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Wow another yr of mass exits

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I understand leaving for the millions but D league salary? Not crushing dreams just wonder who advises these kids to go when all experts say should stay. Just puzzling. Gonna be so young next yr.
 
To credit Fran Fraschilla, he mentioned on social media that with new NBA CBA, the rosters are going to be expanded to 17 for each team-so you are adding 2 more then 15 it was previously and then you add NBDL will need more players too. It's way of the NBA--Briscoe at least stayed 2 years--a kid like Kobi Simmons who will test great in every non basketball drill, is a joke leaving--he was a marginal HS player, who was a marginal role player at Arizona.
 
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Everyone has to do what they have to do but it does seem strange that UK players fall over each other trying to find a way to get out the door but players like Kennard,the kid at Texas A&M,any number of UNC kids or the kid at Purdue choose to stay around.

You have to wonder sometimes.
 
Not a one has been a surprise either, but that won't stop some from their annual whining.

Briscoe is a surprise. He isn't ready yet for the NBA and would do good returning, just like Bam. Briscoe's ego won't let him come back, though. That's not a knock on him either because I get it. It doesn't look good coming in as a one and done and potentially staying 3 years.

If he and Bam both stay with what we've hopefully got coming in, they would only help their draft status.
 
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Everyone has to do what they have to do but it does seem strange that UK players fall over each other trying to find a way to get out the door but players like Kennard,the kid at Texas A&M,any number of UNC kids or the kid at Purdue choose to stay around.

You have to wonder sometimes.

It's because we've developed this reputation as a one and done and if somehow you're here for more than a year, it's a negative
 
they do not have to go to the d-league
a lot of these kids know they can go overseas and make a very good living
even overseas most will make more in 4-5 years then the average man makes in a lifetime
Wrong.
He'll make maybe $500,000 in 4-5 years. Between taxes and the agent, he'll be left with maybe 275,000

He'll probably waste a lot of the remaining money on cars, jewelry, tattoos, partying...etc
Then what's he going to do when he's 25 and he's out of basketball and little if any money left?
 
I understand leaving for the millions but D league salary? Not crushing dreams just wonder who advises these kids to go when all experts say should stay. Just puzzling. Gonna be so young next yr.
You from Wallins in Harlan county?
 
Everyone has to do what they have to do but it does seem strange that UK players fall over each other trying to find a way to get out the door but players like Kennard,the kid at Texas A&M,any number of UNC kids or the kid at Purdue choose to stay around.

You have to wonder sometimes.

Exactly what I've thought too. I don't blame the guys like AD, Cousins, Wall, etc who are guaranteed lottery picks, but I just don't get why some of the others seem so eager to leave, even when it's fairly obvious that they'd be lucky to get picked in the 2nd round.
 
Wrong.
He'll make maybe $500,000 in 4-5 years. Between taxes and the agent, he'll be left with maybe 275,000

He'll probably waste a lot of the remaining money on cars, jewelry, tattoos, partying...etc
Then what's he going to do when he's 25 and he's out of basketball and little if any money left?

you know..you can attend school while in NBA, D-league, or any other league right? It's impossible to be 100%. However, you can focus a lot more on Basketball in the league than other way around.

where did you get 25?

ANd, you make a quick assumption about him wasting all his money...?
 
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You can actually make 3 million a year overseas while not having to pay for housing, food or transportation and some teams will pay you're taxes as well

probably can make some small local sponsorship as well.
 
Every guy that will leave, Bam,Briscoe, Fox, Monk, i thought would leave before the season. Does this truly surprise people?
Those really don't surprise me that much but people like Humphries or Gabriel do if they leave. If Bam was at some other school would it be such a surprise if he returned?
 
Scouts don't see it as a joke. Too many people look at numbers and don't realize that's only part of it. The measurements and athletic ability is more important to teams because those are things that can't be taught.

You see Miles Plumlee in the NBA? Do you even remember his numbers at Duke as a part time starter? So low it's not something to remember BUT he tested as the most athletic big ever at the combine and now he's making millions. It's a lot like the NFL combine and the 40 time

Kobi had decent freshmen numbers on a very team, he's. 6'5 pg/combo with long arms and a 41 inch vertical. You can mold that into a player. Zach Lavine was average at best but with his athletic ability the Twolves and others saw what he could be molded into and now he averages 19ppg.



To credit Fran Fraschilla, he mentioned on social media that with new NBA CBA, the rosters are going to be expanded to 17 for each team-so you are adding 2 more then 15 it was previously and then you add NBDL will need more players too. It's way of the NBA--Briscoe at least stayed 2 years--a kid like Kobi Simmons who will test great in every non basketball drill, is a joke leaving--he was a marginal HS player, who was a marginal role player at Arizona.
 
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Everyone has to do what they have to do but it does seem strange that UK players fall over each other trying to find a way to get out the door but players like Kennard,the kid at Texas A&M,any number of UNC kids or the kid at Purdue choose to stay around.

You have to wonder sometimes.
Kentucky isn't the only team having players declare. Look around the country. Kids are declaring at Arizona and other places too. Briscoe was leaving this year regardless. He wants to make money somewhere.
 
Wrong.
He'll make maybe $500,000 in 4-5 years. Between taxes and the agent, he'll be left with maybe 275,000

He'll probably waste a lot of the remaining money on cars, jewelry, tattoos, partying...etc
Then what's he going to do when he's 25 and he's out of basketball and little if any money left?

You wouldn't assume much would you? What a terrible take. Moronic
 
Briscoe didn't like school, so I would imagine keeping his grades up was a struggle, thats one reason to go. Another reason is he probably is in his prime as a college player, might improve his jump shot by staying but the rest of his skills, ball handling, rebounding and toughness are those of a senior guard so it is time for him to move on wherever that might lead. I will say I would love to see him stay as well but we all know that except for a few exceptions we will be driving a new car(whole new team) every season. So far we are doing pretty good at it.
 
Kentucky isn't the only team having players declare. Look around the country. Kids are declaring at Arizona and other places too. Briscoe was leaving this year regardless. He wants to make money somewhere.
Briscoe is not my real point here,it was clear that he wanted to go from the day he got here.Sure some players from other schools leave early but some that could don't,that doesn't seem to be an option here.
 
Wrong.
He'll make maybe $500,000 in 4-5 years. Between taxes and the agent, he'll be left with maybe 275,000

He'll probably waste a lot of the remaining money on cars, jewelry, tattoos, partying...etc
Then what's he going to do when he's 25 and he's out of basketball and little if any money left?

He can easily make $500k per season over seas for 7 or 10 years should he want to and not get hurt. Worst case in your scenario, how many people have made $250k at 25? Pretty good freaking start to adult life IMO. You don't know he'll waste any of it.
 
This is no surprise, but it's a poor decision imo. I rarely question these kids and encourage them chasing their dreams in the league but Briscoe really could've benefited from returning and developing a consistent jumper and some sort of runner/floater in the paint. Even just one of the two would've paid huge dividends towards a pro career.
 
Briscoe is not my real point here,it was clear that he wanted to go from the day he got here.Sure some players from other schools leave early but some that could don't,that doesn't seem to be an option here.
That's funny because I recall UK returning players over the years. Guys like Jones, Lamb, Cauley-Stein, Poythress, the Harrison twins, Briscoe, and more to come. All could have left early or after one year but didn't. Kids come here to get drafted. If you can't accept that then you should probably stop following UK for the time being.
 
This stuff about big money overseas is a joke .. the star of the team might make some jack But IB isnt going to a pro league anywhere in the world where is a top paid guy on team making 500K-to a mil a year. thats not reality . Someone supply some hard numbers about a pro league in europe and see what a average guy makes .. Not the stars of the league because IB isnt a star in any league . thats not hating , thats hard truth .
 
It's the double edge sword that Cal has to deal with. Cal is the king of the one and done. With that comes the stigma of if you aren't one and done or gone before your junior year, you're a failure. So Cal is in a tough spot. You look at the boarderline kids like Briscoe, and they if they stick around they know the recruiting class behind them will be stocked. Competing for minutes, getting older, and thinking your pro career is getting shorter and shorter the longer you stay. Briscoe comes in, watches Ulis start over him, watches Fox start over him and if he comes back will likely watch Green start over him.

So Cal could try and fail to convince the boarderline kids to stay and have nothing fro the following year, or go in with the expectations he's losing everyone for the following year and do his best to reload. I understand the frustrations of it, because you see all these 1st rounders coming back but it's the label UK has on them that doesn't seem to stick anywhere else in college.
 
To credit Fran Fraschilla, he mentioned on social media that with new NBA CBA, the rosters are going to be expanded to 17 for each team-so you are adding 2 more then 15 it was previously and then you add NBDL will need more players too. It's way of the NBA--Briscoe at least stayed 2 years--a kid like Kobi Simmons who will test great in every non basketball drill, is a joke leaving--he was a marginal HS player, who was a marginal role player at Arizona.
Ralph you hearing anything on recruits? Bamba of Knox? Or anything really.. 2018?
 
Wrong.
He'll make maybe $500,000 in 4-5 years. Between taxes and the agent, he'll be left with maybe 275,000

He'll probably waste a lot of the remaining money on cars, jewelry, tattoos, partying...etc
Then what's he going to do when he's 25 and he's out of basketball and little if any money left?
Always with the positive side...
 
That's funny because I recall UK returning players over the years. Guys like Jones, Lamb, Cauley-Stein, Poythress, the Harrison twins, Briscoe, and more to come. All could have left early or after one year but didn't. Kids come here to get drafted. If you can't accept that then you should probably stop following UK for the time being.
I think I'll continue to follow them if you don't mind,or even if you do mind.Why does simple conversation in the off season on a topic that many wonder about spark such a smart a$$ remark?
 
This stuff about big money overseas is a joke .. the star of the team might make some jack But IB isnt going to a pro league anywhere in the world where is a top paid guy on team making 500K-to a mil a year. thats not reality . Someone supply some hard numbers about a pro league in europe and see what a average guy makes .. Not the stars of the league because IB isnt a star in any league . thats not hating , thats hard truth .

Heres a good article on playing in Iraq. Says most players make anywhere from 4,000 to 10k. If you're smart with your money, that isn't bad pay to play basketball.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-iraq-for-20k-a-month/?utm_term=.ee21358bbe53
 
fwiw I think the d-league minimum salary is like $72,000 per year now. That is a very friendly salary for almost anyone, especially when you take into account theyre playing basketball for a living. Go overseas and you make more. Ill play basketball forever if you offer me that kinda money.
 
You see Miles Plumlee in the NBA? Do you even remember his numbers at Duke as a part time starter? So low it's not something to remember BUT he tested as the most athletic big ever at the combine and now he's making millions.

Kobi had decent freshmen numbers on a very team, he's.
A) Saying Miles Plumlee "tested as the best big ever" is hyperbolic.

B)I have no idea what you were trying to say about Kobi.
 
Wrong.
He'll make maybe $500,000 in 4-5 years. Between taxes and the agent, he'll be left with maybe 275,000

He'll probably waste a lot of the remaining money on cars, jewelry, tattoos, partying...etc
Then what's he going to do when he's 25 and he's out of basketball and little if any money left?

Wow! Stereotype much?
 
I think I'll continue to follow them if you don't mind,or even if you do mind.Why does simple conversation in the off season on a topic that many wonder about spark such a smart a$$ remark?
Like I said, UK has kids leave and has kids return. It feels like UK loses more kids to the draft because they do. UK has had more kids drafted than any other school during the Cal era by a wide margin. If they're dream is to play in the NBA and get drafted then why should they stay in college and play for free?
 
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