WOW !!! SUMRALL and tulane drills navy
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Sumrall is a no Brainer call. Send Stoops out and bring Sumrall in. Pay Stoops out.
Won’t happen and the timing will be off. He will be the, “what could have been” guy and we we still be Kentucky football.
Mitch too busy congratulating Stoops on a BIG win over Murray State.
This!! Smurall will be at a P4 Conference School next year IMO and it won't be UK
I'd argue if you fire a guy who has made 8 straight bowl games after one 4 and 8 or maybe 5 and 7 season if we somehow beat UL, it would make the next guy wonder what happens if he gets off to a slow start n year 1.
This is Kentucky, not a top program.
Having said all that, I'd love to have a new coach. It's gotten stale and we aren't gonna win the SEC or a national title no matter what so maybe a new blood guy lucks out and makes the playoff once in 10 years. Stoops won't do it IMO.
This is Kentucky, not a top program.
Having said all that, I'd love to have a new coach. It's gotten stale and we aren't gonna win the SEC or a national title no matter what so maybe a new blood guy lucks out and makes the playoff once in 10 years. Stoops won't do it IMO.
Sounds like the same argument and excuse you were making for cal come on get off the Titanic
This is really gonna piss me off if we miss on this dude. Anyone with half a brain can see he is gonna do big things when give a chance at a P5 gig
Never made that excuse for calipari. Basketball actually has high expectations and I was ready for cal to go years ago. Barnie was too big a wimp to do it and he hated cal. But you think he is gonna fire the guy he gets along with in the sport with low expectations?
Give me a break. I'm all for it if he does it but don't see it. It's more likely Stoops leaves on his own like cal did IMO.
My bad, they are totally the same. We have shown time and time we can compete for sec and national titles in football just like in basketball.
I’ll throw out an answer. First, some posters immediately talk about “fans settling for mediocrity” anytime football history is mentioned. This answer includes history, but it also includes logic.
UK does not have ANY history of football success in the last 75 years, except for Stoops’ success. Think about that for a second. In paper, Stoops guided us to our “golden period.”
College football has been dominated by the same 10-15 programs for the last 40 years. Someone will sneak into the list for a year, or maybe two, but they don’t last. (Ex - TCU)
Our conference (and thus our schedule) consists of 4-5 teams every year that have won a championship game in the last 25 years.
Our conference makes up about 70-75% of those programs that have dominated football in the last 25 years. Obviously, they haven’t all dominated at the same time. (Exs- Florida and Auburn).
Those are historical facts regardless of one’s fandom. Now, I do believe the NIL/transfer portal IS going to open up doors for more teams to break through glass ceilings. Teams that break through those ceilings may not be able to maintain a level of being a top program for the very reasons that helped them break through them in the first place.
I do believe UK can be one of those programs!!! But, doing it in the ACC will be much, much easier. Avoiding OSU and a couple top B10 teams will make it easier than UK.
Let’s face reality. Turing around the Florida, Aub, Tx, or UT should be much easier than UK.
I applaud Stoops for his accomplishments at UK. I honestly don’t know if he’s the man for the future. My question is not his ability but the energy needed to do everything that needs to be done to make UK better. He looks tired to me.
Come on. We can’t apply our basketball entitlement to the football program. Be realistic
No, it's reality. You and Jeff can fantasize about it but in a pro league with no salary cap where your team ranks 15th out of 16th in salary spent for mercenary players, it's a tough hill to climb.
Missing out on not hiring Sumrall this year will be like our modern day Schnellenberger. The one that got away. We'll be a year late and a dollar short, as usual. Sumrall will go to an Arkansas or other similar P4 school and we'll be scraping for scraps next year when Stoops "retires."
I probably shouldn't worry as I'm sure Mitch has his eye on the Akron Special Teams Coordinator or the Murray State bus driver.
I probably shouldn't worry as I'm sure Mitch has his eye on the Akron Special Teams Coordinator or the Murray State bus driver.
So you don’t think we can get anybody better for 9 million? And by better I’m talking winning 8-9 games a year, a consistent top 25 team, and maybe running an offense that isn’t from 1970. I’m saying we most definitely can.
I never said we couldn't. My original post is what barney is thinking. I couldn't care less if Stoops is fired. I'd rather have anyone. We aren't gonna win 8 to 9 games a year though. Sec is too tough.
I agree with you about Barney. But with the right coach we sure can win that many.
Never say never. Nobody thought Cal was gonna be gone this past basketball season either. (Not comparing Pope with Sumrall...just saying Stoops could end up gone as nobody thought Cal was gonna be)
We don’t have to pay a new guy what we’re paying Stoops now. We could get Sumrall for half that or around 5-5.5 million. He’s making under 3 million at Tulane. Pope isn’t making what we paid Cal.
Oh for sure! I’m just using 9 million because obviously we have every bit of that to give. Pay Sumrall around what Pope is making and I’m sure he’d bust the door down to come here.
And too, the guy who we are paying 9 million for isn’t doing any of those things.
Sumrall may take a new job and lead them to glory. He’s a UK guy, so I’ll always wish him well. It may work out that he’s our coach one day.
But … we can make a very long list of coaches that once were considered “no-miss, guaranteed all stars.”
Some of these “guaranteed all stars” were handed some of the most prestigious programs and still failed!
Look at the long list of coaches that have gone through just Tx, Fla, Auburn, and Tn in the last 10 years. Those 4 programs are just the tip of the iceberg that have brought in guaranteed winners.
But … we can make a very long list of coaches that once were considered “no-miss, guaranteed all stars.”
Some of these “guaranteed all stars” were handed some of the most prestigious programs and still failed!
Look at the long list of coaches that have gone through just Tx, Fla, Auburn, and Tn in the last 10 years. Those 4 programs are just the tip of the iceberg that have brought in guaranteed winners.
I’ve said it here before and I will say it again….its WIDELY known from the best coaches in the SEC that Sumrall is the best big thing to hit the league if/when it happens.
He is 32-6 and has made the conference title game all three years as a head coach. Tulane has given up 9 points in last three games.
He is 32-6 and has made the conference title game all three years as a head coach. Tulane has given up 9 points in last three games.
None of them hired a G5 Coach who had won 85 percent of his games.
And Sumrall checks a lot of boxes beyond simply being a winner.
He is a UK Alum., who, should he catch fire at UK, would be less likely to be hired away.
Sumrall can't fail any worse than Stoops is failing right now.
What are you saying? Keep the status quo rather than TRYING to improve the program with an experienced D1 WINNING head coach?
Sumrall is a WINNER.
Stoops is a LOSING HC.
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