 APG, 3.6 RPG, 2.0 SPG, .2 BPG, 40.6 FG%, 42.9 3PTFG%, .80.8 FT%
Pretty accurate, especially considering they have one guy who has any type of toughness on their roster, and he happens to be a raw freshman with limited offensive skills.
UK, UNC, Maryland and Duke will be the class of the nation. Too much talent and just enough experience on each roster to create the perfect mix. Kansas will be left behind once again.
Duke 2015-16 is probably closer to first round flameout Duke than title winning Duke.
The people on here that are scared of Duke are living in fear of what Duke 2016-17 is expected to be.
Which is fair. That team looks to be a monster. This year's team is overrated, though.
Kansas fan here. I know I'm going to get murdered on this thread by you die-hard UK fans but here it goes: I think some of the people on this thread are definitely underestimating Mason. Last season he had 21 games straight scoring 10 or more points. Mason is not a natural PG, he came to Kansas as a scoring guard, but Ulis is definitely a PG. Ulis is an amazing athlete and player and I'll be excited to see Mason and Ulis go head to head. Many Kansas fans won't admit this but we are nervous for our match up in Lawrence. I have all the respect for Kentucky and can't wait to take you on in January.
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Not getting into the Ulis vs Mason debate. Both are studs and both could get the better of one another.
About Mason, he's the one guy us Jayhawk fans trusted game to game last year. Scored double figures in 21 straight games last year and in 29 of 36 games. He's not an assist man but he does take good care of the ball and is a strong finisher. Like Ulis, if you leave him open he's going to bury the shot. Seemed to hit a bit of a wall down the stretch though probably from playing so many minutes. We expect big things this year from him.
Most of us aren't sure if we trust Ellis either. He's usually good for a double figure game but he could do so much more game to game.
Selden is the key for us. If he plays consistently like he did in Korea then we'll take that next step. If not we'll have an up and down season similar to last year.
Not sure what to expect from Diallo. Could be similar to Alexander or could be what we thought Alexander would be. With our roster I'll be happy if he gives us something similar to what Jameel McKay gave ISU this past year. Anything more will be gravy.
That would be a great matchup.I give the edge to Ulis better floor general.Mason is more a combo guard.
I think mason will score more points on worse shooting, have more turnovers and Kansas will lose. Not at all impressed with that kid. Matter of fact, trying to remember the last true guard for Kansas I HAVE been impressed with. Maybe Chalmers? The rest of them have guided Kansas to flame outs unless they had stillman white in front of them.
Willie loved the way he attacked the rim, lol.
Mason has only gotten better at Bill Self's system.
That's why so many of his players can look so good in college and then flop in the NBA. What he's teaching them is a system. Cal teaches his players basketball. And Ulis was already a hell of a ball player when he got here.
That's why so many of his players can look so good in college and then flop in the NBA. What he's teaching them is a system. Cal teaches his players basketball. And Ulis was already a hell of a ball player when he got here.
Wow. I have never seen such an exaggeration in my life. Ullis was almost a non-factor in that game (unless you count more turnovers than assists dominating):
Box Score for Ullis:
17 minutes
1-2 fgm
0-1 from three
2-2 free throws
2 rebounds
0 assists
1 steal
2 turnovers
4 fouls
It was your bigs that dominated that game and the Harrison twins from the perimeter.
How could anyone think Kansas is better than us this year??? We're the better team and we have the most talent.
I think it extremely generous to say that Mason and the entire Kansas team 'struggled' in the UK-KU game last year. Mason, Ellis Selden, Alexander, Wiggins were all 'non-factors' and were thoroughly beaten in all parts of the game. But the biggest failure was Coach Self. His game plan to drive into the shot-blocking taller UK BIGS proved disastrous. But here is the deal, last year was last year. This year's game isn't a replay of the last game. I think the both teams have great talent. The Utis vs. Mason match-up isn't even the key to the game. Mason may not even be the primary PG for most of the game. Self's High/Low offense runs best with two #1's (Mason and Graham), one Wing or #3 (Selden, Greene, Mykhailiuk) and two posts or #4's (Ellis, Diallo, Bragg, Mickelson, Traylor). The key for Kansas will be slowing down the UK BIGS and controlling the boards. The key for Kentucky is to limit scoring from the Wings without giving up the paint to the Kansas BIGS.
you have no one that equals skal and murray. no one. both are top 10 picks next year. its not close.
and since every ku fan last year said svi was the best player....you forfeit your ability to judge talent.
Equals doesn't mean greater. Also, you have zero clue if Murray is one or done. He got a major bump from one game and is riding hype (by the way, I also thought he was the best player on the floor watching that ONE game). I will take a Jr. Selden over Murray every day of the week.
Graham vs Ullis is maybe an edge to Ullis. Both have equal experience.
Mason vs Briscoe is edge to Mason on both proven college talent and experience. (Personally, not a fan of Briscoe. I think he needs to dominate the ball and looks for his too much.)
Selden vs. Murray (see above)
Ellis vs Poythress (assumes Poythress is 100%) - Push (advantage Ellis on offense, advantage Poythress on defense)
Diallo vs Skal - Push (Skal's rankings won't block shots or put points on the board)
Bench - Bragg, Traylor, Lucas, Mickelson > Lee, Willis
Bench perimeter - Svi, Greene, Vick > Mulder, Matthews both from experience and talent.
LOL. You guys are a top 5-6 team yeah, but your still not as good as us, nor do you have the talent we do. We'll have 3 top 10, or top 12 draft picks. Kansas doesn't have anyone on their team as good as Skal or Murray. And honestly, I think Briscoe's better than either one of Selden or Mason. We're better than you guys at basically every position. You guys have depth and experience yeah sure. But we do too with a bench of Mulder, Mathews, and Lee. You probably thought the same thing last year before we embarrassed you guys with that 31 point beat down.
Skal vs Diallo is not a push. Skal is offensively polished, Diallo is high energy but still raw. He may end up a great pro but this season, Skal is superior. End of discussion.
hilarious! this reminds me of last year. and the meetings before. maybe one of these days you will be right. maybe. skal is so much better than diallo its not even funny. clear cut #1 pick in the draft year..going to have people drooling over him. its not a push. the only people considering it a push...would be ku fans. which should tell you all you need to know about the assesment. uk is a clear cut better at 3 starting positions....easy.
