Zion May be forced to testify on whether he took money from Duke

[Cowtown Cat]

Welp it was finally posted on the duke board. It was, of course, posted by a UK fan. It had been absolute crickets up until that point. Of course, dumbass duke fans are attempting to sling mud regarding AD and the whole 200K horseshit. Then, the Bam 36K thing was also mentioned. Moronic duke fans and their “everyone cheats” charade they pull. Hilarious.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

Since UNC walked It is obvious that nothing will ever happen to Them or Duke.

 

[MdWIldcat55]

Hey, while we’re dreaming: He testifies that Kansas’ shoe company boosters paid him first, but then he got a better deal from Duke.

 

[RunninRichie]

Welp it was finally posted on the duke board. It was, of course, posted by a UK fan. It had been absolute crickets up until that point. Of course, dumbass duke fans are attempting to sling mud regarding AD and the whole 200K horseshit. Then, the Bam 36K thing was also mentioned. Moronic duke fans and their “everyone cheats” charade they pull. Hilarious.

hahah i debunked that Bam stuff bunch of f****** idiots did you see that one dude with the handle “dukerulesbasketball” and his avatar was the duke UK game from 2018 what other program holds onto a regular season win against UK so near and dear? that’s right indiana. Duke really rules basketball LMAO

 

[kl40504]

Say what you will about Louisville (I sure have) but at least they won a championship with their cheating.

But like everyone else here I dont believe Duke will get so much as a strongly worded letter from the NCAA.

I looked in the NCAA record books and there is no mention of Louisville winning the championship in 2013. Maybe I missed it. Could you send a link?

 

[BankerCat12]

This could be what dick Vitale was talking about on twitter yesterday that his sources said 2 major conference schools are about to get notified by the NCAA, theres been too much smoke around Williamson. Most thought Dick was talking about arizona and LSU, but that's old news

Not a chance, literally zero he's talking about Duke. Its out of Arizona, LSU and Auburn.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

hahah i debunked that Bam stuff bunch of f****** idiots did you see that one dude with the handle “dukerulesbasketball” and his avatar was the duke UK game from 2018 what other program holds onto a regular season win against UK so near and dear? that’s right indiana. Duke really rules basketball LMAO

To put things in perspective here. I watched an interview with K and his wife in 2015. They were asked what the biggest, most program defining win of his entire career was. They both said, without any hesitation, that it was the win over Kentucky in 1992.

Not ANY of his FF wins, title wins or any other win. A win over a program fresh off probation, when duke was defending champs. (This should tell everyone which program truly “moves the needle” and it isn’t duke university). A win that they wouldn’t have even got had the officiating been even. When Cawood Ledford calls out the terrible officiating in a game, you listen. He was the furthest thing from a homer that ever lived.

He said that the one official took UK completely out of the ballgame in the first half with three calls. He also said that they simply weren’t gonna call any fouls on duke. Hell, Mashburn fouled out and might’ve had one of two actual fouls. The rest were absolute phantom calls. Cawood literally commented on the horrible, one sided officiating that entire game. I was floored actually. It is what it is, though.

 

[Dore95]

This is a breach of contract case where Zion is trying to get out of his contract with his agent. The issues raised in this RFA are probably not relevant to the underlying claims, so Zion’s attorneys would maneuver to avoid answering these. That is if they even get to that point. It seems pretty obvious that serving this RFA was a shot across the bow to try to force a quick settlement. It may work because I’d imagine that Coach K and many others at Duke would very much like for Zion to settle his case (which he brought) and protect the Duke image.

 

[RunninRichie]

To put things in perspective here. I watched an interview with K and his wife in 2015. They were asked what the biggest, most program defining win of his entire career was. They both said, without any hesitation, that it was the win over Kentucky in 1992.

Not ANY of his FF wins, title wins or any other win. A win over a program fresh off probation, when duke was defending champs. (This should tell everyone which program truly “moves the needle” and it isn’t duke university). A win that they wouldn’t have even got had the officiating been even. When Cawood Ledford calls out the terrible officiating in a game, you listen. He was the furthest thing from a homer that ever lived.

He said that the one official took UK completely out of the ballgame in the first half with three calls. He also said that they simply weren’t gonna call any fouls on duke. Hell, Mashburn fouled out and might’ve had one of two actual fouls. The rest were absolute phantom calls. Cawood literally commented on the horrible, one sided officiating that entire game. I was floored actually. It is what it is, though.

Duke bandwagons and Duke casual fans think they’re the greatest program ever and they’ll go off by championships to determine program greatness and when you say U.K. is the greatest they’ll automatically pull the “half of those championships were won in the 40s and 50s” Both unc and duke fans do this, it’s pretty cute.

 

[VikingCat21]

This is a breach of contract case where Zion is trying to get out of his contract with his agent. The issues raised in this RFA are probably not relevant to the underlying claims, so Zion’s attorneys would maneuver to avoid answering these. That is if they even get to that point. It seems pretty obvious that serving this RFA was a shot across the bow to try to force a quick settlement. It may work because I’d imagine that Coach K and many others at Duke would very much like for Zion to settle his case (which he brought) and protect the Duke image.

Zion’s main claim is his original contract was illegal since he was still in college at the time (though after the bball season was over and he had declared for the draft) and was protected by NC laws about college athletes signing with sports agencies. He is being counter sued though and their claim is he was no longer an amateur athlete. I believe these questions about him receiving money from Duke are to further argue their case that he was never an “amateur” athlete.

 

[littlecreek]

Zion’s main claim is his original contract was illegal since he was still in college at the time (though after the bball season was over and he had declared for the draft) and was protected by NC laws about college athletes signing with sports agencies. He is being counter sued though and their claim is he was no longer an amateur athlete. I believe these questions about him receiving money from Duke are to further argue their case that he was never an “amateur” athlete.

I just hope that they have indisputable evidence of him receiving $ from Duke.

 

[ruppcat]

Just a little legal FYI here -- Typically, a lawyer wouldn't phrase Requests for Admissions in that manner unless he/she believes they're already in a position to be able to prove it.

A good lawyer never asks a question they don't already know the answer to.

 

[Dore95]

A good lawyer never asks a question they don't already know the answer to.

Actually that’s not true at all in discovery. But with an RFA the lawyer surely knows the answer to the questions is yes. But whether he can prove that with evidence, who knows?

 

[wildcatwelder]

Wow........I come home from my mom's to open RR and see this???!!!

Hell, we all KNOW K and Puke are dirty as hell, now maybe we can at the very least get a glimpse of the dirt on them so we can shove that shit right in their faces, just like we do with UNCHEAT.

We all know nothing will become of this, but if only a little dirt comes to light it will be proof of what we already know.

 

[North Carolina Blue Wildcat]

Can you imagine if UK did something like this? They would cancel all their programming to have twenty different talk shows blast it all over media outlets.

Daily news until we were found guilty and stripped of all our titles, Cal wouldn’t be able to leave his house without a microphone in his face...

 

[Cawood86]

Y'all realize this isn't an NCAA investigation or something right? The Duke protection doesn't exist in this arena.

This is Zion and CAA vs the former agent.

I don't think there's a word for how I would feel if this happens and it comes out how dirty the frauds in durham are.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Once Count K sneaks into the Judge’s Chambers and bites the unsuspecting “your honor” on the neck and turns him into one of his “immortals” there will be no testifying by Mr. Sneaker Blowout.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

All those benefits and no Final Four.

I'd be pissed if I was a Duke fan to see no hardware was acquired during the Zion, Tatum and Bagley era.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

At some point, K is going to look towards the future and see a tough road ahead: recruiting, NCAA changes, his age, any supposed trouble. I'm very surprised someone of that age and facing possible investigations, actually wants to continue coaching. And I think if this blows up, you might see him pack it in.

He's an egomaniac. I think he wants that 6th title, but I don't he gets it at this rate. If you can't get it done with the Tatum, Bagley, or Zion groups, it's going to be hard to win it all with the Vernon Careys and Jalen Johnsons of the world, too.

 

[zannmann]

Duke already self investigated and found nothing. Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[BlueBloodKyFan]

Also the Bagley article is very interesting read. You file bankruptcy, earn $44,000 and then can afford to live in a $750,000 home in North Carolina gated community.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Zion’s main claim is his original contract was illegal since he was still in college at the time (though after the bball season was over and he had declared for the draft) and was protected by NC laws about college athletes signing with sports agencies. He is being counter sued though and their claim is he was no longer an amateur athlete. I believe these questions about him receiving money from Duke are to further argue their case that he was never an “amateur” athlete.

And depending on the timing of these payments, the agent might well be entitled to a fee on them. Highly relevant if they play it right.

 

[RunninRichie]

@Cowtown Cat check the dUKe board

 

[rick64]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...parents-received-money-gifts-duke-nike-adidas

“According to a transcript of the call, which was read in court by defense attorney Mark Moore, Townsend told Code, "Hey, but between me and you, you know, [Anderson] asked about some stuff. You know? And I said, 'Well, we'll talk about that after you decide.'

"And then Mr. Code says: 'I know what he's asking for,'" Moore continued. "... 'He's asking for opportunities from an occupational perspective. He's asking for money in the pocket. And he's asking for housing for him and the family.'

"And they go on to talk. And Mr. Townsend says: 'So I've got to just try to work and figure out a way. Because if that's what it takes to get him for 10 months, we're going to have to do it some way.'"”

 

[Baller Cal]

Since UNC walked It is obvious that nothing will ever happen to Them or Duke.

You’re always down on UK and always thinking positive on Duke. This would crush you if Duke got in trouble.

 

[HagginHall1999]

Coach K's back just went out on him again.

 

[HagginHall1999]

 

[Smashcat]

 

[Baller Cal]

Sports Illustrated weighs in.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/10/why-zion-williamson-lawsuit-should-worry-duke

 

[catzfanjim]

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I've never seen anyone fall in slow motion like he did. I think that's what started the Duke flopping,the officials called a foul on the other team when he went down.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

The End of Ratface and Puke?

 

[drew_ukfan]

The End of Ratface and Puke?

why would it be? Do you really have faith in the NCAA to drill him or the school?

 

[Cowtown Cat]

@Cowtown Cat check the dUKe board

There’s no thread there now, because of course there isn’t! Anyway, was there something I missed? The wife and I were eating dinner.

 

[Jperry1987]

@Cowtown Cat check the dUKe board

Letting them have it werent ya, Richie? Quite comical their responses, hell they definitely didnt have a legit arguement to facts! Unfortunately the post has since been deleted!

 

[CatOfDaVille]

Dukies crying that AD took 200k to go to UK on dicks illustrated

If it's true, I'd say both UK and Davis got a pretty sweet deal.

 

[bigblue1971]

@Cowtown Cat check the dUKe board

They've already taken it down. That didn't take long...

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

A good lawyer never asks a question they don't already know the answer to.

Except for the lawyer/DA that asked the question that led to this....

 

[Cowtown Cat]

They've already taken it down. That didn't take long...

It’s right on par with that fake program. They can’t hide this one. It’s all coming to a head.

 

[CoachMikeKlein]

The Lord’s work taking place right before our eyes. GOD is good!

 

[RunninRichie]

Letting them have it werent ya, Richie? Quite comical their responses, hell they definitely didnt have a legit arguement to facts! Unfortunately the post has since been deleted!

yeah duke fans really boil my blood.